Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

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Anonymous wrote:We have literally since her everyday since the “meeting.” Doesn’t this belie the fact that she was doing this for privacy/to get away from the paps? We never saw her this much in the U.K.!




She was always going to be a public figure.

The difference is now she doesn’t have to deal with “news” articles calling her a primate and her baby a chimpanzee.

For nearly a decade, was photographed all the time as an actress, then she was photographed all the time as a princess, nobody thought moving back to Canada would result in less media coverage. Though, I will say she looks really happy to be far from the British press. Good for her and her family!


No news article called her baby a chimpanzee.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, it's pretty clear Meghan Markle wants attention. She was an actress, for god's sake! All actors have huge egos. I don't find that a problem per se. I don't care about her running away to Canada, that's fine with me. But the excuses given to defend her are somewhat petulant. She didn't receive any press that was nastier or more unflattering than any other royal has many times over. But she couldn't cope with it. She also didn't want to spend her life doing actual dull charitable things like sponsoring charities and sitting on the boards and doing all the tedious stuff. She just wants to flitter into a room of adoring poor people, have a bunch of photos taken, and then flitter back into her private chauffeured car and have no one criticize the shallowness of it. She wants to control how the press reports her (which is a big clue as to her entitled ego). But I think she's in for a rude surprise. Canada is not a place, methinks, where people warm to the concept of someone playing the grand lady and they have to kiss the ground she walked and not make fun of it.


It's Harry who can't cope with it. He saw what it did to his own mother. That you have a blank spot in your brain about this, when he's said it over and over and over and over, is frankly scary.


Oh please, no one cares about Harry. This thread is 274 pages long and it's ALL ABOUT THAT AUDACITY OF THAT PRETENTIOUS COLORED GIRL!!!


I’m going to have to call you out for being untruthful. Most posters who disagree with their actions, were very happy for them when they married. I know I was, as were my girlfriends who all also dvr’d the wedding. I’m white. Please do not play the race card and misconstrue the thoughts of the posters here. It’s very unfair and prevents thoughtful discussion and debate. We don’t have to agree, but we can be polite.


I'm not untruthful but I'm not about the drama so I'll be conciliatory and rephrase things a tad bit...

The thoughts of the posters here are divided into two sections:

1) Those who see Meghan as a poor victim.

and...

2) Those who see Meghan as a conniving bitch.

I'm sure you can agree with me on that.
And I'm sure you can agree with me that at the end of the day the fact still remains that no one truly gives a shit about Harry.
All the fascination revolves around her and the reason she is so fascinating is because...


I'll leave it there.
You know why.



You know, Wallis Warfield Simpson was hugely controversial, and caused a huge amount (for the day) of negative press.

Was she black?


Can you imagine how exponentially greater the controversy and negative press would have been if she were black?
Think about it.
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Anonymous wrote:We have literally since her everyday since the “meeting.” Doesn’t this belie the fact that she was doing this for privacy/to get away from the paps? We never saw her this much in the U.K.!


It’s intentional. She wants media attention—she just wants to control it. Now she can.


I still don’t understand what she’s doing now that she couldn’t do before?


The simple immediate answer is denying access to the British press and no longer participating in the ROTA system.

Future plans involve creating their own foundation (which they couldn’t do before) and working to generate an income (which they couldn’t do before.)

Those are the big differences.



What? They already had their own foundation. They were free to create it.

She still needs BRF's approval to generate income since members of the royal family are banned from that.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, it's pretty clear Meghan Markle wants attention. She was an actress, for god's sake! All actors have huge egos. I don't find that a problem per se. I don't care about her running away to Canada, that's fine with me. But the excuses given to defend her are somewhat petulant. She didn't receive any press that was nastier or more unflattering than any other royal has many times over. But she couldn't cope with it. She also didn't want to spend her life doing actual dull charitable things like sponsoring charities and sitting on the boards and doing all the tedious stuff. She just wants to flitter into a room of adoring poor people, have a bunch of photos taken, and then flitter back into her private chauffeured car and have no one criticize the shallowness of it. She wants to control how the press reports her (which is a big clue as to her entitled ego). But I think she's in for a rude surprise. Canada is not a place, methinks, where people warm to the concept of someone playing the grand lady and they have to kiss the ground she walked and not make fun of it.


It's Harry who can't cope with it. He saw what it did to his own mother. That you have a blank spot in your brain about this, when he's said it over and over and over and over, is frankly scary.


Oh please, no one cares about Harry. This thread is 274 pages long and it's ALL ABOUT THAT AUDACITY OF THAT PRETENTIOUS COLORED GIRL!!!


