Elon is coming for social security

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

WHY didn’t Democrats take on Social Security fraud a LONG time ago????

They frequently talked about it, and DID absolutely NOTHING.

Shame on you do nothing DEMOCRATS.


I’m sorry, what fraud? Please link to evidence of systemic fraud. Because actual auditors have found very little in the program. And the only evidence Elmo produced was his bogus claim tens of millions of 200 year olds were on play status. Ironically debunked when SSA pointed out he didn’t understand the coding and none of these people were in pay status.

So, please cite to your evidence of systemic fraud. Because I can’t prove a negative. And try though he may, Elmo hasn’t found it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

WHY didn’t Democrats take on Social Security fraud a LONG time ago????

They frequently talked about it, and DID absolutely NOTHING.

Shame on you do nothing DEMOCRATS.


When have Democrats talked about taking on (non-existent) SSA fraud? Please provide cites.
Anonymous
If rump and muck shut down SSA there will be a revolution and GOP Blood will flow like rivers through out the Halls of Congress. It ain't gonna happen.
Anonymous
Don't worry, the acting head of SSA is not going to turn it off.

Statement from Acting Commissioner Dudek about Temporary Restraining Order

“Today, the Court issued clarifying guidance about the Temporary Restraining Order (TRO) related to DOGE employees and DOGE activities at the Social Security Administration (SSA). Therefore, I am not shutting down the agency. President Trump supports keeping Social Security offices open and getting the right check to the right person at the right time. SSA employees and their work will continue under the TRO.”

https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/releases/2025/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery#2025-03-21
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Anonymous wrote:There’s no possible way the SS administration still exists in 4 years.


Hard disagree. Are you aware of how much power older people have in our political system? Stop trying to sow fear and undermine government.


Musk just eliminated a bunch of regional and field offices. And senior did almost nothing.

He eliminated tele-service, which will send an extra 85,000 people a week to SSA offices— in some case 150+ miles away after the FO closures. While at the same time cutting 7000 employees. Right now, the wait is 4-6 weeks for an appointment and many offices are double scheduled and run hours behind. If you add 85,000 people a week and cut staff, what do you think the wait time for an appointment will be by June? Not to mention people too frail to go into an office, people who have serious mental illnesses like erratic schizophrenics and nonverbal 7 year olds with autism, moms with newborns, the immunocompromised, institutionalized or hospitalized. People undergoing daily chemo following extensive abdominal surgery to remove metastatic cancer (immunocompromised, in significant pain and can’t miss a day of chemo to sit in a field office 2 hours away for 3-4 hours because staff is overwhelmed). If they can’t file online (and this is not tech savvy demographic and many seniors don’t have involved kids to help). Too bad, so sad.. Even though actual auditors found almost nothing fraud in the tele-system, which worked well and was not broken.

And yet, the seniors did almost nothing about the elimination of teleservice and the changes are happening in a week.

Please let us know where you are getting your information from - the last I saw that most tele-services are being left as is and only changes is around changing of direct deposit bank information.

Now Elmo is taking monthly benefits hostage. And this guy has shown a willingness to shoot hostages. And even if he doesn’t shut them down this time, they are a great hostage. There will be a next time. And it certainly doesn’t look like seniors are doing anything.

Boomers assume that because they are a powerful group, the government will give them what they want without them doing anything except voting. What’s new here Elmo and FOGE are very willing to hurt Republican demographics— many changes, like to SSA (which rely much more heavily of SDI/SSID), department of Ag, USAID (which buys from farmers), tarriffs, Medicaid cuts— harm red states and MAGA demos as much or more than blue states. Seniors, farmers, small businesses, and people just trying to put food on the table are all taking a beating. And Elmo doesn’t care, because Elmo and Trump and the oligarch class have a financial interest in seeing social security fail.

