Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)

[Anonymous]

75 % occupancy is a lot of people. Could be difficult to social distance in the pool on a hot weekend day. Ideas on how to do it safely?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:75 % occupancy is a lot of people. Could be difficult to social distance in the pool on a hot weekend day. Ideas on how to do it safely?

Cap it at less than 75%. We are planning on keeping ours at less than 50%. We rarely hit 50% on a typical summer day anyhow. Keep the table groupings at least 10 feet apart and continue reservations..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:VDH posted its Phase 3 aquatic guidelines. It looks pretty much same as the Phase 3 guidelines, which is good news. However this time, it looks like the tweak they made was to prohibit "slides", which seems like a pretty big deal to the parks. Another pretty silly requirement that seems designed to needle certain folks because there's no way virus remnants are going to attach themselves to those surfaces.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/environmental-health/phase-1-considerations-for-aquatic-facilities/

Phase 3 allows for free swim and for family members to be within 10 feet of each other. I never understood why family members couldn’t be within 10 feet in Phase 2.

I hope baby pools can open to single family use.

Is the problem with baby pools that little kids can't practice proper hygiene and those swimming diapers don't really prevent things getting into the water. Kids are also more likely to put water in their mouths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VDH posted its Phase 3 aquatic guidelines. It looks pretty much same as the Phase 3 guidelines, which is good news. However this time, it looks like the tweak they made was to prohibit "slides", which seems like a pretty big deal to the parks. Another pretty silly requirement that seems designed to needle certain folks because there's no way virus remnants are going to attach themselves to those surfaces.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/environmental-health/phase-1-considerations-for-aquatic-facilities/

Phase 3 allows for free swim and for family members to be within 10 feet of each other. I never understood why family members couldn’t be within 10 feet in Phase
I hope baby pools can open to single family use.

Is the problem with baby pools that little kids can't practice proper hygiene and those swimming diapers don't really prevent things getting into the water. Kids are also more likely to put water in their mouths.

The problem with baby pools (according to the VDH) in Phase 2 Is that pools aren’t supposed to be used for recreational swimming. I imagine they couldn’t justify baby pools being open in that case. Also people are supposed to be at least 10’ apart in Phase 2.

In 3 baby pools can open as long as you maintain at least 10’ from people not in your household.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VDH posted its Phase 3 aquatic guidelines. It looks pretty much same as the Phase 3 guidelines, which is good news. However this time, it looks like the tweak they made was to prohibit "slides", which seems like a pretty big deal to the parks. Another pretty silly requirement that seems designed to needle certain folks because there's no way virus remnants are going to attach themselves to those surfaces.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/environmental-health/phase-1-considerations-for-aquatic-facilities/

Phase 3 allows for free swim and for family members to be within 10 feet of each other. I never understood why family members couldn’t be within 10 feet in Phase
I hope baby pools can open to single family use.

Is the problem with baby pools that little kids can't practice proper hygiene and those swimming diapers don't really prevent things getting into the water. Kids are also more likely to put water in their mouths.

The problem with baby pools (according to the VDH) in Phase 2 Is that pools aren’t supposed to be used for recreational swimming. I imagine they couldn’t justify baby pools being open in that case. Also people are supposed to be at least 10’ apart in Phase 2.

In 3 baby pools can open as long as you maintain at least 10’ from people not in your household.

Nobody, including babies, are probably exerting themselves to the point where that 10 feet makes any sense. Not that that matters...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VDH posted its Phase 3 aquatic guidelines. It looks pretty much same as the Phase 3 guidelines, which is good news. However this time, it looks like the tweak they made was to prohibit "slides", which seems like a pretty big deal to the parks. Another pretty silly requirement that seems designed to needle certain folks because there's no way virus remnants are going to attach themselves to those surfaces.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/environmental-health/phase-1-considerations-for-aquatic-facilities/

Phase 3 allows for free swim and for family members to be within 10 feet of each other. I never understood why family members couldn’t be within 10 feet in Phase
I hope baby pools can open to single family use.

