Camp Mystic reopening for summer 2026

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

But you are talking about real people that some of us know. Imagine that you knew these people. People are complex.

So why not stop reading if it’s so upsetting to you? Another interesting case study in bizarre behavior!

I'm not upset. The exclamation points implies that you are. At any point you can stop engaging if you're so bothered.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

But you are talking about real people that some of us know. Imagine that you knew these people. People are complex.

Please explain what this means. Since you are “not upset.”

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

But you are talking about real people that some of us know. Imagine that you knew these people. People are complex.

Please explain what this means. Since you are “not upset.”

Lol you just don't quit. It's not upsetting that you're talking about people I know. Just that the things they are saying such as they don't care about their kids, isn't true at all. Which you wouldn't possibly know, because you don't actually know them.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched some of the hearings. The investigator did a good job laying out the timeline and being mostly unbiased in her approach to the presentation and hearing. I send my kids to a camp here on the East Coast. It has a creek nearby. I've never once asked about flooding, and emergency plan, etc. I think the Camp Mystic tragedy has brought camp safety to national attention and that is good.

I don't think the Eastlands are monsters, but, by their own admission they did not have an evacuation plan (other than something maybe that existed only in Dick Eastland's head), and the culture created by Dick Eastland where he is the "boss" held other adults back from helping or even questioning his decisionmaking. Communication between the cabins and leadership was also lacking since no walkie talkies were kept in the cabins. Lack of a written out evacation plan and lack of communication devices contributed to the death of these campers, IMO. I would not send a kid to a camp they are operating.

I personally think if they had waited a year to announce reopening (and hired new operators to oversee day to day camp administration) there might not have been the same outcry.

They were encouraged by the families who want to return to reopen. The very people that one or two people are obsessing over. A lot of people wrote them letters begging them. It's all very weird, but no my circus and not my ponies and I think its doubtful any of this will even happen.

So what??

If 27 people eat at a restaurant and die of food poisoning, and 100 people write a letter to the chef "begging him to stay open," does that mean that the health board does not have an obligation to investigate and, finding criminal negligence, close the place down?

If a private school's or daycare center's actions or inactions resulted in 27 children's deaths, they would be shut down immediately in most, if not all states.

If a 100year flood wiped away the building - it would be a different outcome than you think. The question would be should that daycare be allowed to reopen in a safer zone - and the answer might be yes

Not if it were proven in litigation that the daycare owners evaded and omitted standard safety protocols. Which is what we’re learning now.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

But you are talking about real people that some of us know. Imagine that you knew these people. People are complex.

Please explain what this means. Since you are “not upset.”

Lol you just don't quit. It's not upsetting that you're talking about people I know. Just that the things they are saying such as they don't care about their kids, isn't true at all. Which you wouldn't possibly know, because you don't actually know them.

The point we are all trying to make is that their judgment is clouded. I’m sure they do care about their kids but they are making a terrible decision to place their trust in this camp.

Both things can be true. They care about their kids. This is a bad choice.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched some of the hearings. The investigator did a good job laying out the timeline and being mostly unbiased in her approach to the presentation and hearing. I send my kids to a camp here on the East Coast. It has a creek nearby. I've never once asked about flooding, and emergency plan, etc. I think the Camp Mystic tragedy has brought camp safety to national attention and that is good.

I don't think the Eastlands are monsters, but, by their own admission they did not have an evacuation plan (other than something maybe that existed only in Dick Eastland's head), and the culture created by Dick Eastland where he is the "boss" held other adults back from helping or even questioning his decisionmaking. Communication between the cabins and leadership was also lacking since no walkie talkies were kept in the cabins. Lack of a written out evacation plan and lack of communication devices contributed to the death of these campers, IMO. I would not send a kid to a camp they are operating.

I personally think if they had waited a year to announce reopening (and hired new operators to oversee day to day camp administration) there might not have been the same outcry.

They were encouraged by the families who want to return to reopen. The very people that one or two people are obsessing over. A lot of people wrote them letters begging them. It's all very weird, but no my circus and not my ponies and I think its doubtful any of this will even happen.

So what??

If 27 people eat at a restaurant and die of food poisoning, and 100 people write a letter to the chef "begging him to stay open," does that mean that the health board does not have an obligation to investigate and, finding criminal negligence, close the place down?

No one is saying that those things shouldn't happen to the camp.

That’s what the returning families think, eagerly handing over their kids and money to the same people responsible for last summer’s tragedy.

So what? It's not actually their call whether this happens or not.

Soooo, that’s what we are discussing. How bizarre it is that the families can’t see this. Hope that helps!

So discuss what happens to the camp, but don't trash the families. Is it really that difficult?

The two are related. And the most shocking part of the story is that anyone would want to return. That’s a huge part of the story.

