Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.


Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.


You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.


You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.


Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.



Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?


I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.
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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.


Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.


You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.


You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.


Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.



Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?


I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.


All of our tax money whose brilliant idea was this. I wish they would pay for it.
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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.


Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.


You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.


You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.


Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.



Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?


I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.


All of our tax money whose brilliant idea was this. I wish they would pay for it.

Does Mexico have any money left or are they all out after they paid for our wall?
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Does anyone think they will round up people in Florida or Texas? Southern Florida is a foreign country. Only 10% of the population speaks English.
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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.


Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.


You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.


You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.


Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.



Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?


I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.


All of our tax money whose brilliant idea was this. I wish they would pay for it.

Does Mexico have any money left or are they all out after they paid for our wall?


Well, I hope you're right and this building massive detention facilities is the same as building the wall. Which is to say it's basically nonsense. I guess we will see. I have better things to do with my money than the stupid wall or the stupid detention facilities.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think they will round up people in Florida or Texas? Southern Florida is a foreign country. Only 10% of the population speaks English.


While they both certainly voted for that. So I guess give the voters what they want.
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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.


Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.


You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.


You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.


Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.



Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?


I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.


Go to emergency rooms in certain areas and see the amount of uncompensated care. Look at the number of motorists getting into accidents without insurance in comparison to 20 years ago. The costs are everywhere, but the data isn't collected, so Dems pretend those costs don't exist.
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Anonymous wrote:Green Card Holders Supporting Trump's Immigration Policies Why Don’t People Understand?

I've noticed a growing sentiment among green card holders who support stricter immigration enforcement, including deportations. Many feel frustrated by the delays and challenges they've faced due to the overwhelming number of undocumented cases. These individuals followed the rules, waited in line, and did everything by the book to earn their legal status.

The perception is that undocumented immigration disrupts the system, making it harder for those who play by the rules. Some green card holders I know are excited about the possibility of stricter enforcement, believing it would restore fairness and efficiency to the system.

Interestingly, this sentiment isn’t confined to legal immigrants. In the 2024 election, Hispanic-majority border towns in Texas, such as Starr County, voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Starr County, with a 97% Hispanic population, had consistently voted Democratic for over a century but shifted to support Trump in 2024.


Why do people struggle to understand this perspective? Supporting enforcement isn’t necessarily anti-immigrant; for many, it’s about respecting the process and ensuring fairness for those who follow it.

Thank you.
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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.


Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.


You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.


You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.


Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.



Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?


I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.


Go to emergency rooms in certain areas and see the amount of uncompensated care. Look at the number of motorists getting into accidents without insurance in comparison to 20 years ago. The costs are everywhere, but the data isn't collected, so Dems pretend those costs don't exist.


Okay match it up against all of the tax money collected and boost to the economy and see how it comes out. Do you know how expensive it is to keep someone in jail. A heck of a lot more than some ER bills.

If we want to change the asylum system then let's change the asylum system. I think spending billions and billions of dollars on detention facilities is a stupid way to do it.
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Anonymous wrote:You know what also will be expensive? The price of food and labor if illegal immigrants are deported. Good luck with getting cheap produce or paying your housekeeper and nanny on the cheap. And you better start saving if you want anything done on your house.


Hope.

Half of the illegals are not working many hours a week.

And sorry, no one anywhere is paying an illiterate, uneducated unskilled illegal in migrant to care for a baby, toddler or child or drive them around or housekeep their homes.
They don’t even know how to operate an oven properly. And forget the thermostats even in the car. Or any instructions. The lost in translations of having someone with limited English proficiency is NOT worth it. What do you think they’d get paid for that anyhow?

Incompetent is incompetent. They grew up in dirt floor shack not even knowing what road rules were, how insurance or preventative care works, how any developed country appliance works.

And you think families are going to turn over their vehicles, lawn gear, kitchens and children to them?!!?

lol

Wake up


Actually, they do.

Also, a good number of the illegal border crossers are Chinese. But, I guess those are the “good” immigrants and you don’t mind them.


DP. It is true that a LOT of liberal families employ nannies who hardly speak a word of English and can't drive. I can't imagine turning my children over to someone like that, regardless of what country they're from. The PP's description was spot on.

As for Chinese border crossers - they're illegal immigrants too. Not sure where you're getting the "good immigrants" description from. Illegal is illegal.

Ah yes it’s the liberals hiring all the illegals. Not the small business owners and farmers who voted for Trump. Nope, def. not!


It's certainly not ALL small business owners and farmers, as people like you love to claim. You simply can't deny how many liberals employ illegal immigrants to care for their children, clean their homes, landscape their yards, etc. No doubt, that's why you're so upset at the idea of deportation. Who will raise your kids and clean your toilets??

