Tuckahoe Boots Machine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In other news, feel free to sign up!

https://www.swimhydra.com/page/home

Not one of those coaches is over the age of 30, maybe 35. They just don’t have the experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

I don't think they'll be invited to NCI. There's no room for them in Sport Fair. What's their December champs meet?

Will they slog to Germantown for Riley Eaton?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

[Anonymous]

It takes close to a year to get USA swimming certified.

There is no way I’d be moving my kid until a firm meet schedule is provided.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

Still, he did not develop her into an Olympian. The way he throws her name around is gross. Just look at this bio on the Hydra site!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

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His team website is beyond cheesy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

Again, weird one to dig in on. I said I heard her give him credit for this. It doesn't take anything away from Evan (or her dad now?) for Torey to have been involved in her training. And from her words, it was guidance and mentorship as well, which extends beyond just weight training. Please tell me which one of my statements was wrong. He was involved in her training, beyond just sitting back as her high school coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

Again, weird one to dig in on. I said I heard her give him credit for this. It doesn't take anything away from Evan (or her dad now?) for Torey to have been involved in her training. And from her words, it was guidance and mentorship as well, which extends beyond just weight training. Please tell me which one of my statements was wrong. He was involved in her training, beyond just sitting back as her high school coach.

He helped her with a weights and probably cheered her. She is a very kind and generous kid. Incredibly sweet. That was a help to her.

But to then act as if he was one of her foundation swim coaches seems a reach. She was not coached by him from a swim perspective. He played a part as her dryland guy and she appreciated that. If he wants to take credit for that aspect of her training great. But that is not what his site implies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

Again, weird one to dig in on. I said I heard her give him credit for this. It doesn't take anything away from Evan (or her dad now?) for Torey to have been involved in her training. And from her words, it was guidance and mentorship as well, which extends beyond just weight training. Please tell me which one of my statements was wrong. He was involved in her training, beyond just sitting back as her high school coach.

He helped her with a weights and probably cheered her. She is a very kind and generous kid. Incredibly sweet. That was a help to her.

But to then act as if he was one of her foundation swim coaches seems a reach. She was not coached by him from a swim perspective. He played a part as her dryland guy and she appreciated that. If he wants to take credit for that aspect of her training great. But that is not what his site implies.

What his site implies? Here's what it actually says:
https://www.swimhydra.com/page/full-coaches-bios/meet-coach-torey-ortmayer

His achievements include:

4x VHSL State Champion Coach
5x VHSL Region Champion Coach
10x VHSL District Champion Coach
Back-to-back NVSL Division 1 Championships with Tuckahoe (2023–2024)
Strength coach for Olympian Torri Huske leading up to the 2021 Tokyo Games



So much hatred on this site. Pretty sure a clear statement he was her strength coach implies that he was her strength coach. Take your anonymous lies somewhere else or post your name with it.

[Anonymous]

There is a lot of hate for him….there is probably a reason for it and again makes me question what meets he is going to get an invite to? You can like a coach but I want my kid to be able to compete outside of the PVS meets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of hate for him….there is probably a reason for it and again makes me question what meets he is going to get an invite to? You can like a coach but I want my kid to be able to compete outside of the PVS meets.

I guess folks will know soon enough. Clock will soon start ticking on sign-ups for the 25-26 season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here
as a parent I would ask to the see the competition schedule of said promised meets. PVS meets any club can go to. So that gives you 3 open meets, Champ meets and 1 LC meet. Machine, YORK NCAP and AAC hosted meets will certainly be out. If judging by how no coaches at Championship meets would interact with him aside from the coaches going with him, and listening to the coach chatter he is not liked by the coach community at all. Hard to get invites to meets when you aren’t liked or trusted. Don’t know him but this is a very small network. They can always travel.

I’m not with any of the directly affected clubs, but why would NCAP or AAC blackball this new club? I understand why you would say York and Machine might not be inclined to invite them to meets, but what is the link with NCAP and AAC?

Machine and NCAP are very close teams and staffs. Many meets are run together.

The AAC head coach, staff and board has been over Ortmayer for years for his continued claims of having anything to do with Huske and her Olympic performances. Another reason stated by coaches of having no respect for Ortmayer. He was not Huske coach, Evan Stiles was. Evan Stiles developed her. Yet Ortmayer actively tries to say she was his swimmer. High school coaches do not produce Olympians. Ortmayer was not liked or respected in the coach community long before he decided to open a club.

This one struck me as odd because I have personally heard Torri talk about how much Torey helped her as a mentor and strength training coach. She was talking to a group of swimmers about conditioning and training. I know ive seen news articles as well supporting this and ive never heard him say anything undercutting Evan as her coach.
You don't have to like him, but you can't take that one away from him. He was involved in her training beyond simply being a high school coach.

He didn't work on her swimming though. It was literally a weight training program. And bu this logic Torey is qualified to be a physical trainer for the help he gave.
Evan was her primary coach and during Covid had to find long course pools for her to train at. Her father probably was her biggest coach. He worked on her nutrition and worked hand and hand with Evan on all her training. The two of them were a team.

Again, weird one to dig in on. I said I heard her give him credit for this. It doesn't take anything away from Evan (or her dad now?) for Torey to have been involved in her training. And from her words, it was guidance and mentorship as well, which extends beyond just weight training. Please tell me which one of my statements was wrong. He was involved in her training, beyond just sitting back as her high school coach.

He helped her with a weights and probably cheered her. She is a very kind and generous kid. Incredibly sweet. That was a help to her.

But to then act as if he was one of her foundation swim coaches seems a reach. She was not coached by him from a swim perspective. He played a part as her dryland guy and she appreciated that. If he wants to take credit for that aspect of her training great. But that is not what his site implies.

What his site implies? Here's what it actually says:
https://www.swimhydra.com/page/full-coaches-bios/meet-coach-torey-ortmayer

His achievements include:

4x VHSL State Champion Coach
5x VHSL Region Champion Coach
10x VHSL District Champion Coach
Back-to-back NVSL Division 1 Championships with Tuckahoe (2023–2024)
Strength coach for Olympian Torri Huske leading up to the 2021 Tokyo Games



So much hatred on this site. Pretty sure a clear statement he was her strength coach implies that he was her strength coach. Take your anonymous lies somewhere else or post your name with it.

🤣🤣 hi Torey or Mark or Lisa

[Anonymous]

I would not sign up for a team without a schedule of meets. They might be limited to PVS opens and no invitationals.

I am not sure what kind of relationship they have with the Makos, Marlins, etc that host a lot of the invites.

I also imagine that it would take some time for them to even make a profit and their rates are pretty high for something untested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not sign up for a team without a schedule of meets. They might be limited to PVS opens and no invitationals.

I am not sure what kind of relationship they have with the Makos, Marlins, etc that host a lot of the invites.

I also imagine that it would take some time for them to even make a profit and their rates are pretty high for something untested.

Don’t need to be concerned with profitability if you’re subsidized….