Many would say that the dead kids and counselors are the "most shocking part", but I guess it's easier to target the people who survived.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

But you are talking about real people that some of us know. Imagine that you knew these people. People are complex.

DP. "It's complicated," is a terrible excuse/justification for anything. Especially when you're talking about how to keep kids safe.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

It doesn’t matter why anyone does or does not want to return. It’s not their decision as to whether or not the camp should be allowed to reopen as a public service business under current ownership.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched some of the hearings. The investigator did a good job laying out the timeline and being mostly unbiased in her approach to the presentation and hearing. I send my kids to a camp here on the East Coast. It has a creek nearby. I've never once asked about flooding, and emergency plan, etc. I think the Camp Mystic tragedy has brought camp safety to national attention and that is good.

I don't think the Eastlands are monsters, but, by their own admission they did not have an evacuation plan (other than something maybe that existed only in Dick Eastland's head), and the culture created by Dick Eastland where he is the "boss" held other adults back from helping or even questioning his decisionmaking. Communication between the cabins and leadership was also lacking since no walkie talkies were kept in the cabins. Lack of a written out evacation plan and lack of communication devices contributed to the death of these campers, IMO. I would not send a kid to a camp they are operating.

I personally think if they had waited a year to announce reopening (and hired new operators to oversee day to day camp administration) there might not have been the same outcry.

They were encouraged by the families who want to return to reopen. The very people that one or two people are obsessing over. A lot of people wrote them letters begging them. It's all very weird, but no my circus and not my ponies and I think its doubtful any of this will even happen.

So what??

If 27 people eat at a restaurant and die of food poisoning, and 100 people write a letter to the chef "begging him to stay open," does that mean that the health board does not have an obligation to investigate and, finding criminal negligence, close the place down?

No one is saying that those things shouldn't happen to the camp.

That’s what the returning families think, eagerly handing over their kids and money to the same people responsible for last summer’s tragedy.

So what? It's not actually their call whether this happens or not.

Soooo, that’s what we are discussing. How bizarre it is that the families can’t see this. Hope that helps!

The families don't read this board. They do their own thing. it's actually funny that people here are crapping their pants that they have no say or control over this situation.

We aren’t talking to the families, nor do we think the read this thread. We are having a discussion.

Mad that these families don't think like you isn't much of a discussion. The ball is in the camp's court now to see if they can resubmit their application and get their license renewed. it doesn't look likely.

The only person mad is you. This is just what we do - we discuss things like this. It’s been like this since the website began.

I've been on DCUM forever and I'd say the disgusting threads trashing victims started around 2021 with the deaths of the CA hikers.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

But you are talking about real people that some of us know. Imagine that you knew these people. People are complex.

Please explain what this means. Since you are “not upset.”

Lol you just don't quit. It's not upsetting that you're talking about people I know. Just that the things they are saying such as they don't care about their kids, isn't true at all. Which you wouldn't possibly know, because you don't actually know them.

The point we are all trying to make is that their judgment is clouded. I’m sure they do care about their kids but they are making a terrible decision to place their trust in this camp.

Both things can be true. They care about their kids. This is a bad choice.

Yes, and that would be a much more interesting conversation. How and why are otherwise good people who love their kids making such an irrational decision?

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

Again with the ignorance and hubris. You don't have all of the facts. You don't know them. You have not experienced what they went through. You don't know their motivations. Stop judging them and MYOFB.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

But you are talking about real people that some of us know. Imagine that you knew these people. People are complex.

Please explain what this means. Since you are “not upset.”

Lol you just don't quit. It's not upsetting that you're talking about people I know. Just that the things they are saying such as they don't care about their kids, isn't true at all. Which you wouldn't possibly know, because you don't actually know them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

But you are talking about real people that some of us know. Imagine that you knew these people. People are complex.

Please explain what this means. Since you are “not upset.”

Lol you just don't quit. It's not upsetting that you're talking about people I know. Just that the things they are saying such as they don't care about their kids, isn't true at all. Which you wouldn't possibly know, because you don't actually know them.

The point we are all trying to make is that their judgment is clouded. I’m sure they do care about their kids but they are making a terrible decision to place their trust in this camp.

Both things can be true. They care about their kids. This is a bad choice.

You don't know that. AT ALL. Worry about the decisions you make for your own kids. If you even have any.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

Again with the ignorance and hubris. You don't have all of the facts. You don't know them. You have not experienced what they went through. You don't know their motivations. Stop judging them and MYOFB.

This board is living rent free in your head. Time to step away. Maybe get some therapy even.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

It doesn’t matter why anyone does or does not want to return. It’s not their decision as to whether or not the camp should be allowed to reopen as a public service business under current ownership.

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