So you don’t want people making generalizations about employing illegals but you are making generalizations about liberals? And why are you equating rich with liberal? You think all those people living in McMansions are liberal? The truth is most restaurants do employ undocumented workers. As do many farmers. And construction companies. Keep telling yourself it’s just the libs who will be impacted. You are delulu.


My sister helped an illegal Colombian from Medellin last year. She managed to get him housing but really had a tough time getting him a job without a social security number. The brewery hired him for 3 days (legal) and paid him cash. Day 4 they told her they can't keep him on due to the law but they want him back once he has a social security number. The independently owned convenience store hired him on for 3 days (legal) and paid cash. Day 4 they called my sister and said they could not keep him on since he did not have a social security number but they want him back once he got his social.
She took around to around 20 independently owned restaurants. No one would hire as no social security number.
She finally found a restaurant that would take him on.

Our experience was that it was not easy to get an illegal a job. Most small business owners follow the law.

I suspect many that you assume are illegal workers are actually legal workers.

He now has his social security number. It takes 6 months in the US for an illegal to get a social security number. This allows an illegal to be legally employed in the US.


How cool! Spread the word!!

So glad we gift illegal immigrants an ID number so they can work here a bit on the books.

What other cool countries also do this?!?


It’s so they can pay taxes nimwit. Undocumented immigrants pay $96B a year in state and federal taxes. They need a SSN to do that. Yet, your white plumber is probably not reporting all his earnings to the IRS.


My brother is a "white plumber" who has trained and employed 16 plumbers , 13 of whom are Hispanic, and is helping all of them through their 4 year programs to become master plumbers. He pays Federal taxes their contributions to FICA and health insurance. In additon, every year on Thomas Crapper's birthday, he invites the community to a party for the man who relieved all of us.

So a big FU to you who thinks everyone cheats on their taxes like you.


Stop conflating a well-trained, lengthy apprenticeship trade program with illiterate, unskilled, uneducated, illegal aliens who show up expecting some magic job and money.

And the GCs and subcontractors who hired them to do manual labor, and at cash pay discounted prices. Which should be skilled but boy do they make it unskilled.
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Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.


It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.


Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.


You forgot heavily fining and jailing the employers.


Warning, then fine, then cease & desist.


No warnings necessary. It isn't as if this issue has suddenly cropped up or that hiring undocumented immigrants (those without visas permitting them to work) hasn't been illegal forever.

And what's cease and desist? Just jail the people who ignore the laws of this country with regard to employing people who are not so entitled. 1 year per serson. Sentences to run consecutively.


Yes they need a formal warning from the state, federal and irs level.

Cease and desist means the business is shut down.
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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.


Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.


You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.


You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.


Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.



Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?


I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.


Go to emergency rooms in certain areas and see the amount of uncompensated care. Look at the number of motorists getting into accidents without insurance in comparison to 20 years ago. The costs are everywhere, but the data isn't collected, so Dems pretend those costs don't exist.


Okay match it up against all of the tax money collected and boost to the economy and see how it comes out. Do you know how expensive it is to keep someone in jail. A heck of a lot more than some ER bills.

If we want to change the asylum system then let's change the asylum system. I think spending billions and billions of dollars on detention facilities is a stupid way to do it.


I don't support jailing them. I support a far harsher response to people who illegally enter the country.
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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.


Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.


You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.


You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.


Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.



Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?


I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.


Go to emergency rooms in certain areas and see the amount of uncompensated care. Look at the number of motorists getting into accidents without insurance in comparison to 20 years ago. The costs are everywhere, but the data isn't collected, so Dems pretend those costs don't exist.


Okay match it up against all of the tax money collected and boost to the economy and see how it comes out. Do you know how expensive it is to keep someone in jail. A heck of a lot more than some ER bills.

If we want to change the asylum system then let's change the asylum system. I think spending billions and billions of dollars on detention facilities is a stupid way to do it.


I don't support jailing them. I support a far harsher response to people who illegally enter the country.


Well, the Trump voters voted for massive detention facilities and those are really expensive.
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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.


Democrats say they don't want illegal aliens, but they won't deport them and won't stop them at the border. Democrats' actions say loud and clear that Dems want illegal aliens. Same goes for elected Republicans, who are too dumb to elect people to represent their interests.



No moron. Democrats do not want to deport those here on asylum. MAGA conflate illegal aliens and asylum seekers, see Springfield, OH.


Everyone and their neighbors kid is here on weak, phony asylum cases.

Your NGOs tell them what to say to get catch & release after illegally crossing. Then don’t worry about showing up at the court case 3-5 years later. You won’t have the same address anyhow, and be sure to have 4.28 anchor babies with women.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/



Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.



I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.


Guess we’ll just have to keep doing what the illegals are doing: showing us with action.

Dem’s talk is cheap. Piss cheap.
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