I’m going to have to call you out for being untruthful. Most posters who disagree with their actions, were very happy for them when they married. I know I was, as were my girlfriends who all also dvr’d the wedding. I’m white. Please do not play the race card and misconstrue the thoughts of the posters here. It’s very unfair and prevents thoughtful discussion and debate. We don’t have to agree, but we can be polite.

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People who simply cry “racism “ at any slightest criticism of Markle do a real disservice to those who suffer from actual racism.


I agree. I'm being pragmatic about this. Did Meghan receive some press that could be construed as race, ie making fun of her because of her biracial background? Yes.

But she also received a lot of press flak for reasons that have nothing to do with race. Lots of it. It had to do with, oh, say, seeming entitled, seeming self-absorbed, complaining that no one was asking about her feelings while on tour to the poorest countries in the world, taking public money for a fancy renovation and then running away to Canada, marrying into the royal family that has extensive traditions of duty and public obligations and then turning her back to it and all that.

If you don't understand why much of her negative attention has little to do with race but with other elements and behaviors then I'm not sure what more is left to be said because we're just going around in a ring of denials.

Look - the girl married into the British royal family. They threw her a massive fancy wedding with all the pomp and ceremony. They even allowed her to customize the wedding to make it more "diverse." If they were racist, it wouldn't have happened in the first place.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, it's pretty clear Meghan Markle wants attention. She was an actress, for god's sake! All actors have huge egos. I don't find that a problem per se. I don't care about her running away to Canada, that's fine with me. But the excuses given to defend her are somewhat petulant. She didn't receive any press that was nastier or more unflattering than any other royal has many times over. But she couldn't cope with it. She also didn't want to spend her life doing actual dull charitable things like sponsoring charities and sitting on the boards and doing all the tedious stuff. She just wants to flitter into a room of adoring poor people, have a bunch of photos taken, and then flitter back into her private chauffeured car and have no one criticize the shallowness of it. She wants to control how the press reports her (which is a big clue as to her entitled ego). But I think she's in for a rude surprise. Canada is not a place, methinks, where people warm to the concept of someone playing the grand lady and they have to kiss the ground she walked and not make fun of it.


It's Harry who can't cope with it. He saw what it did to his own mother. That you have a blank spot in your brain about this, when he's said it over and over and over and over, is frankly scary.


Oh please, no one cares about Harry. This thread is 274 pages long and it's ALL ABOUT THAT AUDACITY OF THAT PRETENTIOUS COLORED GIRL!!!


I’m going to have to call you out for being untruthful. Most posters who disagree with their actions, were very happy for them when they married. I know I was, as were my girlfriends who all also dvr’d the wedding. I’m white. Please do not play the race card and misconstrue the thoughts of the posters here. It’s very unfair and prevents thoughtful discussion and debate. We don’t have to agree, but we can be polite.


I'm not untruthful but I'm not about the drama so I'll be conciliatory and rephrase things a tad bit...

The thoughts of the posters here are divided into two sections:

1) Those who see Meghan as a poor victim.

and...

2) Those who see Meghan as a conniving bitch.

I'm sure you can agree with me on that.
And I'm sure you can agree with me that at the end of the day the fact still remains that no one truly gives a shit about Harry.
All the fascination revolves around her and the reason she is so fascinating is because...


I'll leave it there.
You know why.



You know, Wallis Warfield Simpson was hugely controversial, and caused a huge amount (for the day) of negative press.

Was she black?


Can you imagine how exponentially greater the controversy and negative press would have been if she were black?
Think about it.

Why do you have such a victim complex?
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, it's pretty clear Meghan Markle wants attention. She was an actress, for god's sake! All actors have huge egos. I don't find that a problem per se. I don't care about her running away to Canada, that's fine with me. But the excuses given to defend her are somewhat petulant. She didn't receive any press that was nastier or more unflattering than any other royal has many times over. But she couldn't cope with it. She also didn't want to spend her life doing actual dull charitable things like sponsoring charities and sitting on the boards and doing all the tedious stuff. She just wants to flitter into a room of adoring poor people, have a bunch of photos taken, and then flitter back into her private chauffeured car and have no one criticize the shallowness of it. She wants to control how the press reports her (which is a big clue as to her entitled ego). But I think she's in for a rude surprise. Canada is not a place, methinks, where people warm to the concept of someone playing the grand lady and they have to kiss the ground she walked and not make fun of it.


It's Harry who can't cope with it. He saw what it did to his own mother. That you have a blank spot in your brain about this, when he's said it over and over and over and over, is frankly scary.