Is the problem with baby pools that little kids can't practice proper hygiene and those swimming diapers don't really prevent things getting into the water. Kids are also more likely to put water in their mouths.

The problem with baby pools (according to the VDH) in Phase 2 Is that pools aren’t supposed to be used for recreational swimming. I imagine they couldn’t justify baby pools being open in that case. Also people are supposed to be at least 10’ apart in Phase 2.

In 3 baby pools can open as long as you maintain at least 10’ from people not in your household.

Nobody, including babies, are probably exerting themselves to the point where that 10 feet makes any sense. Not that that matters...

Yes, but you are probably preaching to the choir. Baby pools really should have been allowed to be open at least to one family at a time, but the VDH was stuck on the distance rule for all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VDH posted its Phase 3 aquatic guidelines. It looks pretty much same as the Phase 3 guidelines, which is good news. However this time, it looks like the tweak they made was to prohibit "slides", which seems like a pretty big deal to the parks. Another pretty silly requirement that seems designed to needle certain folks because there's no way virus remnants are going to attach themselves to those surfaces.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/environmental-health/phase-1-considerations-for-aquatic-facilities/

Phase 3 allows for free swim and for family members to be within 10 feet of each other. I never understood why family members couldn’t be within 10 feet in Phase
I hope baby pools can open to single family use.

Is the problem with baby pools that little kids can't practice proper hygiene and those swimming diapers don't really prevent things getting into the water. Kids are also more likely to put water in their mouths.

The problem with baby pools (according to the VDH) in Phase 2 Is that pools aren’t supposed to be used for recreational swimming. I imagine they couldn’t justify baby pools being open in that case. Also people are supposed to be at least 10’ apart in Phase 2.

In 3 baby pools can open as long as you maintain at least 10’ from people not in your household.

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Nobody, including babies, are probably exerting themselves to the point where that 10 feet makes any sense. Not that that matters...

of course not. Its an utterly ridiculous construct. I am a frequent year round swimmer, and parent of year round swimmers. The only time I really see anyone breathing hard like that is right after a race when they pull themselves out of the water.
There are so many things about this approach that make no sense- which as a PP noted, matters not at all. But I must say them anyway. 1) the weird fixation with treating indoor and outdoor pools the same, when their risk profiles are dramatically different. 2) the willingness to take a superspreader event at an indoor zumba class in South Korea, and assume therefore that all people must exert whether indoor or outdoors, to a distance of 10 feet- so if you are doing anything physical you must be 10 feet apart, but yet the willingness to open indoor restaurants and bars to their full capacity despite those also being well known superspreader events. 3) the focus on minor picky things, that are extremely expensive- like making pools wash all the deck furniture outside between patrons- but there is no similar requirement for indoor restaurants. 4) the strange fixation with banning things like slides- b/c they might cause people to congregate?? yet the lack of understanding that you are closing off areas of the pool, and keeping all areas open facilitates physical distancing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VDH posted its Phase 3 aquatic guidelines. It looks pretty much same as the Phase 3 guidelines, which is good news. However this time, it looks like the tweak they made was to prohibit "slides", which seems like a pretty big deal to the parks. Another pretty silly requirement that seems designed to needle certain folks because there's no way virus remnants are going to attach themselves to those surfaces.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/environmental-health/phase-1-considerations-for-aquatic-facilities/

Phase 3 allows for free swim and for family members to be within 10 feet of each other. I never understood why family members couldn’t be within 10 feet in Phase
I hope baby pools can open to single family use.

Is the problem with baby pools that little kids can't practice proper hygiene and those swimming diapers don't really prevent things getting into the water. Kids are also more likely to put water in their mouths.

The problem with baby pools (according to the VDH) in Phase 2 Is that pools aren’t supposed to be used for recreational swimming. I imagine they couldn’t justify baby pools being open in that case. Also people are supposed to be at least 10’ apart in Phase 2.

In 3 baby pools can open as long as you maintain at least 10’ from people not in your household.

