“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:Even if the SCOTUS ruling comes out, there may be enough challenges to abortion bans that will prevent states from enacting such laws. This is from Florida where a synagogue says that in addition to violating privacy rights, the abortion ban is also a violation of the 1A religion clause.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/fl-ne-nsf-south-florida-jewish-congregation-challenges-abortion-law-20220614-t3n53g67cffzjhc25z6hklq6sq-story.html

The article only cites violation of religious freedom rights of Jewish women. But it seems that there would be an equal, if not more extreme, direct violation of religious freedom rights for Jewish doctors.

Abortion is not a Jewish tenet or common practice like circumcision and is not required to practice the religion. There is a difference between stating when they believe life begins and facilitating abortions. Furthermore Maimonides is a scholar but not a religious figure.

DP. The point is that the ruling does not allow exceptions for the health of the mother. In Judaism, the life of the mother takes priority over the life of the fetus because it is not yet living until birth. The absolute definition of life prior to birth and giving the fetus more right to life than the mother is a violation of the Jewish religion. The mother's right to a medical procedure that will preserve her life should be protected by the first amendment. So with no protection for the life of the mother, the Florida law is unconstitutional and should be overturned.

But the Dirty Six are Roman Catholic who believe that the life of babies trump the life of the mother because they are born without original sin. It is immaterial to these zealots that there are children at home who will now have no mother. The longer I live the more I am disgusted by organized religion and convinced it exists only to harm women

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Anonymous wrote:Even if the SCOTUS ruling comes out, there may be enough challenges to abortion bans that will prevent states from enacting such laws. This is from Florida where a synagogue says that in addition to violating privacy rights, the abortion ban is also a violation of the 1A religion clause.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/fl-ne-nsf-south-florida-jewish-congregation-challenges-abortion-law-20220614-t3n53g67cffzjhc25z6hklq6sq-story.html

The article only cites violation of religious freedom rights of Jewish women. But it seems that there would be an equal, if not more extreme, direct violation of religious freedom rights for Jewish doctors.

Abortion is not a Jewish tenet or common practice like circumcision and is not required to practice the religion. There is a difference between stating when they believe life begins and facilitating abortions. Furthermore Maimonides is a scholar but not a religious figure.

DP. The point is that the ruling does not allow exceptions for the health of the mother. In Judaism, the life of the mother takes priority over the life of the fetus because it is not yet living until birth. The absolute definition of life prior to birth and giving the fetus more right to life than the mother is a violation of the Jewish religion. The mother's right to a medical procedure that will preserve her life should be protected by the first amendment. So with no protection for the life of the mother, the Florida law is unconstitutional and should be overturned.

But the Dirty Six are Roman Catholic who believe that the life of babies trump the life of the mother because they are born without original sin. It is immaterial to these zealots that there are children at home who will now have no mother. The longer I live the more I am disgusted by organized religion and convinced it exists only to harm women

I am not a fan of religion either, but the last sentence is a bit far fetched. Religion was created to control society and make it less chaotic and dangerous. So it’s basis was both bad (control of many others by a few) and good (safer, more respectful society). Controlling women was a byproduct of the general control theme.

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They're not "clinics".

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Which Republicans stood up and denounced the more than TWO HUNDRED bombing and arsons at abortion clinics or the murders of doctors?

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Which Republicans stood up and denounced the more than TWO HUNDRED bombing and arsons at abortion clinics or the murders of doctors?

That was different, that was when Republicans wanted to make a point and IOKIYAR! Burning clinics, sabotaging them, vandalizing, stalking the children of doctors, stalking doctors, stalking nurses, kidnapping doctors and nurses, murdering them up close, murdering them from afar… it’s all good. It’s in the name of God, just like Jesus said! “Love one another… by murdering to get your own way!” /s

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They're not "clinics".

Ah... so it is all ok, then. Bomb away?

[Anonymous]

Jane's Revenge is planning a large, violent event. Should be interesting times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jane's Revenge is planning a large, violent event. Should be interesting times.

You’re a forced birther who exclusively reads right wing propaganda. No one cares what little made up tidbits you try to get people excited about. You have had literally nothing to say about decades of actual violence by the forced birthers. I’m sorry no one’s getting too excited about some red paint.

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Anonymous wrote:Jane's Revenge is planning a large, violent event. Should be interesting times.

You’re a forced birther who exclusively reads right wing propaganda. No one cares what little made up tidbits you try to get people excited about. You have had literally nothing to say about decades of actual violence by the forced birthers. I’m sorry no one’s getting too excited about some red paint.

Hope you are enjoying your membership to JR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jane's Revenge is planning a large, violent event. Should be interesting times.

Source?

[Anonymous]

No Dobbs opinion today. Next opinion release day is Thursday.

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile…

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if the SCOTUS ruling comes out, there may be enough challenges to abortion bans that will prevent states from enacting such laws. This is from Florida where a synagogue says that in addition to violating privacy rights, the abortion ban is also a violation of the 1A religion clause.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/fl-ne-nsf-south-florida-jewish-congregation-challenges-abortion-law-20220614-t3n53g67cffzjhc25z6hklq6sq-story.html

The article only cites violation of religious freedom rights of Jewish women. But it seems that there would be an equal, if not more extreme, direct violation of religious freedom rights for Jewish doctors.

Abortion is not a Jewish tenet or common practice like circumcision and is not required to practice the religion. There is a difference between stating when they believe life begins and facilitating abortions. Furthermore Maimonides is a scholar but not a religious figure.

DP. The point is that the ruling does not allow exceptions for the health of the mother. In Judaism, the life of the mother takes priority over the life of the fetus because it is not yet living until birth. The absolute definition of life prior to birth and giving the fetus more right to life than the mother is a violation of the Jewish religion. The mother's right to a medical procedure that will preserve her life should be protected by the first amendment. So with no protection for the life of the mother, the Florida law is unconstitutional and should be overturned.

But the Dirty Six are Roman Catholic who believe that the life of babies trump the life of the mother because they are born without original sin. It is immaterial to these zealots that there are children at home who will now have no mother. The longer I live the more I am disgusted by organized religion and convinced it exists only to harm women

I'm fine with religion, I'm just disgusted by conservative Catholics and evangelicals and conservatives of any religion who want to subvert the division of church and state.

I hope conservatives do adopt all the unwanted children and rape babies. See how it goes.

[Anonymous]

Religious people are always trying to impose their lifestyles on the rest of us. I'm not a fan.