Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

[Anonymous]

Her face is all over the news. She is not alive. There is one person who knows what happened. He is not cooperating with police and is instead being as silent as legally allowed.

This is not some normal "oh we broke up" bull shit.

The psychos who kill their pregnancy wives (Scott Peterson, Tyler Tessier) usually try to work with police at first to appear innocent. This guy went from "we are in love" to "I have a lawyer" VERY QUICKLY.

Also: she is still missing. She is not turning up alive. Please find me one case where 3 weeks later someone turned up alive when the boyfriend is acting shady AF. I'll wait.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didnt he fly home then and leave her the car? He was in a hotel without her and she had the van elsewhere. He had to get in touch with her to come get him for him to gain control of the van. He could have called an uber and gotten to the airport if he was just done and over it. It had recently snowed where they were. She's not just going to decide to relinquish the van and hoof it with a tent.

She says she only drives short distances. Maybe she asked him to take the van back? I doubt she wanted to be left with it. I think he flew back because she asked him to drive the van back to Florida. But they’d already broken up by then.

Again she is going to stay where when he takes the car? She cannot stay outside, for long anyway, in that climate. If she was using cash that would be dried up by now. If she is using a bank card or credit card there would be a train and there is none. She hasn't called her parents saying either she is ok or needs help getting home. She hasnt bought food either because again she only had a certain amount and cash and would be onto cards now.

So with a straight face you can honestly say you believe she is just hanging around, a single woman without a phone in the middle of nowhere in bad weather with limited resources, knowing her parents are scared to death about her, just chillin. And boyfriend left her happy and safe in the middle of nowhere in unpredictable weather but didn't call her parents to them know and now will not even tell a single soul where they can find her to get her help after she been declared a missing person?!?! GTFOH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her face is all over the news. She is not alive. There is one person who knows what happened. He is not cooperating with police and is instead being as silent as legally allowed.

This is not some normal "oh we broke up" bull shit.

The psychos who kill their pregnancy wives (Scott Peterson, Tyler Tessier) usually try to work with police at first to appear innocent. This guy went from "we are in love" to "I have a lawyer" VERY QUICKLY.

Also: she is still missing. She is not turning up alive. Please find me one case where 3 weeks later someone turned up alive when the boyfriend is acting shady AF. I'll wait.

https://silverandfree.com/blogs/silver-free-blog/11-amazing-before-and-after-gray-hair-transformation-photos

Glad you "waited"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Her face is all over the news. She is not alive. There is one person who knows what happened. He is not cooperating with police and is instead being as silent as legally allowed.

This is not some normal "oh we broke up" bull shit.

The psychos who kill their pregnancy wives (Scott Peterson, Tyler Tessier) usually try to work with police at first to appear innocent. This guy went from "we are in love" to "I have a lawyer" VERY QUICKLY.

Also: she is still missing. She is not turning up alive. Please find me one case where 3 weeks later someone turned up alive when the boyfriend is acting shady AF. I'll wait.

https://silverandfree.com/blogs/silver-free-blog/11-amazing-before-and-after-gray-hair-transformation-photos

Glad you "waited"

haha, meant to add this link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Sherri_Papini

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Anonymous wrote:i'm coming to this thread very late and not terribly knowledgeable, so I'm sure this has been covered but if the van was hers and he was found in possession of it, shouldn't/couldn't he have been arrested for auto theft and held that way?

Someone will come along and tell you that the van was not reported stolen, so it’s not a crime. That in the police video, he was the driver and she was okay with that, so it makes sense that he would have her car.

To the rest of us using common sense, it’s a major red flag for him to be in possession of her vehicle back in Florida, with her having gone missing.

Glad we have a rational, impartial legal system in place, instead of relying on emotions and misguided “common sense” of people like you.

It was once “common sense” to burn women as witches, based on perceived “red flags.”

Oh, I’m thrilled that this young man will be going through the legal system. I look forward to the legal system picking apart arguments like “she probably loaned him the car” and “he pretended to be her in a text to her mom because he was scared” and “he was the abuse victim and the missing woman was the abuser”.

If he faked her texts, there is likely video from the phone or cell service provider showing him writing the texts.

The only evidence he faked her texts is her own mom’s unsubstantiated hunches.

Lol WHAT

OMG could you imagine if there was video stored of EVERY text being written ever. The only thing the cell company can provide is the LOCATION the text was sent from, and they can say whether his phone was close to hers at the time.

I'm curious if the iPhone has face unlock capabilities if it logs which face was recognized to unlock it (ie matched to entry A - her or entry B - him), but you would need the actual phone to recover that type of information, and I don't think her phone has been recovered, has it?

The fact that the prolific Brian defender on this thread seems to believe that every American is being *filmed* every time they send a text, tells you everything you need to know about their logical reasoning skills.

[Anonymous]

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I'm curious if the iPhone has face unlock capabilities if it logs which face was recognized to unlock it (ie matched to entry A - her or entry B - him), but you would need the actual phone to recover that type of information, and I don't think her phone has been recovered, has it?

I would guess it’s possible but would need the actual device. Assuming you had the alternate Face ID appearances set up, you would think that info would be accessible. I have personally never seen that in an investigation before, but I also don’t think it’s super common for people to set up a Face ID for their partner (not saying it doesn’t happen or couldn’t happen). If the phone had an alternate code to unlock it, I think it’s more likely the partner would have that passcode.