So when, exactly, are Boomers going to get off their demographically privileged a**es and exercise this power yo think they have? Because a lot of damage has already been done. And an enormous amount of damage to the system will be done to SSA by 2026. And much of what Musk is doing cannot simply be undone. By the time the system is so broken that checks are actually not deposited (which is coming as they push the only people who understand 1970s computer payment systems into retirement), there isn’t a fast or easy fix and the people who actually understand the system are gone. It would take years to recover and a large budget increase to get the people needed (and an average of 2-3 years on intensive mentoring and trading for them to understand SSA regulations and systems). So, they will privatize and the people who run the program will have a financial incentive to delay and deny claims, and will take a nice fee off the top for their troubles.

SSA administers its programs while spending less than 1% of benefits on staffing and overhead. And has an error rate well below 1%. It’s an enormous program that is actually well run. You think a for profit company will do that?

The Boomers are too busy watching Fox News, worrying about trans people in bathrooms (spoiler alert— if 1% of people are trans, them you regularly have trans people in public restrooms with you. You just aren't aware because they look female and we hope you aren’t staring ant their genitalia through a crack in the stall— which would make you the pervert, not them) and golfing to be bothered with exercising their power. Because they are entitled and lazy and have never had to do anything but bite in large numbers. And everyday the do nothing, they lose more and more power.

FAFO



Beginning 4/1, you can no longer apply for social security using tele-service, which is an incredibly popular and efficient way to apply. You must create an id.me account and do a double authentication process on a computer (and seniors are not always a tech savvy group and many don’t even have laptops or smart phones). And if you don’t have a computer, or the tech savvy, or the right forms or documents to set up and use I’d.me, you can no longer apply for benefits using tele-service. You must apply in person. After making an appointment. 2 months appt. And in rural areas driving 2-3 hours each way. Because every senior has car, and the license and the ability to make that drive or have someone take them. And then sit for hours and wait because SSA is about to be flooded.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/18/social-security-musk-trump-doge/

And the Boomers are shrugging and letting it happen. Politically powerful my a**.


You forgot to add they are also shutting down a bunch of the offices where people are supposed to go for these in person visits.


And firing 7000 employees while dealing with the influx of in person claims.

+1 There are millions of people turning 65. 1960 was one of the highest birth rate years ever.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There’s no possible way the SS administration still exists in 4 years.


Hard disagree. Are you aware of how much power older people have in our political system? Stop trying to sow fear and undermine government.


Musk just eliminated a bunch of regional and field offices. And senior did almost nothing.

He eliminated tele-service, which will send an extra 85,000 people a week to SSA offices— in some case 150+ miles away after the FO closures. While at the same time cutting 7000 employees. Right now, the wait is 4-6 weeks for an appointment and many offices are double scheduled and run hours behind. If you add 85,000 people a week and cut staff, what do you think the wait time for an appointment will be by June? Not to mention people too frail to go into an office, people who have serious mental illnesses like erratic schizophrenics and nonverbal 7 year olds with autism, moms with newborns, the immunocompromised, institutionalized or hospitalized. People undergoing daily chemo following extensive abdominal surgery to remove metastatic cancer (immunocompromised, in significant pain and can’t miss a day of chemo to sit in a field office 2 hours away for 3-4 hours because staff is overwhelmed). If they can’t file online (and this is not tech savvy demographic and many seniors don’t have involved kids to help). Too bad, so sad.. Even though actual auditors found almost nothing fraud in the tele-system, which worked well and was not broken.

And yet, the seniors did almost nothing about the elimination of teleservice and the changes are happening in a week.

Please let us know where you are getting your information from - the last I saw that most tele-services are being left as is and only changes is around changing of direct deposit bank information.

Now Elmo is taking monthly benefits hostage. And this guy has shown a willingness to shoot hostages. And even if he doesn’t shut them down this time, they are a great hostage. There will be a next time. And it certainly doesn’t look like seniors are doing anything.

Boomers assume that because they are a powerful group, the government will give them what they want without them doing anything except voting. What’s new here Elmo and FOGE are very willing to hurt Republican demographics— many changes, like to SSA (which rely much more heavily of SDI/SSID), department of Ag, USAID (which buys from farmers), tarriffs, Medicaid cuts— harm red states and MAGA demos as much or more than blue states. Seniors, farmers, small businesses, and people just trying to put food on the table are all taking a beating. And Elmo doesn’t care, because Elmo and Trump and the oligarch class have a financial interest in seeing social security fail.

