VT this Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:Difficulty with Tech is that ED app (versus EA) is necessary only for a specific group of applicants. Tech will never say who that is, though. "If you're East Asian or White high-achieving student from Richmond suburbs or Loudoun County at pressure cooker HS with more than 2,000 students, be sure to ED or how dare you question why you have to pay $300,000 to Michigan for engineering now. And do not question us!"

God forbid your child go to GMU.

You chose to live in a really wealthy, segregated school catchment zone and then complain that universities are recognizing talented kids who didn’t get to live in wealthy school districts.

Seriously. The persecution complex with these people is exhausting. Their children are getting rejected because they are basically drones and VT doesn't want drones. They think high academic performance and test scores should give them the key to whatever they want. It doesn't work that way. In schools or in business.

Why are you making such an unwarranted (and mean-spirited) assumption? You know nothing about these applicants. FYI, there are lots of high stats kids who also have excellent ECs and lots of volunteer work. And VT certainly isn't the only school that values service. The high stats kids gunning for T30 schools know full well they have to show a lot more than test scores and stellar GPAs to be considered for admission.

I am sure they are but I am reacting to the entitlement displayed by their parents in these forums who seem aghast and pissed off that their high-stats progeny were rejected or waitlisted and then insinuate they are more deserving than URMs or kids with lower stats because they are high stats. Usually these are people who have been driving their kids hard for years to be high stats and also try to check boxes for college admission at elite schools rather than actually develop as interesting people.

NP. I've just skimmed this thread. I think what people have an issue with is that kids have been told since the time they entered school is work hard, get good grades and you will be "rewarded". Historically, admittance to Tech had always been one of the attainable rewards. What do you tell a kid with perfect stats and busting their ass for 4+ years, sorry, not enough seats for you now.

I’d go with honesty. “I was totally bullshitting you to manipulate you.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Difficulty with Tech is that ED app (versus EA) is necessary only for a specific group of applicants. Tech will never say who that is, though. "If you're East Asian or White high-achieving student from Richmond suburbs or Loudoun County at pressure cooker HS with more than 2,000 students, be sure to ED or how dare you question why you have to pay $300,000 to Michigan for engineering now. And do not question us!"

God forbid your child go to GMU.

You chose to live in a really wealthy, segregated school catchment zone and then complain that universities are recognizing talented kids who didn’t get to live in wealthy school districts.

Seriously. The persecution complex with these people is exhausting. Their children are getting rejected because they are basically drones and VT doesn't want drones. They think high academic performance and test scores should give them the key to whatever they want. It doesn't work that way. In schools or in business.



He should be the one on here asking.

They want kids with savvy, initiative and ability to overcome obstacles.

So, what works? asking for my son, currently a Junior in High School.

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9/10 upper income parents would kill to have their kid accepted to Michigan for ANY major over second tier state schools in their home state.

What? Many people on this thread have claimed VT was their preferred choice because of the in state tuition. Who said anything about MI? I think MI OOS is $50K a year. I don't tjonk 9/10 people would be willing to pay that for any major.

Seriously. What does MI have to do with this thread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Difficulty with Tech is that ED app (versus EA) is necessary only for a specific group of applicants. Tech will never say who that is, though. "If you're East Asian or White high-achieving student from Richmond suburbs or Loudoun County at pressure cooker HS with more than 2,000 students, be sure to ED or how dare you question why you have to pay $300,000 to Michigan for engineering now. And do not question us!"

God forbid your child go to GMU.

You chose to live in a really wealthy, segregated school catchment zone and then complain that universities are recognizing talented kids who didn’t get to live in wealthy school districts.

Seriously. The persecution complex with these people is exhausting. Their children are getting rejected because they are basically drones and VT doesn't want drones. They think high academic performance and test scores should give them the key to whatever they want. It doesn't work that way. In schools or in business.

Why are you making such an unwarranted (and mean-spirited) assumption? You know nothing about these applicants. FYI, there are lots of high stats kids who also have excellent ECs and lots of volunteer work. And VT certainly isn't the only school that values service. The high stats kids gunning for T30 schools know full well they have to show a lot more than test scores and stellar GPAs to be considered for admission.

