Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

Plenty of room at New North + Coolidge, which are adjacent to each other. The 8th graders can be located at the high school in a separate wing. Once the combined schools are looking full, DCPS can re-evaluate the feeder pattern and potentially shift more kids to Roosevelt or Dunbar. But that would be years away. DCPS should be so lucky as to have Coolidge even close to capacity.

Since there is so much room Janney should feed into New North as well to ensure there is true diversity.

I didn’t realize Janney was in Ward 4.

So now schools can only be routed to middle in the ward they are in? Someone should tell someone Stoddert, Mann, and Eaton need to be routed to Deal immediately being that they are in Ward 3 and Hardy is Ward 2.

Great idea! Simple way to set some boundaries.

You still would have over-crowding. Bus Janney and Murch to McFarland and/or New North.

Not if Lafayette, all EOTP schools and all OOB are moved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

There were about as many kids coming from Eaton, and yet they got the boot from Deal, despite feeding there for eighty years.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

The baby is 8 months old, really? By the time that baby is ready for MS the demographics will be completely different.

And within 4 years, the mayor is likely no longer to be the mayor.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

The baby is 8 months old, really? By the time that baby is ready for MS the demographics will be completely different.

And within 4 years, the mayor is likely no longer to be the mayor.

But isn’t the next zoning mission in 2022?

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

Plenty of room at New North + Coolidge, which are adjacent to each other. The 8th graders can be located at the high school in a separate wing. Once the combined schools are looking full, DCPS can re-evaluate the feeder pattern and potentially shift more kids to Roosevelt or Dunbar. But that would be years away. DCPS should be so lucky as to have Coolidge even close to capacity.

Since there is so much room Janney should feed into New North as well to ensure there is true diversity.

I didn’t realize Janney was in Ward 4.

So now schools can only be routed to middle in the ward they are in? Someone should tell someone Stoddert, Mann, and Eaton need to be routed to Deal immediately being that they are in Ward 3 and Hardy is Ward 2.

Great idea! Simple way to set some boundaries.

You still would have over-crowding. Bus Janney and Murch to McFarland and/or New North.

Not if Lafayette, all EOTP schools and all OOB are moved.

You minus build a wall too.

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Since the redistricting the Lafayette neighborhood technically may be in Ward 4 but it certainly is not of Ward 4. Ward 4 has a checkered political history. It was part of Ward 3 for years and that is how most residents are oriented — west of the Park. It would be unthinkable if Lafayette no longer fed to Deal and Wilson.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the redistricting the Lafayette neighborhood technically may be in Ward 4 but it certainly is not of Ward 4. Ward 4 has a checkered political history. It was part of Ward 3 for years and that is how most residents are oriented — west of the Park. It would be unthinkable if Lafayette no longer fed to Deal and Wilson.

Change is hard but not impossible.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the redistricting the Lafayette neighborhood technically may be in Ward 4 but it certainly is not of Ward 4. Ward 4 has a checkered political history. It was part of Ward 3 for years and that is how most residents are oriented — west of the Park. It would be unthinkable if Lafayette no longer fed to Deal and Wilson.

Most of Ward 4 is not WOTP.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the redistricting the Lafayette neighborhood technically may be in Ward 4 but it certainly is not of Ward 4. Ward 4 has a checkered political history. It was part of Ward 3 for years and that is how most residents are oriented — west of the Park. It would be unthinkable if Lafayette no longer fed to Deal and Wilson.

Not for most of the other schools it wouldn’t

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Won’t there be Ward redistricting before 2022? The point about Wards is irrelevant at a detailed level. People are just looking for a shorthand for segregation across Rock Creek Park and some people are overlaying political lines that aren’t that relevant.

The key items here are what WOTP has (schools people want across much of DC) and what they lack (economic and racial diversity). People are trying to play cards like proximity, diversity, mobility, quality, etc., to justify getting or seeking or maintaining access to WOTP schools, and not everyone holds the same cards in a segregated city.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the redistricting the Lafayette neighborhood technically may be in Ward 4 but it certainly is not of Ward 4. Ward 4 has a checkered political history. It was part of Ward 3 for years and that is how most residents are oriented — west of the Park. It would be unthinkable if Lafayette no longer fed to Deal and Wilson.

Again, more than half of Hardy (located in ward 2) feeders come from ward 3. Wards don’t matter when zoning.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the redistricting the Lafayette neighborhood technically may be in Ward 4 but it certainly is not of Ward 4. Ward 4 has a checkered political history. It was part of Ward 3 for years and that is how most residents are oriented — west of the Park. It would be unthinkable if Lafayette no longer fed to Deal and Wilson.

Change is hard but not impossible.

NP here. It's ridiculous to rezone homes that families likely specifically bought for the school boundaries. It makes a lot more sense to end OOB feeder rights.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the redistricting the Lafayette neighborhood technically may be in Ward 4 but it certainly is not of Ward 4. Ward 4 has a checkered political history. It was part of Ward 3 for years and that is how most residents are oriented — west of the Park. It would be unthinkable if Lafayette no longer fed to Deal and Wilson.

Change is hard but not impossible.

NP here. It's ridiculous to rezone homes that families likely specifically bought for the school boundaries. It makes a lot more sense to end OOB feeder rights.

You didn’t get a contractual right to a school when you bought your home. Boundaries can and do change anytime.

Look at the boundary fight now in part of MCPS. It happens everywhere, as population patterns change, communities age/turnover.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the redistricting the Lafayette neighborhood technically may be in Ward 4 but it certainly is not of Ward 4. Ward 4 has a checkered political history. It was part of Ward 3 for years and that is how most residents are oriented — west of the Park. It would be unthinkable if Lafayette no longer fed to Deal and Wilson.

Change is hard but not impossible.

NP here. It's ridiculous to rezone homes that families likely specifically bought for the school boundaries. It makes a lot more sense to end OOB feeder rights.

This is what is done throughout the country on a regular basis. DC lacks the political will to do it due to historical patterns of de jure and defacto segregation and optics.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the redistricting the Lafayette neighborhood technically may be in Ward 4 but it certainly is not of Ward 4. Ward 4 has a checkered political history. It was part of Ward 3 for years and that is how most residents are oriented — west of the Park. It would be unthinkable if Lafayette no longer fed to Deal and Wilson.

Change is hard but not impossible.

NP here. It's ridiculous to rezone homes that families likely specifically bought for the school boundaries. It makes a lot more sense to end OOB feeder rights.

Well everyone is discussing throwing Shepherd out and I bought in the neighborhood because my child is at Deal.