Camp Mystic reopening for summer 2026

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the arguing here.
It’s a big relief for those who were spared, that this won’t continue. It’s a small relief for the families of victims.
I think we agree on this.
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The only arguing is the lady who is mad when we say it’s crazy to send your kids back to the camp, knowing what we know now. I don’t think she’s a regular, just here for the Mystic stuff.

Why do you want to trash the families so vehemently? Some kind of cope for your own anxieties? You’re just a nasty person in general?

Because they are weaponizing their faith to suit their needs regardless of the impact it has on the families who lost children. They are appropriating the very thing these families are turning to for comfort in their darkest hour and the families who haven’t lost children are paying lip service to their pain and using Jesus as some kind of excuse. Let’s forget the safety stuff for a second. I don’t care how much my daughter loved any place. If her going to that place tore at the raw wounds of another, a parent who lost a child, I wouldn’t hesitate to withdraw her. Why on earth can’t these people make one small sacrifice in service of the souls of others? They are Christian in name and word but in practice, they are no different than anyone else, in fact they are worse - selfish and small and greedy.

The fact that the Eastlands continue to use the services of a lawyer who attacks these H27 parents in the name of God tells me all I need to know about who they truly are.

The Eastlands are horrible.

No need for you to be horrible too.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

Again with the ignorance and hubris. You don't have all of the facts. You don't know them. You have not experienced what they went through. You don't know their motivations. Stop judging them and MYOFB.

So funny. Those of us questioning the parents decisions to send their daughters to that camp clearly have more of the facts than you or they do.

No, you don't have more facts than the families who were actually there, FFS. You're mental.

The camp could have allowed the girls to walk 60 for 60 seconds up a hill and they would have lived. Instead they made them stay in their cabins and they died. I don’t need to “be there” to understand that this level of failure is criminal and has nothing to do with the river and everything to do with terrible risk assessment. No one should trust them with children ever again. It’s so painfully obvious to everyone not in the cult.

I truly DGAF about the camp -- it can stay closed.

That doesn't change the fact that you weren't there. You don't know more than families who were actually there. It's ridiculous for you to claim otherwise. They made a different decision than you think you would make in that situation.

I don't understand why you are so intent on tearing down these families.

May I point out, ma'am, that none of the "families" were actually there, either. If they were, I bet they wouldn't have let their daughter drown.

They know far more about it than you. Be thankful that you’re not in their position.

Clearly not. Many of them apparently didn’t even read or listen to the sworn testimony.

Right. You read an article. You heard the testimony. You clearly know more than these families who actually lived through this trauma.

Stop judging these families who have been through something you know nothing about.

The real trauma and pain is being experienced every single day by the families of the girls who died.

Don’t trash them either.

I'm not trashing anyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the arguing here.
It’s a big relief for those who were spared, that this won’t continue. It’s a small relief for the families of victims.
I think we agree on this.
?

The only arguing is the lady who is mad when we say it’s crazy to send your kids back to the camp, knowing what we know now. I don’t think she’s a regular, just here for the Mystic stuff.

Why do you want to trash the families so vehemently? Some kind of cope for your own anxieties? You’re just a nasty person in general?

Because they are weaponizing their faith to suit their needs regardless of the impact it has on the families who lost children. They are appropriating the very thing these families are turning to for comfort in their darkest hour and the families who haven’t lost children are paying lip service to their pain and using Jesus as some kind of excuse. Let’s forget the safety stuff for a second. I don’t care how much my daughter loved any place. If her going to that place tore at the raw wounds of another, a parent who lost a child, I wouldn’t hesitate to withdraw her. Why on earth can’t these people make one small sacrifice in service of the souls of others? They are Christian in name and word but in practice, they are no different than anyone else, in fact they are worse - selfish and small and greedy.

The fact that the Eastlands continue to use the services of a lawyer who attacks these H27 parents in the name of God tells me all I need to know about who they truly are.

The Eastlands are horrible.

No need for you to be horrible too.

What’s horrible about stating facts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the arguing here.
It’s a big relief for those who were spared, that this won’t continue. It’s a small relief for the families of victims.
I think we agree on this.
?

The only arguing is the lady who is mad when we say it’s crazy to send your kids back to the camp, knowing what we know now. I don’t think she’s a regular, just here for the Mystic stuff.

Why do you want to trash the families so vehemently? Some kind of cope for your own anxieties? You’re just a nasty person in general?

Because they are weaponizing their faith to suit their needs regardless of the impact it has on the families who lost children. They are appropriating the very thing these families are turning to for comfort in their darkest hour and the families who haven’t lost children are paying lip service to their pain and using Jesus as some kind of excuse. Let’s forget the safety stuff for a second. I don’t care how much my daughter loved any place. If her going to that place tore at the raw wounds of another, a parent who lost a child, I wouldn’t hesitate to withdraw her. Why on earth can’t these people make one small sacrifice in service of the souls of others? They are Christian in name and word but in practice, they are no different than anyone else, in fact they are worse - selfish and small and greedy.

The fact that the Eastlands continue to use the services of a lawyer who attacks these H27 parents in the name of God tells me all I need to know about who they truly are.

The Eastlands are horrible.

No need for you to be horrible too.

What’s horrible about stating facts?

Nothing at all. It's just that some people don't want to hear them.

[Anonymous]

Well thank goodness reason prevailed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the arguing here.
It’s a big relief for those who were spared, that this won’t continue. It’s a small relief for the families of victims.
I think we agree on this.
?

