Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people think they need to ask permission from whoever the hell Oliva McCormick is.

The guidance has been issued by the state, “exercise” is an acceptable use of the pool, and there is no definition of exercise provided.

I am on the board at my neghiboorhood pool in Fairfax County.

We will be opening when phase II starts with limits on capacity, sign up times and disinfection between groups.

We have has removed 70% of chairs.

Lap swimming, kids jumping off the edge, adults paddling while they cool off are all exercise and therefore are all allowed.

Sorry to hear so many other pools are not doing it this way, it’s going to be a hot Summer

I totally agree. I hope our pool does the same.

[Anonymous]

These 10 foot rules and no swimming rules are overly overly rigid considering what is going on everywhere else.

[Anonymous]

We just met with our pool board and we decided the plain text of phase 2 "exercise" = all swimming. We are limiting entrance to 45 people per every 2 blocks. people must bring their own chairs.

There is no way the Va dept of health or fairfax is going to be policing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We just met with our pool board and we decided the plain text of phase 2 "exercise" = all swimming. We are limiting entrance to 45 people per every 2 blocks. people must bring their own chairs.

There is no way the Va dept of health or fairfax is going to be policing this.

Awesome! Good for you all!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We just met with our pool board and we decided the plain text of phase 2 "exercise" = all swimming. We are limiting entrance to 45 people per every 2 blocks. people must bring their own chairs.

There is no way the Va dept of health or fairfax is going to be policing this.

Agree. The VA/Fairfax health departments are swamped with coronavirus issues right now. They aren't cruising around Springfield measuring out how far apart pool tables are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people think they need to ask permission from whoever the hell Oliva McCormick is.

The guidance has been issued by the state, “exercise” is an acceptable use of the pool, and there is no definition of exercise provided.

I am on the board at my neghiboorhood pool in Fairfax County.

We will be opening when phase II starts with limits on capacity, sign up times and disinfection between groups.

We have has removed 70% of chairs.

Lap swimming, kids jumping off the edge, adults paddling while they cool off are all exercise and therefore are all allowed.

Sorry to hear so many other pools are not doing it this way, it’s going to be a hot Summer

I understand 100% and I’m not in disagreement in what you have decided. I will say that their requirement is that the exercise has to be “directed” and “controlled”. That’s the requirement. We are going to stretch that definition too, but that’s what they have stated is required. We will probably doing similar to what you are doing but are going to try to encourage the 10’ distancing. Are you reserving pool sections or allowing “free range” in the water?

It’s dumb.

[Anonymous]

The exercise is controlled by the lifeguards and parents, who will enforce our pool rules (no diving in the shallow end etc))

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Saw this in the discussion on the school board. I like their thinking!!

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I am on the pool in Fairfax and we have determined that any movement is exercise, so we will be open for any sort of activity the member chooses. (Kids splashing, adults floating, lap swimming, etc)

We will limit to 50 people, remove 50% of seating, require sign ups and disinfect between groups. ”

And they are completely violating the governor's orders. Phase 1 and 2 ONLY allow for lap lane swimming. It makes it very clear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this in the discussion on the school board. I like their thinking!!

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I am on the pool in Fairfax and we have determined that any movement is exercise, so we will be open for any sort of activity the member chooses. (Kids splashing, adults floating, lap swimming, etc)

We will limit to 50 people, remove 50% of seating, require sign ups and disinfect between groups. ”

And they are completely violating the governor's orders. Phase 1 and 2 ONLY allow for lap lane swimming. It makes it very clear.

To piggy back off of this - my concern and the pools here is that if you do not follow the rules and by some chance you become a covid outbreak center then you are negligent and liable. So allowing adults to float around or kids to play together (in the above example) you are now violating the regulations. Just follow the rules as stated and then you won't be negligent. Would suck if a pool gets sued.

[Anonymous]

^^ it isn’t even about suing. It’s about following the rules for the good of society as a whole. When people do what this bd member is doing, it’s putting many people at risk.

