DA vs ECNL vs everything else

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a different poster then the other person....and I'm stating fact...stop loving the club that doesn't love you. 7 out of 10 of you lovers are on the way out the door...and the man still got the pick of the litter.

You all are fighting for scraps

I guess the point is.....that is true at all DAs, and frankly all clubs. Most of us just accept that our kid could be the next out the door if she doesn't improve and stay at the top of her game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I would actually like to know how many kids are retained st the age group merger

From what I have heard 14 of the 19 03 players from this past season were retained on the 02/03 DA team for FCV

14 03 retained?

Only 18 can dress and play per game

So how many 02s were retained? 14 as well?

How many sit out per game? You got it. 10 players .

Sounds awesome

Just like ecnl, bottom half pays for top half to play.



22 on roster. All 02s that committed moved up to oldest team. 14 retained, 1 new kid, rest are 02s that didn't commit this year, 4 will sit until there are injuries. That stinks, but last I heard McLean 03s were at about 22 rostered and Loudoun ECNL were maybe even more than that. Just the way it goes. Bottom half always sits more at this level, what would you like, even play time at 16 and 17 years old? if so, DA and ECNL aren't for you

No. What I wanted was an answer. You provided the answer. Thank you.

I know how it goes. My child has played both. I'm asking questions to get real data so others on this board can see the realities.

[Anonymous]

That's a one time deal because the U16/U17 team is FCV hallmark team. Moving them all up is what saved the 03's.

Same will not be done in the future.

[Anonymous]

In fact, so many 03s moving up this year that it leaves very little room for the 04s next year.

14 03s moving up leaves room for 8 04s next year. Maybe less.

Even at 22 man roster, there are 4 kids unable to dress per game.

But I'm sure they will max out rosters at 30. So no need to fret.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blame you? Hahahaha! I understand the process. Now, move along.

Congrats. However, this board is just not for your entertainment. Even if you did spend your entire Thursday on it.

Peace

Oh I get it. You're that joker who thinks he knows who is posting on the other end, and that we are all the same poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blame you? Hahahaha! I understand the process. Now, move along.

Congrats. However, this board is just not for your entertainment. Even if you did spend your entire Thursday on it.

Peace

Oh I get it. You're that joker who thinks he knows who is posting on the other end, and that we are all the same poster.

The irony of this post is rich.

[Anonymous]

Is it ironic because you do know who everyone posting on here is, or is because we are all the same poster?

Disclosure: I don't think I'm either one of the people whose been involved in this conversation but maybe I'm wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In fact, so many 03s moving up this year that it leaves very little room for the 04s next year.

14 03s moving up leaves room for 8 04s next year. Maybe less.

Even at 22 man roster, there are 4 kids unable to dress per game.

But I'm sure they will max out rosters at 30. So no need to fret.

It's likely that at least a few of the 03s will commit over the course of this year or be close enough to committing in the fall of junior year that they will move up next year leaving more room for the 04 girls to make a combined team. Not the whole team, but probably half or so. A lot of talk at the DA meeting last month about the split for the U16 age group. I wouldn't expect it, but I wouldn't be surprised by it either. FCV hasn't maxed out a roster yet for DA, so 30 is funny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In fact, so many 03s moving up this year that it leaves very little room for the 04s next year.

14 03s moving up leaves room for 8 04s next year. Maybe less.

Even at 22 man roster, there are 4 kids unable to dress per game.

But I'm sure they will max out rosters at 30. So no need to fret.

It's likely that at least a few of the 03s will commit over the course of this year or be close enough to committing in the fall of junior year that they will move up next year leaving more room for the 04 girls to make a combined team. Not the whole team, but probably half or so. A lot of talk at the DA meeting last month about the split for the U16 age group. I wouldn't expect it, but I wouldn't be surprised by it either. FCV hasn't maxed out a roster yet for DA, so 30 is funny

30 won't happen. Same point I have been making all along. Half the 04 team is gone next year.

Repeat after me...