The only arguing is the lady who is mad when we say it’s crazy to send your kids back to the camp, knowing what we know now. I don’t think she’s a regular, just here for the Mystic stuff.

Why do you want to trash the families so vehemently? Some kind of cope for your own anxieties? You’re just a nasty person in general?

Because they are weaponizing their faith to suit their needs regardless of the impact it has on the families who lost children. They are appropriating the very thing these families are turning to for comfort in their darkest hour and the families who haven’t lost children are paying lip service to their pain and using Jesus as some kind of excuse. Let’s forget the safety stuff for a second. I don’t care how much my daughter loved any place. If her going to that place tore at the raw wounds of another, a parent who lost a child, I wouldn’t hesitate to withdraw her. Why on earth can’t these people make one small sacrifice in service of the souls of others? They are Christian in name and word but in practice, they are no different than anyone else, in fact they are worse - selfish and small and greedy.

The fact that the Eastlands continue to use the services of a lawyer who attacks these H27 parents in the name of God tells me all I need to know about who they truly are.

The Eastlands are horrible.

No need for you to be horrible too.

What’s horrible about stating facts?

You're conflating "facts" with a presumptive opinion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the shrieking harpy in here actually knew the families who send their kids to this camp they would rethink their very vocal stance. These extremely wealthy, right wing religious families don't spend a second of their day worrying about random elderly women in Virginia or thereabouts. Their kids will just go to another camp if it doesn't work out.

You’re dead wrong! We knew several children at that camp in that flood. One was a friend of my daughter’s a classmate. Their families care very much about others. These are not right wing people at all. Some are slightly right of center, some slightly left - none on the wings - ZERO! And they all care about others. Many families are still grieving, including mine. You should have compassion, especially as you are making assumptions about the compassion of others.

Be honest. The camp took a serious religious turn recently. These people are my friends, neighbors, and my kid's classmates.

They’re religious- true. It’s always been a religious camp. Are you saying religious people don’t deserve compassion if their children die? Are you saying religious people all had right political affiliations that don’t align with yours, therefore they don’t deserve compassion?

I'm saying their religion is a huge reason why they want to return to camp and that's why people here are struggling to understand their motivation. They have completely different world views. The returning campers aren't asking for anything from the people here, certainly not their compassion. I know returning campers and I certainly don't question them or discuss it with them. We are not the same, but it's their decision to make.

You keep bringing this up. We are not trying to discuss it with them. We are discussing it amongst ourselves. It is a bizarre, real-world case study in people acting adverse to their own interests.

Again with the ignorance and hubris. You don't have all of the facts. You don't know them. You have not experienced what they went through. You don't know their motivations. Stop judging them and MYOFB.

So funny. Those of us questioning the parents decisions to send their daughters to that camp clearly have more of the facts than you or they do.

No, you don't have more facts than the families who were actually there, FFS. You're mental.

The camp could have allowed the girls to walk 60 for 60 seconds up a hill and they would have lived. Instead they made them stay in their cabins and they died. I don’t need to “be there” to understand that this level of failure is criminal and has nothing to do with the river and everything to do with terrible risk assessment. No one should trust them with children ever again. It’s so painfully obvious to everyone not in the cult.

I truly DGAF about the camp -- it can stay closed.

That doesn't change the fact that you weren't there. You don't know more than families who were actually there. It's ridiculous for you to claim otherwise. They made a different decision than you think you would make in that situation.

I don't understand why you are so intent on tearing down these families.

May I point out, ma'am, that none of the "families" were actually there, either. If they were, I bet they wouldn't have let their daughter drown.

They know far more about it than you. Be thankful that you’re not in their position.

Clearly not. Many of them apparently didn’t even read or listen to the sworn testimony.

Right. You read an article. You heard the testimony. You clearly know more than these families who actually lived through this trauma.

Stop judging these families who have been through something you know nothing about.

The real trauma and pain is being experienced every single day by the families of the girls who died.

Don’t trash them either.

I'm not trashing anyone.

Great. Then let's hope that the trashy people don't start up again.

[Anonymous]

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Well thank goodness reason prevailed.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the arguing here.
It’s a big relief for those who were spared, that this won’t continue. It’s a small relief for the families of victims.
I think we agree on this.
?

The only arguing is the lady who is mad when we say it’s crazy to send your kids back to the camp, knowing what we know now. I don’t think she’s a regular, just here for the Mystic stuff.

Why do you want to trash the families so vehemently? Some kind of cope for your own anxieties? You’re just a nasty person in general?

Because they are weaponizing their faith to suit their needs regardless of the impact it has on the families who lost children. They are appropriating the very thing these families are turning to for comfort in their darkest hour and the families who haven’t lost children are paying lip service to their pain and using Jesus as some kind of excuse. Let’s forget the safety stuff for a second. I don’t care how much my daughter loved any place. If her going to that place tore at the raw wounds of another, a parent who lost a child, I wouldn’t hesitate to withdraw her. Why on earth can’t these people make one small sacrifice in service of the souls of others? They are Christian in name and word but in practice, they are no different than anyone else, in fact they are worse - selfish and small and greedy.

The fact that the Eastlands continue to use the services of a lawyer who attacks these H27 parents in the name of God tells me all I need to know about who they truly are.

The Eastlands are horrible.

No need for you to be horrible too.

What’s horrible about stating facts?

You're conflating "facts" with a presumptive opinion.

Yes, you definitely are doing exactly that.