[Anonymous]

Why didn't his parents ask him where she was when he arrived home without her in her vehicle, considering she lived with them/him? This is all sorts of shady.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Her face is all over the news. She is not alive. There is one person who knows what happened. He is not cooperating with police and is instead being as silent as legally allowed.

This is not some normal "oh we broke up" bull shit.

The psychos who kill their pregnancy wives (Scott Peterson, Tyler Tessier) usually try to work with police at first to appear innocent. This guy went from "we are in love" to "I have a lawyer" VERY QUICKLY.

Also: she is still missing. She is not turning up alive. Please find me one case where 3 weeks later someone turned up alive when the boyfriend is acting shady AF. I'll wait.

https://silverandfree.com/blogs/silver-free-blog/11-amazing-before-and-after-gray-hair-transformation-photos

Glad you "waited"

haha, meant to add this link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Sherri_Papini

Good luck on your grey journey.

That woman's husband was CONCERNED.

"According to Bosenko, Keith Papini "has been cooperative and even volunteered for a polygraph, which he passed."

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Anonymous wrote:Playing devil's advocate - considering that he had flown to FL just a few weeks ago, why would he drive back without her knowing it would lead to a MILLION questions if he did kill her?

I'm not saying he didn't - and I'm CERTAINLY not saying she wasn't a victim of something, I mean that video says it all - but it's not like he thought he could just go back in their van and people would be like, "oh no Gabby? Cool."

I think they got into a fight and something happened that led to her death and that whatever it was was probably a grey area of fault. Maybe they got rough next to an edge of a cliff, maybe she ran crying and fell, maybe he drove off to cool down and came back and she was gone and he found her body somewhere near by. I think he did not MURDER her but something happened where he wasn't sure if he had criminal liability. He freaked out, got scared, and started driving home. Takes her phone, stupidly posts and texts a few times. Realizes that this is a bad idea, ditches the phone, keeps driving. Gets home, spills everything to mom and dad and they lawyer up.

I agree that this is likely what happened.

No way, if her death involves a fall, he would never be convicted of anything,too much reasonable doubt. He killed her in a way that there was no argument it was accidental or he wouldn’t be running.

Where is all her stuff? They were supposed to be traveling for months so she must have had a bunch of clothing, personal items, purse, laptop. Are those still in the van? If he killed her or even if she had an accidental death did he dispose of her things?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think leaving someone on the side of the road taking their car in a desert is negligent homicide. Because likely would die of exposure.

Yes! Also, can't he be charged with obstruction of justice? They don't even know what state to look in because he won't reveal anything. That is willful negligence. If the authorities can charge people with a hit and run, why is this less than?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't his parents ask him where she was when he arrived home without her in her vehicle, considering she lived with them/him? This is all sorts of shady.

What makes you think they didn't?

Of course they did, which is why they hired a lawyer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't his parents ask him where she was when he arrived home without her in her vehicle, considering she lived with them/him? This is all sorts of shady.

How do you know they didn’t

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:i'm coming to this thread very late and not terribly knowledgeable, so I'm sure this has been covered but if the van was hers and he was found in possession of it, shouldn't/couldn't he have been arrested for auto theft and held that way?

Someone will come along and tell you that the van was not reported stolen, so it’s not a crime. That in the police video, he was the driver and she was okay with that, so it makes sense that he would have her car.

To the rest of us using common sense, it’s a major red flag for him to be in possession of her vehicle back in Florida, with her having gone missing.

Glad we have a rational, impartial legal system in place, instead of relying on emotions and misguided “common sense” of people like you.

It was once “common sense” to burn women as witches, based on perceived “red flags.”

Oh, I’m thrilled that this young man will be going through the legal system. I look forward to the legal system picking apart arguments like “she probably loaned him the car” and “he pretended to be her in a text to her mom because he was scared” and “he was the abuse victim and the missing woman was the abuser”.

If he faked her texts, there is likely video from the phone or cell service provider showing him writing the texts.

The only evidence he faked her texts is her own mom’s unsubstantiated hunches.

Lol WHAT

So could the “video” PP please clarify this comment? Do you believe that internet/cell service providers are filming us as we send texts? Thanks in advance.

It is not what I believe.

Siri / Alexa / any IOT device is always on and always recording.

What makes you believe internet video is and different? What about your phone’s facial recognition program?

Please explain when that camera is turned off (hint: it isn’t).

As to what is actually recorded - that information is classified.

[Anonymous]

haha, meant to add this link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Sherri_Papini

This is a totally different scenario.

Keith Papini "has been cooperative and even volunteered for a polygraph, which he passed." Boyfriend is this case is being the complete opposite.

She also disappeared in a inhabited area of California; Gabby was last possible location is in the wilderness of a national park.

This lady also showed up alive within 3 weeks. The last person to see Gabby alive is evading police and her family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her face is all over the news. She is not alive. There is one person who knows what happened. He is not cooperating with police and is instead being as silent as legally allowed.

This is not some normal "oh we broke up" bull shit.

The psychos who kill their pregnancy wives (Scott Peterson, Tyler Tessier) usually try to work with police at first to appear innocent. This guy went from "we are in love" to "I have a lawyer" VERY QUICKLY.

Also: she is still missing. She is not turning up alive. Please find me one case where 3 weeks later someone turned up alive when the boyfriend is acting shady AF. I'll wait.

Ok : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/local/pa-mom-who-disappeared-11-yrs-ago-is-found-alive-in-fla/1955145/%3Famp" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/local/pa-mom-who-disappeared-11-yrs-ago-is-found-alive-in-fla/1955145/%3Famp