I pledge allegiance to the club......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In fact, so many 03s moving up this year that it leaves very little room for the 04s next year.

14 03s moving up leaves room for 8 04s next year. Maybe less.

Even at 22 man roster, there are 4 kids unable to dress per game.

But I'm sure they will max out rosters at 30. So no need to fret.

It's likely that at least a few of the 03s will commit over the course of this year or be close enough to committing in the fall of junior year that they will move up next year leaving more room for the 04 girls to make a combined team. Not the whole team, but probably half or so. A lot of talk at the DA meeting last month about the split for the U16 age group. I wouldn't expect it, but I wouldn't be surprised by it either. FCV hasn't maxed out a roster yet for DA, so 30 is funny

30 won't happen. Same point I have been making all along. Half the 04 team is gone next year.

Repeat after me...

I pledge allegiance to the club......

That is the point of the DA pyramid. Everyone knows it when they sign up. Don’t like it? Play ECNL. Lots of options now!!

[Anonymous]

As somebody who doesn't hold FCV in very high regard, let me compliment them on this rostering decision. By moving up committed 02s, they make room for players who would otherwise be let go from a DA team while also (I'm assuming) saving the committed players some significant money by not having to attend unnecessary showcase events. The only real downside I can see is if there are some uncommitted 01s/00s who may get less playing time but I would venture that those players will get plenty of time at whatever showcase event the team does attend.

Kudos to FCV (something I've never said before).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As somebody who doesn't hold FCV in very high regard, let me compliment them on this rostering decision. By moving up committed 02s, they make room for players who would otherwise be let go from a DA team while also (I'm assuming) saving the committed players some significant money by not having to attend unnecessary showcase events. The only real downside I can see is if there are some uncommitted 01s/00s who may get less playing time but I would venture that those players will get plenty of time at whatever showcase event the team does attend.

Kudos to FCV (something I've never said before).

That's not what happened.

Their hallmark team never broke up a couple years ago during the age change. Most of them are actually on the younger end of the spectrum. True U17s this year.

They don't have enough kids to form a competetive 18/19 group. So they moved those kids "up" and will make a run for a national championship in a otherwise weak age group across the board.

Save your "pat on the back"

[Anonymous]

Even if it's not completely altruistic, that doesn't change my opinion. It still sounds like everybody comes out a winner in the end - the 03s who get to stick around; the uncommitted 02s who get more time to shine in the prime recruiting age group; and the committed 02s and older kids who get a chance to compete for a national championship.

Having said that, until all the final rosters are released, I'm not sure I'd bet on the older FCV team to finish ahead of Spirit or Penn Fusion in their division

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In fact, so many 03s moving up this year that it leaves very little room for the 04s next year.

14 03s moving up leaves room for 8 04s next year. Maybe less.

Even at 22 man roster, there are 4 kids unable to dress per game.

But I'm sure they will max out rosters at 30. So no need to fret.

It's likely that at least a few of the 03s will commit over the course of this year or be close enough to committing in the fall of junior year that they will move up next year leaving more room for the 04 girls to make a combined team. Not the whole team, but probably half or so. A lot of talk at the DA meeting last month about the split for the U16 age group. I wouldn't expect it, but I wouldn't be surprised by it either. FCV hasn't maxed out a roster yet for DA, so 30 is funny

What were the downsides of the U16 split discussed at the meeting? With Frontier piloting it and the added pressure of ECNL, I would assume it would be a positive thing for the DA

[Anonymous]

Everything this club does is about maximizing their business income so their staff can make a living coaching youth soccer. Mergers and partnerships. Moving players up. Not telling them they'll be cut to try and get them to stay on a lower team. Starting new programs with DA in their name for 6 year olds. It's all about how they can add or retain revenue or save costs on fields.

It doesn't mean they don't develop players. Players learn every time they kick a ball no matter where they are. It doesn't mean they aren't good marketers or invest in paying well for successful coaches. It doesn't mean the coaches aren't doing their best to teach players and help them get college scholarships.

But it's a business first, second and third, and unfortunately the same can be said for almost every other club.