I am sure they are but I am reacting to the entitlement displayed by their parents in these forums who seem aghast and pissed off that their high-stats progeny were rejected or waitlisted and then insinuate they are more deserving than URMs or kids with lower stats because they are high stats. Usually these are people who have been driving their kids hard for years to be high stats and also try to check boxes for college admission at elite schools rather than actually develop as interesting people.

NP. I've just skimmed this thread. I think what people have an issue with is that kids have been told since the time they entered school is work hard, get good grades and you will be "rewarded". Historically, admittance to Tech had always been one of the attainable rewards. What do you tell a kid with perfect stats and busting their ass for 4+ years, sorry, not enough seats for you now.

You tell them that playing the field is fine, as long as they accept the risks. If they show commitment by ED-ing (any school), that will help them in many cases. This is not difficult. Sometimes you actually can't have your cake and eat it too.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Difficulty with Tech is that ED app (versus EA) is necessary only for a specific group of applicants. Tech will never say who that is, though. "If you're East Asian or White high-achieving student from Richmond suburbs or Loudoun County at pressure cooker HS with more than 2,000 students, be sure to ED or how dare you question why you have to pay $300,000 to Michigan for engineering now. And do not question us!"

God forbid your child go to GMU.

You chose to live in a really wealthy, segregated school catchment zone and then complain that universities are recognizing talented kids who didn’t get to live in wealthy school districts.

Seriously. The persecution complex with these people is exhausting. Their children are getting rejected because they are basically drones and VT doesn't want drones. They think high academic performance and test scores should give them the key to whatever they want. It doesn't work that way. In schools or in business.



He should be the one on here asking.

They want kids with savvy, initiative and ability to overcome obstacles.

So, what works? asking for my son, currently a Junior in High School.

Apply ED; be URM or first-generation

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Can we beat this horse any further?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we beat this horse any further?

Of course we can

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Anonymous wrote:Many high stats kids do want VT because of the in state cost savings. It’s not okay to yield protect in state kids.

Then apply ED and stop complaining.

Agree. Apply ED instate to either UVA or VT whichever is your first choice and stop complaining and saying oh that was my first choice after decisions come out.

That is a dumb argument. High stats kids have to burn their one ED shot or get shut out of their state university because the school will yield protect against over qualified kids potentially rejecting them? [i] Many states like UT Austin also guarantee admission to in state high stats kids.

I don’t think Tech is doing this. My daughter with a 4.6, 1530 got in and she applied EA.

Of course Tech is engaging in yield protection. It has been for the last four years. Go back here on DCUM and read the ED, EA, and RD threads and look at the stats of kids deferred or waitlisted. They are astounding. Do the same at College Confidential and Reddit. Just because your kid got in doesn’t mean similarly situated kids did not

DP. You seem to believe all qualified kids should be accepted, but that’s not reality. Name a school that is able to do that - none. They pick the students they want, as at any university. What’s astounding is that some of you parents can’t seem to accept this.

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#entitlement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Difficulty with Tech is that ED app (versus EA) is necessary only for a specific group of applicants. Tech will never say who that is, though. "If you're East Asian or White high-achieving student from Richmond suburbs or Loudoun County at pressure cooker HS with more than 2,000 students, be sure to ED or how dare you question why you have to pay $300,000 to Michigan for engineering now. And do not question us!"

God forbid your child go to GMU.

You chose to live in a really wealthy, segregated school catchment zone and then complain that universities are recognizing talented kids who didn’t get to live in wealthy school districts.

Seriously. The persecution complex with these people is exhausting. Their children are getting rejected because they are basically drones and VT doesn't want drones. They think high academic performance and test scores should give them the key to whatever they want. It doesn't work that way. In schools or in business.



He should be the one on here asking.

They want kids with savvy, initiative and ability to overcome obstacles.

So, what works? asking for my son, currently a Junior in High School.

Apply Early Decision

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many high stats kids do want VT because of the in state cost savings. It’s not okay to yield protect in state kids.

Then apply ED and stop complaining.

Agree. Apply ED instate to either UVA or VT whichever is your first choice and stop complaining and saying oh that was my first choice after decisions come out.

