Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

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Looks like the White House is going to fight this all the way. Kellyanne Conjob is calling it all a smear campaign.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that NYT buried their repudiation of Ramirez's story very deep in a story about Ford.

Bingo.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that NYT buried their repudiation of Ramirez's story very deep in a story about Ford.

They didn't repudiate it. The NYT and WaPo didn't run the Ramirez story because she wouldn't talk to them. She only talked to Jane Mayer and Ronan Farrow (maybe because they went to Yale too) at the New Yorker. So they got the story.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1044080093058850816

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As a woman, I'm incredulous and ashamed re: the gullibility of the average American woman. And the absolute deceitfulness and amorality of the liberal woman.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Kavanaugh will drop out before Thursday but my husband says no way. What do you all think?

It depends on the outcry. He ought to wiithdraw his name. He can’t sit on the court under this cloud. McConnell ought to resign over his handling of this. His conduct has been reprehensible.

Goalz

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Anonymous wrote:I think Kavanaugh will drop out before Thursday but my husband says no way. What do you all think?

It depends on the outcry. He ought to wiithdraw his name. He can’t sit on the court under this cloud. McConnell ought to resign over his handling of this. His conduct has been reprehensible.

Goalz

Feinstein should be the one to resign. She sat on the letter for almost 2 months. It is she who did not follow protocol.

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Anonymous wrote:As a woman, I'm incredulous and ashamed re: the gullibility of the average American woman. And the absolute deceitfulness and amorality of the liberal woman.

I agree 100%. And, if anything, these nasty tricks on the left have fired me up to vote. Seems to be having the same effect on others as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that NYT buried their repudiation of Ramirez's story very deep in a story about Ford.

They didn't repudiate it. The NYT and WaPo didn't run the Ramirez story because she wouldn't talk to them. She only talked to Jane Mayer and Ronan Farrow (maybe because they went to Yale too) at the New Yorker. So they got the story.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1044080093058850816

This does not quite square with the NYT saying that they contacted dozens of people and could not corroborate. They also seemed to have talked to classmates that told them Ramirez had contacted them asking if they recalled the incident and that she was uncertain that it was Kavanaugh.

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Anonymous wrote:As a woman, I'm incredulous and ashamed re: the gullibility of the average American woman. And the absolute deceitfulness and amorality of the liberal woman.

Ridiculous. If you are a woman surely similar incidents have happened to you? I can't even count the number of inappropriate and scary things that happened to me as a young woman. You really find this so hard to believe? That a privileged young partier thought he could do these things and it would be no big deal? It was just "rough horseplay", not like he raped someone. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:As a woman, I'm incredulous and ashamed re: the gullibility of the average American woman. And the absolute deceitfulness and amorality of the liberal woman.

+1M. It’s astounding.

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Anonymous wrote:As a woman, I'm incredulous and ashamed re: the gullibility of the average American woman. And the absolute deceitfulness and amorality of the liberal woman.

You have been successfully primed by your male relatives. Congratulations!

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Anonymous wrote:I think Kavanaugh will drop out before Thursday but my husband says no way. What do you all think?

It depends on the outcry. He ought to wiithdraw his name. He can’t sit on the court under this cloud. McConnell ought to resign over his handling of this. His conduct has been reprehensible.

Goalz

Feinstein should be the one to resign. She sat on the letter for almost 2 months. It is she who did not follow protocol.

Not a Feinstein fan but I'd give her the benefit of the doubt. We don't know what she did to try to verify the letter. I think I read it was dated July 30? So it took 6 weeks for us to hear about it? Meanwhile she may have been contacting lawyers, ethics offices, whatever to figure out the appropriate steps.

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Anonymous wrote:My conservative, often very old fashioned aunt who didn't like Obama (but also isn't a fan of Trump) reposed an "I stand with Christine Ford" post on Facebook. She really doesn't post/report much at all on social media, especially regarding feminist sorts of topics, but this to me speaks volumes about how women are feeling.

This is a big thing.

She believes Ford on what basis exactly?

Because women who have been in her position, know. Women just by being women, have often been in this position and are fed up with being the "boys will be boys" BS, or the dismissals, or the name smearing. We're fed the F up. Even the old, conservative aunties are tires of this sh!t.

As a woman who has been assaulted, I firmly believe in evaluating each case on an individual basis. Group guilt is a very dangerous path to go down.

Indeed.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:All of my facts are correct. we differ what those facts mean in determining Dr. Ford's mental state.

1. She [...] her.

Does anyone else get the idea that Mrs. Kavanaugh and her friends are some busy bees on these threads?

Because we bring evidence to contradict assertions people are making here?

Has it occurred to you that some people here want to safeguard the seriousness with which women's assault allegations are taken and feel that is undermined by high profile allegations as flimsy as Ford's?

Agree. I am appalled by these liberals who say we should believe her, regardless of any evidence, because women should be believed....because....well....

I bet these same women would sing a different tune if their husbands were accused.

And I bet YOU would sing a different tune if you or your daughter had been assaulted and no one believed you.

DP. If my daughter had been assaulted, I would counsel her to make a report IMMEDIATELY. Not to, you know, wait 35+ years and then expect to be believed.

Yes, great mother you are, if your daughter was so tramatized and begged you not to force her to make a report you'd force her to. Good going.

And when her accuser says no he didn't do it and no one believes your daughter, glad to know that you'd still be on the side of men who are publicly called out for their assaults.

I'd bet you'd have been one of the high school students who didn't stick up for this girl. I feel sorry for your daughter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/amber-wyatt-told-her-story-of-rape-this-is-how-the-world-responded/2018/09/21/ff11300a-bdda-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.130d8da2989b

Maybe feel sorry for your daughter who has a mother who encourages her weakness.

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Democrats talk a big game about “empowering” women when the reality is, they simply want them to remain victims. Reporting is just too traumatic! Vomit.

Context is important. In the 1980's as a teen, you just didn't report these sort of things, particularly when the accused's mother was the local prosecutor. Today, in the context of metoo and the conversations taking place between parents and their daughters all across the country, future victims hopefully will feel empowered.

Sure, perhaps a teenager (especially one who wasn't raped) at that time wouldn't have reported. But certainly, there is no reason she wouldn't have reported it as she grew older, went to college, started working, etc. Especially if it affected her life as much as she says it has. Thirty-six years later is too late.

Says who? She stepped up for her country.

That you actually believe this speaks volumes about your political partisanship.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Kavanaugh will drop out before Thursday but my husband says no way. What do you all think?

It depends on the outcry. He ought to wiithdraw his name. He can’t sit on the court under this cloud. McConnell ought to resign over his handling of this. His conduct has been reprehensible.

Goalz

Feinstein should be the one to resign. She sat on the letter for almost 2 months. It is she who did not follow protocol.

Not a Feinstein fan but I'd give her the benefit of the doubt. We don't know what she did to try to verify the letter. I think I read it was dated July 30? So it took 6 weeks for us to hear about it? Meanwhile she may have been contacting lawyers, ethics offices, whatever to figure out the appropriate steps.

The protocol would be to share it with the Chairman. She didn’t. She screwed up and as a result, this whole process has become a circus.
And, Dr. Ford contacted her congresswoman over the 4th of July weekend, so don’t believe that Feinstein didn’t know prior to July 30.
This should have all been investigated PRIOR to the hearings. Feinstein messed up.