Oh please, no one cares about Harry. This thread is 274 pages long and it's ALL ABOUT THAT AUDACITY OF THAT PRETENTIOUS COLORED GIRL!!!


I’m going to have to call you out for being untruthful. Most posters who disagree with their actions, were very happy for them when they married. I know I was, as were my girlfriends who all also dvr’d the wedding. I’m white. Please do not play the race card and misconstrue the thoughts of the posters here. It’s very unfair and prevents thoughtful discussion and debate. We don’t have to agree, but we can be polite.


I'm not untruthful but I'm not about the drama so I'll be conciliatory and rephrase things a tad bit...

The thoughts of the posters here are divided into two sections:

1) Those who see Meghan as a poor victim.

and...

2) Those who see Meghan as a conniving bitch.

I'm sure you can agree with me on that.
And I'm sure you can agree with me that at the end of the day the fact still remains that no one truly gives a shit about Harry.
All the fascination revolves around her and the reason she is so fascinating is because...


I'll leave it there.
You know why.



You know, Wallis Warfield Simpson was hugely controversial, and caused a huge amount (for the day) of negative press.

Was she black?


Can you imagine how exponentially greater the controversy and negative press would have been if she were black?
Think about it.

Why do you have such a victim complex?


Probably because I'm a white heterosexual man. We all feel under siege nowadays.
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Anonymous wrote:How do we know she still has protection? Without Harry, she’s back to a nobody and he’s not there. She does not deserve security. Such entitlement.


Of course she does!

Especially after the announcement, and after the way she was treated, the British Royal family would be facing a PR nightmare if anything happened to her. It would be worse than Diana. Before she left, they could hide behind “not knowing” what she was dealing with, but afterwards? There’s no excuse, they would be blamed and their brand would go down the toilet. It’s the type of damage that would take a generation to repair. Of course Meghan and Archie have protection. The queen is not an idiot.


Actually she and Harry would be facing a PR nightmare if the Queen or Prince Philip are hospitalized in the immediate future and the palace suggests (as they are highly skilled in doing without saying anything overt) that it is stress related due to H&M's troubles.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, it's pretty clear Meghan Markle wants attention. She was an actress, for god's sake! All actors have huge egos. I don't find that a problem per se. I don't care about her running away to Canada, that's fine with me. But the excuses given to defend her are somewhat petulant. She didn't receive any press that was nastier or more unflattering than any other royal has many times over. But she couldn't cope with it. She also didn't want to spend her life doing actual dull charitable things like sponsoring charities and sitting on the boards and doing all the tedious stuff. She just wants to flitter into a room of adoring poor people, have a bunch of photos taken, and then flitter back into her private chauffeured car and have no one criticize the shallowness of it. She wants to control how the press reports her (which is a big clue as to her entitled ego). But I think she's in for a rude surprise. Canada is not a place, methinks, where people warm to the concept of someone playing the grand lady and they have to kiss the ground she walked and not make fun of it.


It's Harry who can't cope with it. He saw what it did to his own mother. That you have a blank spot in your brain about this, when he's said it over and over and over and over, is frankly scary.


Oh please, no one cares about Harry. This thread is 274 pages long and it's ALL ABOUT THAT AUDACITY OF THAT PRETENTIOUS COLORED GIRL!!!


I’m going to have to call you out for being untruthful. Most posters who disagree with their actions, were very happy for them when they married. I know I was, as were my girlfriends who all also dvr’d the wedding. I’m white. Please do not play the race card and misconstrue the thoughts of the posters here. It’s very unfair and prevents thoughtful discussion and debate. We don’t have to agree, but we can be polite.


I'm not untruthful but I'm not about the drama so I'll be conciliatory and rephrase things a tad bit...

The thoughts of the posters here are divided into two sections:

1) Those who see Meghan as a poor victim.

and...

2) Those who see Meghan as a conniving bitch.

I'm sure you can agree with me on that.
And I'm sure you can agree with me that at the end of the day the fact still remains that no one truly gives a shit about Harry.
All the fascination revolves around her and the reason she is so fascinating is because...


I'll leave it there.
You know why.



You know, Wallis Warfield Simpson was hugely controversial, and caused a huge amount (for the day) of negative press.

Was she black?


Can you imagine how exponentially greater the controversy and negative press would have been if she were black?
Think about it.


No. Because unlike you I don't live in a world so obsessed with race that I cannot see how and why race is not the problem behind so many personal behaviors and actions. It is not the sword of damocles under which people exist. You can be black and a nasty piece of work. You can still be black and an entitled, narcissistic woman.