[Anonymous]

Our Phase 1 has gone well. We opened with 6 lanes for lap swim and one additional in a shallower pool for walking laps. 45 minute blocks are reserved with the additional 15 minutes to clean, which is plenty because there isn’t much to clean in Phase 1. Phase 2 planning is in the works. While pool decks aren’t going to be required to have a limited capacity unless there for a social group (as spectators, for a party, picnic), we will have a set number of reservations and are looking at having table groups at least 10’ apart. They will probably be more like 18’ apart. A number of tables will be reservable by those who only want to sunbathe or read for example. Those tables will be allowed to use the dive since dive areas will be able to be open. So if you are someone who likes to just jump in when you get hot, that works for you. 10’ markings on deck to separate those wanting to dive. Other tables are reserved to match lap lanes, so lap lane 6 gets table 6, lap lane 5 gets table 5, etc. We will allow three per lap lane, but will limit it to the membership (household) that has that lane. The dive is open to anybody that has a table. Overall capacity will be of course reduced by the limited number of tables available to reserve. So if we had 9 tables available every 1.5 hours that’s the cap. If a family of 5 reserved a table they can still only swim 3 in their lane at a time. The family or household unit will have to work that out. They also have to stay with their table group and maintain 10’ from others. The 10’ distancing is the tough part, but this is in the early stages of planning and we won’t move to another phase until we are sure of our plan. Our youngest, non-swimmers also lose out but again, our plan is not yet set

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our Phase 1 has gone well. We opened with 6 lanes for lap swim and one additional in a shallower pool for walking laps. 45 minute blocks are reserved with the additional 15 minutes to clean, which is plenty because there isn’t much to clean in Phase 1. Phase 2 planning is in the works. While pool decks aren’t going to be required to have a limited capacity unless there for a social group (as spectators, for a party, picnic), we will have a set number of reservations and are looking at having table groups at least 10’ apart. They will probably be more like 18’ apart. A number of tables will be reservable by those who only want to sunbathe or read for example. Those tables will be allowed to use the dive since dive areas will be able to be open. So if you are someone who likes to just jump in when you get hot, that works for you. 10’ markings on deck to separate those wanting to dive. Other tables are reserved to match lap lanes, so lap lane 6 gets table 6, lap lane 5 gets table 5, etc. We will allow three per lap lane, but will limit it to the membership (household) that has that lane. The dive is open to anybody that has a table. Overall capacity will be of course reduced by the limited number of tables available to reserve. So if we had 9 tables available every 1.5 hours that’s the cap. If a family of 5 reserved a table they can still only swim 3 in their lane at a time. The family or household unit will have to work that out. They also have to stay with their table group and maintain 10’ from others. The 10’ distancing is the tough part, but this is in the early stages of planning and we won’t move to another phase until we are sure of our plan. Our youngest, non-swimmers also lose out but again, our plan is not yet set

Interesting. Can the people in lane 5 get in to cool off and then read at their table or can you only sit on the deck near the dive area?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this in the discussion on the school board. I like their thinking!!

“
I am on the pool in Fairfax and we have determined that any movement is exercise, so we will be open for any sort of activity the member chooses. (Kids splashing, adults floating, lap swimming, etc)

We will limit to 50 people, remove 50% of seating, require sign ups and disinfect between groups. ”

And they are completely violating the governor's orders. Phase 1 and 2 ONLY allow for lap lane swimming. It makes it very clear.

To piggy back off of this - my concern and the pools here is that if you do not follow the rules and by some chance you become a covid outbreak center then you are negligent and liable. So allowing adults to float around or kids to play together (in the above example) you are now violating the regulations. Just follow the rules as stated and then you won't be negligent. Would suck if a pool gets sued.

I think that’s part of the issue. What are the chances that a neighborhood pool is going to become a covid outbreak center? How can even think of going to school if we can’t try a simple outdoor activity like swimming in the pool?