3
Nobody, including babies, are probably exerting themselves to the point where that 10 feet makes any sense. Not that that matters...

of course not. Its an utterly ridiculous construct. I am a frequent year round swimmer, and parent of year round swimmers. The only time I really see anyone breathing hard like that is right after a race when they pull themselves out of the water.
There are so many things about this approach that make no sense- which as a PP noted, matters not at all. But I must say them anyway. 1) the weird fixation with treating indoor and outdoor pools the same, when their risk profiles are dramatically different. 2) the willingness to take a superspreader event at an indoor zumba class in South Korea, and assume therefore that all people must exert whether indoor or outdoors, to a distance of 10 feet- so if you are doing anything physical you must be 10 feet apart, but yet the willingness to open indoor restaurants and bars to their full capacity despite those also being well known superspreader events. 3) the focus on minor picky things, that are extremely expensive- like making pools wash all the deck furniture outside between patrons- but there is no similar requirement for indoor restaurants. 4) the strange fixation with banning things like slides- b/c they might cause people to congregate?? yet the lack of understanding that you are closing off areas of the pool, and keeping all areas open facilitates physical distancing.

I totally agree. I have spent years around indoor and outdoor pools. I think a lot of this comes from people thinking that indoor pools and pool locker rooms are gross, dirty places, and they just decided to treat indoor and outdoor pools the same. I get that people think they are gross because everything is wet. But I'm not sure they are really any more germy than a bar or restaurant, yet no one talks about how gross those places are.

[Anonymous]

I am really happy with how my pool is going to handle phase 3. There is a sign up sheet for lap lanes, the baby pool, and general swimming. Once the limit on number of people per area has been reached, no one else can sign up. There are multiple time blocks throughout the day, and there is a limit to how many times per week a family can sign up. I was able to sign up for days/times without a problem. Can't wait to take my kids tomorrow!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am really happy with how my pool is going to handle phase 3. There is a sign up sheet for lap lanes, the baby pool, and general swimming. Once the limit on number of people per area has been reached, no one else can sign up. There are multiple time blocks throughout the day, and there is a limit to how many times per week a family can sign up. I was able to sign up for days/times without a problem. Can't wait to take my kids tomorrow!

That system has worked well at our pool. No limits on sign ups, though. A lot of people have been reluctant to come to the pool apparently, and the sign up list is rarely even 50% full for the main pool.

Tomorrow they start allowing food again and 2 hour time slots, which will be awesome. I think I’ll miss the reservation system when it’s gone; kids don’t beg for more time when everyone has to leave at the same time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am really happy with how my pool is going to handle phase 3. There is a sign up sheet for lap lanes, the baby pool, and general swimming. Once the limit on number of people per area has been reached, no one else can sign up. There are multiple time blocks throughout the day, and there is a limit to how many times per week a family can sign up. I was able to sign up for days/times without a problem. Can't wait to take my kids tomorrow!

That system has worked well at our pool. No limits on sign ups, though. A lot of people have been reluctant to come to the pool apparently, and the sign up list is rarely even 50% full for the main pool.

Tomorrow they start allowing food again and 2 hour time slots, which will be awesome. I think I’ll miss the reservation system when it’s gone; kids don’t beg for more time when everyone has to leave at the same time.

NP
I have noticed that a few minutes before the end of our 90 minute reservation block people start to get ready to go and people are already leaving or have left when the guard makes the announcement that the session is over. It's also nice to know that we will have a table with an umbrella waiting for us when we arrive. It's also not busy because once the tables are reserved that's it. We have been able to take food during Phase 2, but at most all we take are some snacks and water since it is 90 minutes long. Still, 90 minutes is not a bad chunk of time.

[Anonymous]

So we’ve all been at it for awhile...how did everyone’s pools do this summer? Any major outbreaks from not following strict guidelines? I have seen other pools not restrict swimming in the pool and not requiring masks so obviously the interpretations were pretty wide. But seems like the pool was pretty safe this summer!

[Anonymous]

Ours has been open all summer and we have had nothing

[Anonymous]

No problems.

[Anonymous]

no outbreaks at any pool in the area (or dare I say, in the country, world). Outdoor pools do not equal outbreaks.