But you don't want to admit that, do you? To you, the only thing that matters is race.

In fact, I'm beginning to believe that the only reason some of you even care about Meghan Markle is because she's biracial. If she was a white girl you wouldn't give her the time of day. The world is filled with spoiled, self absorbed white girls just like Meghan except they don't have a black mother. You're only using Meghan Markle as a proxy of your self-imposed anger. You're using her just like those presses you deride used her to sell a few headlines, this time it was to sell the headlines inside your brain.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have literally since her everyday since the “meeting.” Doesn’t this belie the fact that she was doing this for privacy/to get away from the paps? We never saw her this much in the U.K.!




She was always going to be a public figure.

The difference is now she doesn’t have to deal with “news” articles calling her a primate and her baby a chimpanzee.

For nearly a decade, was photographed all the time as an actress, then she was photographed all the time as a princess, nobody thought moving back to Canada would result in less media coverage. Though, I will say she looks really happy to be far from the British press. Good for her and her family!


No news article called her baby a chimpanzee.[/quote]

I've heard this cited multiple times as the reason they need to leave, and I've wondered where it came from?
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PP, one commentator (from BBC I believe) tweeted a photo of a couple leading a chimpanzee captioned "royal family leaving the hospital". He was scorched, I mean it scorched by everyone, and sacked immediately.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, it's pretty clear Meghan Markle wants attention. She was an actress, for god's sake! All actors have huge egos. I don't find that a problem per se. I don't care about her running away to Canada, that's fine with me. But the excuses given to defend her are somewhat petulant. She didn't receive any press that was nastier or more unflattering than any other royal has many times over. But she couldn't cope with it. She also didn't want to spend her life doing actual dull charitable things like sponsoring charities and sitting on the boards and doing all the tedious stuff. She just wants to flitter into a room of adoring poor people, have a bunch of photos taken, and then flitter back into her private chauffeured car and have no one criticize the shallowness of it. She wants to control how the press reports her (which is a big clue as to her entitled ego). But I think she's in for a rude surprise. Canada is not a place, methinks, where people warm to the concept of someone playing the grand lady and they have to kiss the ground she walked and not make fun of it.


It's Harry who can't cope with it. He saw what it did to his own mother. That you have a blank spot in your brain about this, when he's said it over and over and over and over, is frankly scary.


Oh please, no one cares about Harry. This thread is 274 pages long and it's ALL ABOUT THAT AUDACITY OF THAT PRETENTIOUS COLORED GIRL!!!


I’m going to have to call you out for being untruthful. Most posters who disagree with their actions, were very happy for them when they married. I know I was, as were my girlfriends who all also dvr’d the wedding. I’m white. Please do not play the race card and misconstrue the thoughts of the posters here. It’s very unfair and prevents thoughtful discussion and debate. We don’t have to agree, but we can be polite.


I'm not untruthful but I'm not about the drama so I'll be conciliatory and rephrase things a tad bit...

The thoughts of the posters here are divided into two sections:

1) Those who see Meghan as a poor victim.

and...

2) Those who see Meghan as a conniving bitch.

I'm sure you can agree with me on that.
And I'm sure you can agree with me that at the end of the day the fact still remains that no one truly gives a shit about Harry.
All the fascination revolves around her and the reason she is so fascinating is because...


I'll leave it there.
You know why.



You know, Wallis Warfield Simpson was hugely controversial, and caused a huge amount (for the day) of negative press.

Was she black?


Can you imagine how exponentially greater the controversy and negative press would have been if she were black?
Think about it.


No. Because unlike you I don't live in a world so obsessed with race that I cannot see how and why race is not the problem behind so many personal behaviors and actions. It is not the sword of damocles under which people exist. You can be black and a nasty piece of work. You can still be black and an entitled, narcissistic woman.

But you don't want to admit that, do you? To you, the only thing that matters is race.

In fact, I'm beginning to believe that the only reason some of you even care about Meghan Markle is because she's biracial. If she was a white girl you wouldn't give her the time of day. The world is filled with spoiled, self absorbed white girls just like Meghan except they don't have a black mother. You're only using Meghan Markle as a proxy of your self-imposed anger. You're using her just like those presses you deride used her to sell a few headlines, this time it was to sell the headlines inside your brain.


Couldn’t have put it better myself.
If she wasn’t black this thread wouldn’t be 3 pages.
Can’t go against those age-old societal norms.
People lose it.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, one commentator (from BBC I believe) tweeted a photo of a couple leading a chimpanzee captioned "royal family leaving the hospital". He was scorched, I mean it scorched by everyone, and sacked immediately.