That is a dumb argument. High stats kids have to burn their one ED shot or get shut out of their state university because the school will yield protect against over qualified kids potentially rejecting them? [i] Many states like UT Austin also guarantee admission to in state high stats kids.

I don’t think Tech is doing this. My daughter with a 4.6, 1530 got in and she applied EA.

Of course Tech is engaging in yield protection. It has been for the last four years. Go back here on DCUM and read the ED, EA, and RD threads and look at the stats of kids deferred or waitlisted. They are astounding. Do the same at College Confidential and Reddit. Just because your kid got in doesn’t mean similarly situated kids did not

DP. You seem to believe all qualified kids should be accepted, but that’s not reality. Name a school that is able to do that - none. They pick the students they want, as at any university. What’s astounding is that some of you parents can’t seem to accept this.

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#entitlement

Just stop. That word is so overused by your generation!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Difficulty with Tech is that ED app (versus EA) is necessary only for a specific group of applicants. Tech will never say who that is, though. "If you're East Asian or White high-achieving student from Richmond suburbs or Loudoun County at pressure cooker HS with more than 2,000 students, be sure to ED or how dare you question why you have to pay $300,000 to Michigan for engineering now. And do not question us!"

God forbid your child go to GMU.

You chose to live in a really wealthy, segregated school catchment zone and then complain that universities are recognizing talented kids who didn’t get to live in wealthy school districts.

Seriously. The persecution complex with these people is exhausting. Their children are getting rejected because they are basically drones and VT doesn't want drones. They think high academic performance and test scores should give them the key to whatever they want. It doesn't work that way. In schools or in business.



He should be the one on here asking.

They want kids with savvy, initiative and ability to overcome obstacles.

So, what works? asking for my son, currently a Junior in High School.

Apply ED; be URM or first-generation

And yet there are not many such kids at VT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Difficulty with Tech is that ED app (versus EA) is necessary only for a specific group of applicants. Tech will never say who that is, though. "If you're East Asian or White high-achieving student from Richmond suburbs or Loudoun County at pressure cooker HS with more than 2,000 students, be sure to ED or how dare you question why you have to pay $300,000 to Michigan for engineering now. And do not question us!"

God forbid your child go to GMU.

You chose to live in a really wealthy, segregated school catchment zone and then complain that universities are recognizing talented kids who didn’t get to live in wealthy school districts.

Seriously. The persecution complex with these people is exhausting. Their children are getting rejected because they are basically drones and VT doesn't want drones. They think high academic performance and test scores should give them the key to whatever they want. It doesn't work that way. In schools or in business.



He should be the one on here asking.

They want kids with savvy, initiative and ability to overcome obstacles.

So, what works? asking for my son, currently a Junior in High School.

Apply ED; be URM or first-generation

And yet there are not many such kids at VT.

Totally false. Last year’s entering class is 40 percent URM, underserved students and first generation. Google it.

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Anonymous wrote:Many high stats kids do want VT because of the in state cost savings. It’s not okay to yield protect in state kids.

Then apply ED and stop complaining.

Agree. Apply ED instate to either UVA or VT whichever is your first choice and stop complaining and saying oh that was my first choice after decisions come out.

That is a dumb argument. High stats kids have to burn their one ED shot or get shut out of their state university because the school will yield protect against over qualified kids potentially rejecting them? [i] Many states like UT Austin also guarantee admission to in state high stats kids.

I don’t think Tech is doing this. My daughter with a 4.6, 1530 got in and she applied EA.

Of course Tech is engaging in yield protection. It has been for the last four years. Go back here on DCUM and read the ED, EA, and RD threads and look at the stats of kids deferred or waitlisted. They are astounding. Do the same at College Confidential and Reddit. Just because your kid got in doesn’t mean similarly situated kids did not

DP. You seem to believe all qualified kids should be accepted, but that’s not reality. Name a school that is able to do that - none. They pick the students they want, as at any university. What’s astounding is that some of you parents can’t seem to accept this.

+1

#entitlement

Just stop. That word is so overused by your generation!

Something must be hitting home….