Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

[Anonymous]

A new high school to suck in the Hardy and F-S kids would do it.

The big picture is: Wilson simply doesn't have enough square footage to take on Deal, Hardy, and its other feeders.

[Anonymous]

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And we haven't even gotten into the idea of teaming EOTP bilingual schools with WOTP monolingual schools as choice sets!

"Choice sets" is the idea that just won't die, isn't it. Is there anyone other than DCPS bureaucrats who don't think they're unworkable? The heart of the idea is tricking people into believing that some other school is just as good as their in-boundary school, when it isn't. Nobody looks at that idea and thinks it could work.

And when a ‘choice set’ doesn’t work out then DCPS moves to ‘directed’ (i.e., no) choice. Consider the J. Eaton experience, where for several years students were given the choice of Deal or Hardy, with DCPS apparently hoping that some number would choose Hardy over Deal. When not surprisingly no one did, DCPS eliminates the choice and engineered the switch of an emotive school to Hardy.

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And we haven't even gotten into the idea of teaming EOTP bilingual schools with WOTP monolingual schools as choice sets!

"Choice sets" is the idea that just won't die, isn't it. Is there anyone other than DCPS bureaucrats who don't think they're unworkable? The heart of the idea is tricking people into believing that some other school is just as good as their in-boundary school, when it isn't. Nobody looks at that idea and thinks it could work.

And when a ‘choice set’ doesn’t work out then DCPS moves to ‘directed’ (i.e., no) choice. Consider the J. Eaton experience, where for several years students were given the choice of Deal or Hardy, with DCPS apparently hoping that some number would choose Hardy over Deal. When not surprisingly no one did, DCPS eliminates the choice and engineered the switch of an emotive school to Hardy.

And it all seems to be working out fine. There was a multi-year phase in of the forced move to Hardy and it is working.

This needs to happen more. Rip the band-aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not silent. There is plenty of room for IB in upper NW with a few modifications:

End OOB feeder rights

End the right to attend a school past the end of the year when you move OOB, unless you get a lottery spot

Route Lafayette and Shepherd to New North and Coolidge

Route Oyster and Bancroft to MacFarland and Roosevelt

Make Adams additional bilingual elementary school space

End Fillmore as an arts center; bring art in-house at each school and use it for PK inclusion classes with a mix of kids with and without IEPs, with preference given to people IB for schools without PK3

End middle school at Francis-Stevens, expanding PK3-5 and sending all kids at the 6 schools zoned for Cardozo MS and FS to Cardozo. Give FS Elementary and Cardozo MS their own principals--no more sharing with high schools.

You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

And we haven't even gotten into the idea of teaming EOTP bilingual schools with WOTP monolingual schools as choice sets!

[Anonymous]

You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

The baby is 8 months old, really? By the time that baby is ready for MS the demographics will be completely different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

Plenty of room at New North + Coolidge, which are adjacent to each other. The 8th graders can be located at the high school in a separate wing. Once the combined schools are looking full, DCPS can re-evaluate the feeder pattern and potentially shift more kids to Roosevelt or Dunbar. But that would be years away. DCPS should be so lucky as to have Coolidge even close to capacity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

Plenty of room at New North + Coolidge, which are adjacent to each other. The 8th graders can be located at the high school in a separate wing. Once the combined schools are looking full, DCPS can re-evaluate the feeder pattern and potentially shift more kids to Roosevelt or Dunbar. But that would be years away. DCPS should be so lucky as to have Coolidge even close to capacity.

Since there is so much room Janney should feed into New North as well to ensure there is true diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

The baby is 8 months old, really? By the time that baby is ready for MS the demographics will be completely different.

By then Deal will be 2,000+ students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

Plenty of room at New North + Coolidge, which are adjacent to each other. The 8th graders can be located at the high school in a separate wing. Once the combined schools are looking full, DCPS can re-evaluate the feeder pattern and potentially shift more kids to Roosevelt or Dunbar. But that would be years away. DCPS should be so lucky as to have Coolidge even close to capacity.

Since there is so much room Janney should feed into New North as well to ensure there is true diversity.

I didn’t realize Janney was in Ward 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

Plenty of room at New North + Coolidge, which are adjacent to each other. The 8th graders can be located at the high school in a separate wing. Once the combined schools are looking full, DCPS can re-evaluate the feeder pattern and potentially shift more kids to Roosevelt or Dunbar. But that would be years away. DCPS should be so lucky as to have Coolidge even close to capacity.

Since there is so much room Janney should feed into New North as well to ensure there is true diversity.

I didn’t realize Janney was in Ward 4.

So now schools can only be routed to middle in the ward they are in? Someone should tell someone Stoddert, Mann, and Eaton need to be routed to Deal immediately being that they are in Ward 3 and Hardy is Ward 2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

Plenty of room at New North + Coolidge, which are adjacent to each other. The 8th graders can be located at the high school in a separate wing. Once the combined schools are looking full, DCPS can re-evaluate the feeder pattern and potentially shift more kids to Roosevelt or Dunbar. But that would be years away. DCPS should be so lucky as to have Coolidge even close to capacity.

Since there is so much room Janney should feed into New North as well to ensure there is true diversity.

I didn’t realize Janney was in Ward 4.

So now schools can only be routed to middle in the ward they are in? Someone should tell someone Stoddert, Mann, and Eaton need to be routed to Deal immediately being that they are in Ward 3 and Hardy is Ward 2.

Great idea! Simple way to set some boundaries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You guys kill me with the Shepherd argument. Shepherd is a school of 300 kids. Only two 5th grade classes. History shows only 25-30 students per year come from Shepherd. How are they contributing to the overcrowding? Choose your battles wisely. This looks like a white wash and I am white saying this.

You can't move Lafayette to Coolidge and not move Shepherd. And a middle school with feeders of Brightwood, Takoma, LaSalle-Backus, Shepherd, Lafayette, and Whittier would actually be pretty diverse: in 5-10 years, probably not that different from Hardy now, which is 51% black, 9% Asian, 20% white, and 18% Latino.

No room at New North middle, which will be collocates to Coolidge. The kids now in the feeder upper grades (all ECs) will fill it up.

Also let’s be real for a moment. The mayor now has a baby who will be IB for Shepherd. It isn’t being moved out of the feeder pattern anytime soon.

Plenty of room at New North + Coolidge, which are adjacent to each other. The 8th graders can be located at the high school in a separate wing. Once the combined schools are looking full, DCPS can re-evaluate the feeder pattern and potentially shift more kids to Roosevelt or Dunbar. But that would be years away. DCPS should be so lucky as to have Coolidge even close to capacity.

Since there is so much room Janney should feed into New North as well to ensure there is true diversity.

I didn’t realize Janney was in Ward 4.

So now schools can only be routed to middle in the ward they are in? Someone should tell someone Stoddert, Mann, and Eaton need to be routed to Deal immediately being that they are in Ward 3 and Hardy is Ward 2.

Great idea! Simple way to set some boundaries.

You still would have over-crowding. Bus Janney and Murch to McFarland and/or New North.