He was also quietly re-hired by the same network.

The British way of doing things - don't address the matter, just shuffle folks around until the problem seems to go away.
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Anonymous wrote:PP, one commentator (from BBC I believe) tweeted a photo of a couple leading a chimpanzee captioned "royal family leaving the hospital". He was scorched, I mean it scorched by everyone, and sacked immediately.


He was also quietly re-hired by the same network.

The British way of doing things - don't address the matter, just shuffle folks around until the problem seems to go away.


Properly so, since he shouldn't have been fired. Context is also important.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, it's pretty clear Meghan Markle wants attention. She was an actress, for god's sake! All actors have huge egos. I don't find that a problem per se. I don't care about her running away to Canada, that's fine with me. But the excuses given to defend her are somewhat petulant. She didn't receive any press that was nastier or more unflattering than any other royal has many times over. But she couldn't cope with it. She also didn't want to spend her life doing actual dull charitable things like sponsoring charities and sitting on the boards and doing all the tedious stuff. She just wants to flitter into a room of adoring poor people, have a bunch of photos taken, and then flitter back into her private chauffeured car and have no one criticize the shallowness of it. She wants to control how the press reports her (which is a big clue as to her entitled ego). But I think she's in for a rude surprise. Canada is not a place, methinks, where people warm to the concept of someone playing the grand lady and they have to kiss the ground she walked and not make fun of it.


It's Harry who can't cope with it. He saw what it did to his own mother. That you have a blank spot in your brain about this, when he's said it over and over and over and over, is frankly scary.


Oh please, no one cares about Harry. This thread is 274 pages long and it's ALL ABOUT THAT AUDACITY OF THAT PRETENTIOUS COLORED GIRL!!!


I’m going to have to call you out for being untruthful. Most posters who disagree with their actions, were very happy for them when they married. I know I was, as were my girlfriends who all also dvr’d the wedding. I’m white. Please do not play the race card and misconstrue the thoughts of the posters here. It’s very unfair and prevents thoughtful discussion and debate. We don’t have to agree, but we can be polite.


I'm not untruthful but I'm not about the drama so I'll be conciliatory and rephrase things a tad bit...

The thoughts of the posters here are divided into two sections:

1) Those who see Meghan as a poor victim.

and...

2) Those who see Meghan as a conniving bitch.

I'm sure you can agree with me on that.
And I'm sure you can agree with me that at the end of the day the fact still remains that no one truly gives a shit about Harry.
All the fascination revolves around her and the reason she is so fascinating is because...


I'll leave it there.
You know why.



You know, Wallis Warfield Simpson was hugely controversial, and caused a huge amount (for the day) of negative press.

Was she black?


Can you imagine how exponentially greater the controversy and negative press would have been if she were black?
Think about it.


No. Because unlike you I don't live in a world so obsessed with race that I cannot see how and why race is not the problem behind so many personal behaviors and actions. It is not the sword of damocles under which people exist. You can be black and a nasty piece of work. You can still be black and an entitled, narcissistic woman.

But you don't want to admit that, do you? To you, the only thing that matters is race.

In fact, I'm beginning to believe that the only reason some of you even care about Meghan Markle is because she's biracial. If she was a white girl you wouldn't give her the time of day. The world is filled with spoiled, self absorbed white girls just like Meghan except they don't have a black mother. You're only using Meghan Markle as a proxy of your self-imposed anger. You're using her just like those presses you deride used her to sell a few headlines, this time it was to sell the headlines inside your brain.


Actually I care about Meghan Markle because she was raised by a single mom, was the subject of unrelenting emotional and psychological abuse at the hands of her father and half-siblings, which played out in front of the entire world -- what a shitty and crazy way to treat a daughter, to treat a half-sister!! Crazy and brutal and disgusting -- and yet she prevailed. She succeeded despite all odds, and she succeeded spectacularly.

So that's why I'm in her corner, if you'd like to know.
Anonymous
The Duke of Sussex just hanging out with the German Minister of Defense. They're planning Invictus Games launch in 2022.

And the Sussex will be in Copenhagen this year for the 2020 Invictus Games.

It's going to be hilarious watching them country hop while skipping over one very obvious island to do so.



I wonder if the other royals will tour Canada since they are in residence though? In 2016 and 2017 the Cornwalls and the Cambridges were there. So its due for one now but with the Sussexs there it kind of makes sense for THEM to do the tour.

https://twitter.com/GermanEmbassy/status/1217855555949289472

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