Other states are allowing swimming. Our governor is imposing ridiculous restrictions on us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our Phase 1 has gone well. We opened with 6 lanes for lap swim and one additional in a shallower pool for walking laps. 45 minute blocks are reserved with the additional 15 minutes to clean, which is plenty because there isn’t much to clean in Phase 1. Phase 2 planning is in the works. While pool decks aren’t going to be required to have a limited capacity unless there for a social group (as spectators, for a party, picnic), we will have a set number of reservations and are looking at having table groups at least 10’ apart. They will probably be more like 18’ apart. A number of tables will be reservable by those who only want to sunbathe or read for example. Those tables will be allowed to use the dive since dive areas will be able to be open. So if you are someone who likes to just jump in when you get hot, that works for you. 10’ markings on deck to separate those wanting to dive. Other tables are reserved to match lap lanes, so lap lane 6 gets table 6, lap lane 5 gets table 5, etc. We will allow three per lap lane, but will limit it to the membership (household) that has that lane. The dive is open to anybody that has a table. Overall capacity will be of course reduced by the limited number of tables available to reserve. So if we had 9 tables available every 1.5 hours that’s the cap. If a family of 5 reserved a table they can still only swim 3 in their lane at a time. The family or household unit will have to work that out. They also have to stay with their table group and maintain 10’ from others. The 10’ distancing is the tough part, but this is in the early stages of planning and we won’t move to another phase until we are sure of our plan. Our youngest, non-swimmers also lose out but again, our plan is not yet set

Interesting. Can the people in lane 5 get in to cool off and then read at their table or can you only sit on the deck near the dive area?

I think I understand what you are asking. Tables will be spread out a around the deck. Table 5 won’t necessarily be next to lane 5. If you have table 5 and go hop in and out of lane 5 I don’t foresee us admonishing that person. I guess you could swim a lap and then get out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our Phase 1 has gone well. We opened with 6 lanes for lap swim and one additional in a shallower pool for walking laps. 45 minute blocks are reserved with the additional 15 minutes to clean, which is plenty because there isn’t much to clean in Phase 1. Phase 2 planning is in the works. While pool decks aren’t going to be required to have a limited capacity unless there for a social group (as spectators, for a party, picnic), we will have a set number of reservations and are looking at having table groups at least 10’ apart. They will probably be more like 18’ apart. A number of tables will be reservable by those who only want to sunbathe or read for example. Those tables will be allowed to use the dive since dive areas will be able to be open. So if you are someone who likes to just jump in when you get hot, that works for you. 10’ markings on deck to separate those wanting to dive. Other tables are reserved to match lap lanes, so lap lane 6 gets table 6, lap lane 5 gets table 5, etc. We will allow three per lap lane, but will limit it to the membership (household) that has that lane. The dive is open to anybody that has a table. Overall capacity will be of course reduced by the limited number of tables available to reserve. So if we had 9 tables available every 1.5 hours that’s the cap. If a family of 5 reserved a table they can still only swim 3 in their lane at a time. The family or household unit will have to work that out. They also have to stay with their table group and maintain 10’ from others. The 10’ distancing is the tough part, but this is in the early stages of planning and we won’t move to another phase until we are sure of our plan. Our youngest, non-swimmers also lose out but again, our plan is not yet set

Interesting. Can the people in lane 5 get in to cool off and then read at their table or can you only sit on the deck near the dive area?

I think I understand what you are asking. Tables will be spread out a around the deck. Table 5 won’t necessarily be next to lane 5. If you have table 5 and go hop in and out of lane 5 I don’t foresee us admonishing that person. I guess you could swim a lap and then get out.

Yes that’s what I meant. Not that it’s nearby but if a family has A lane is the table merely to keep their stuff or is sitting allowed? Do they have to stay swimming the whole time.

I think that’s the hope of phase 2...it can look a little more like what people are used to except you’re probably only socializing with your own family and not others. But many people at our pool get in to cool off a bit and then read at their table or relax so just clarifying that’s what you mean would be allowed.