Josh Duggar arrested and in federal custody

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Josh’s oldest child, Mackynzie, would have been 9 when he was downloading child porn featuring kids under 12. He’d better never be left alone with his kids again.

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Anonymous wrote:He is disgusting. It does make me wonder if he experienced sexual abuse as a child. There is something so creepy about Jim Bob. I think Anna is a victim here, she doesn't know how to get herself or children out of a horrible situation.

She may be a victim but if she can’t keep her children away from a sexual abuser, then she is not a competent legal guardian.

+1 As a mother, I can't understand not having that instinct to get your kids away from something like that. It wouldn't take me half a second to run far away from someone like that if I had kids with him....regardless of any religious brainwashing. Being a mother comes first.

I mean women not fundy brainwashed women allow their children to be abused by their boyfriends and husbands every day.

seriously, there is always one Perfect Parent Karen who shows up in threads like these saying they would never allow this and they don't understand moms who do. Well duh lady. No remotely healthy functional person would ever allow this, or anything close to this, ever.

Anna's brain is not responding to the primal urge to protect her children because her brain is broken. Maybe her brain was wired wrong from birth -- it happens. Or maybe she once had the correct wiring in there, but her brain was broken by lies, fear (of abuse, of going to hell for divorce, take your pick) and a cult -- this stuff is trauma -- it actually rewrites your brain pathways. She's not behaving like you would because she's not you.

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Anonymous wrote:Another one here who is skeptical of Derrick and thinks he has hidden agendas

Regardless, Josh is evil trash

Out of curiosity, what could his agenda be?

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Anonymous wrote:He is disgusting. It does make me wonder if he experienced sexual abuse as a child. There is something so creepy about Jim Bob. I think Anna is a victim here, she doesn't know how to get herself or children out of a horrible situation.

She may be a victim but if she can’t keep her children away from a sexual abuser, then she is not a competent legal guardian.

+1 As a mother, I can't understand not having that instinct to get your kids away from something like that. It wouldn't take me half a second to run far away from someone like that if I had kids with him....regardless of any religious brainwashing. Being a mother comes first.

I mean women not fundy brainwashed women allow their children to be abused by their boyfriends and husbands every day.

seriously, there is always one Perfect Parent Karen who shows up in threads like these saying they would never allow this and they don't understand moms who do. Well duh lady. No remotely healthy functional person would ever allow this, or anything close to this, ever.

Anna's brain is not responding to the primal urge to protect her children because her brain is broken. Maybe her brain was wired wrong from birth -- it happens. Or maybe she once had the correct wiring in there, but her brain was broken by lies, fear (of abuse, of going to hell for divorce, take your pick) and a cult -- this stuff is trauma -- it actually rewrites your brain pathways. She's not behaving like you would because she's not you.

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And historically speaking, this severing of the maternal instance thanks to cultural conditioning is pretty common. Think femicide in China, Spartan mothers getting happy about their kids dying in battle and letting babies who looked weak be left out to die... I won’t go on because this is depressing.

Anyway, she should be held accountable, because cultural conditioning is a reason but not an excuse, but I wouldn’t assume that she actually could have made different choices.

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And historically speaking, this severing of the maternal instance thanks to cultural conditioning is pretty common. Think femicide in China, Spartan mothers getting happy about their kids dying in battle and letting babies who looked weak be left out to die... I won’t go on because this is depressing.

Anyway, she should be held accountable, because cultural conditioning is a reason but not an excuse, but I wouldn’t assume that she actually could have made different choices.

Accountable for what, and by whom?

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Anonymous wrote:He is disgusting. It does make me wonder if he experienced sexual abuse as a child. There is something so creepy about Jim Bob. I think Anna is a victim here, she doesn't know how to get herself or children out of a horrible situation.

She may be a victim but if she can’t keep her children away from a sexual abuser, then she is not a competent legal guardian.

+1 As a mother, I can't understand not having that instinct to get your kids away from something like that. It wouldn't take me half a second to run far away from someone like that if I had kids with him....regardless of any religious brainwashing. Being a mother comes first.

+1. It's a natural human instinct.

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You guys know Josh is the actual pervert here, right? What’s the obsession with Anna?

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Anonymous wrote:Josh’s oldest child, Mackynzie, would have been 9 when he was downloading child porn featuring kids under 12. He’d better never be left alone with his kids again.

I thought that was standard procedure When they get out of jail and are in the sex offender list?

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If he put his fingers in their vaginas however slightly, he raped them. Period.

Which he didn’t so there is no need to further derail the thread.

How do you know that? You absolutely don’t. You certainly can’t trust Josh Duggar’s accounting, and probably not the girls’ either since they are all still under the coercive influence of their parents.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys know Josh is the actual pervert here, right? What’s the obsession with Anna?

Like I said earlier, patriarchy is a hell of a drug. People in our society will always be more comfortable finding a woman to blame for a man's bad acts. She should have known, she should have stopped him, she should not have been raised in a cult to believe she was responsible for a man's bad behavior . . . waitaminute . . .

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Anonymous wrote:You guys know Josh is the actual pervert here, right? What’s the obsession with Anna?

Like I said earlier, patriarchy is a hell of a drug. People in our society will always be more comfortable finding a woman to blame for a man's bad acts. She should have known, she should have stopped him, she should not have been raised in a cult to believe she was responsible for a man's bad behavior . . . waitaminute . . .

People want to believe bad things couldn't happen to them. It's a defense mechanism.

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If he put his fingers in their vaginas however slightly, he raped them. Period.

Which he didn’t so there is no need to further derail the thread.

How do you know that? You absolutely don’t. You certainly can’t trust Josh Duggar’s accounting, and probably not the girls’ either since they are all still under the coercive influence of their parents.

WTF is wrong with you? What he did was bad enough, why do you insist on speculating and adding more, and then to accuse his victims of lying? about the abuse they experience, it just had to be worse to satisfy you. Reevaluate your life. Get some help!

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Anonymous wrote:He is disgusting. It does make me wonder if he experienced sexual abuse as a child. There is something so creepy about Jim Bob. I think Anna is a victim here, she doesn't know how to get herself or children out of a horrible situation.

She may be a victim but if she can’t keep her children away from a sexual abuser, then she is not a competent legal guardian.

+1 As a mother, I can't understand not having that instinct to get your kids away from something like that. It wouldn't take me half a second to run far away from someone like that if I had kids with him....regardless of any religious brainwashing. Being a mother comes first.

+1. It's a natural human instinct.

Yes because no mother has ever abused her child or allowed her so to abuse her child.

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+1

And historically speaking, this severing of the maternal instance thanks to cultural conditioning is pretty common. Think femicide in China, Spartan mothers getting happy about their kids dying in battle and letting babies who looked weak be left out to die... I won’t go on because this is depressing.

Anyway, she should be held accountable, because cultural conditioning is a reason but not an excuse, but I wouldn’t assume that she actually could have made different choices.

Accountable for what, and by whom?

NP here. She should be held accountable depending on what she knew or allowed if she allowed Josh to abuse their children or other children. For all we know Anna may have been helping the feds whie continuing to play fundy wife. If she's not involved in abusing the kids I sincerely hope she finally gets herself and her kids out.

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Anonymous wrote:He is disgusting. It does make me wonder if he experienced sexual abuse as a child. There is something so creepy about Jim Bob. I think Anna is a victim here, she doesn't know how to get herself or children out of a horrible situation.

She may be a victim but if she can’t keep her children away from a sexual abuser, then she is not a competent legal guardian.

This. And if she "didn't know how to get herself or children out of a horrible situation," accepting the help with doing just that offered by at least two different family members would have been an excellent start.