So when, exactly, are Boomers going to get off their demographically privileged a**es and exercise this power yo think they have? Because a lot of damage has already been done. And an enormous amount of damage to the system will be done to SSA by 2026. And much of what Musk is doing cannot simply be undone. By the time the system is so broken that checks are actually not deposited (which is coming as they push the only people who understand 1970s computer payment systems into retirement), there isn’t a fast or easy fix and the people who actually understand the system are gone. It would take years to recover and a large budget increase to get the people needed (and an average of 2-3 years on intensive mentoring and trading for them to understand SSA regulations and systems). So, they will privatize and the people who run the program will have a financial incentive to delay and deny claims, and will take a nice fee off the top for their troubles.

SSA administers its programs while spending less than 1% of benefits on staffing and overhead. And has an error rate well below 1%. It’s an enormous program that is actually well run. You think a for profit company will do that?

The Boomers are too busy watching Fox News, worrying about trans people in bathrooms (spoiler alert— if 1% of people are trans, them you regularly have trans people in public restrooms with you. You just aren't aware because they look female and we hope you aren’t staring ant their genitalia through a crack in the stall— which would make you the pervert, not them) and golfing to be bothered with exercising their power. Because they are entitled and lazy and have never had to do anything but bite in large numbers. And everyday the do nothing, they lose more and more power.

FAFO



Beginning 4/1, you can no longer apply for social security using tele-service, which is an incredibly popular and efficient way to apply. You must create an id.me account and do a double authentication process on a computer (and seniors are not always a tech savvy group and many don’t even have laptops or smart phones). And if you don’t have a computer, or the tech savvy, or the right forms or documents to set up and use I’d.me, you can no longer apply for benefits using tele-service. You must apply in person. After making an appointment. 2 months appt. And in rural areas driving 2-3 hours each way. Because every senior has car, and the license and the ability to make that drive or have someone take them. And then sit for hours and wait because SSA is about to be flooded.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/18/social-security-musk-trump-doge/

And the Boomers are shrugging and letting it happen. Politically powerful my a**.


You forgot to add they are also shutting down a bunch of the offices where people are supposed to go for these in person visits.


And firing 7000 employees while dealing with the influx of in person claims.

+1 There are millions of people turning 65. 1960 was one of the highest birth rate years ever.


And there is very little fraud in social security.

Unless you count all the MAGAs in red states getting SSDI because they can't find jobs, or have had their bodies destroyed working in the trades.
Anonymous
And Lutnick Said his 90 year old Mom won’t be complaining about not getting her check one not only “fraudsters” do that. So stopping payments will show who the fraudsters are, he says. Billionaire speak — no idea how elderly survive on meager SS payments. THEY DON’T CARE for any is us people. Wake up!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There’s no possible way the SS administration still exists in 4 years.


Hard disagree. Are you aware of how much power older people have in our political system? Stop trying to sow fear and undermine government.


Musk just eliminated a bunch of regional and field offices. And senior did almost nothing.

He eliminated tele-service, which will send an extra 85,000 people a week to SSA offices— in some case 150+ miles away after the FO closures. While at the same time cutting 7000 employees. Right now, the wait is 4-6 weeks for an appointment and many offices are double scheduled and run hours behind. If you add 85,000 people a week and cut staff, what do you think the wait time for an appointment will be by June? Not to mention people too frail to go into an office, people who have serious mental illnesses like erratic schizophrenics and nonverbal 7 year olds with autism, moms with newborns, the immunocompromised, institutionalized or hospitalized. People undergoing daily chemo following extensive abdominal surgery to remove metastatic cancer (immunocompromised, in significant pain and can’t miss a day of chemo to sit in a field office 2 hours away for 3-4 hours because staff is overwhelmed). If they can’t file online (and this is not tech savvy demographic and many seniors don’t have involved kids to help). Too bad, so sad.. Even though actual auditors found almost nothing fraud in the tele-system, which worked well and was not broken.

And yet, the seniors did almost nothing about the elimination of teleservice and the changes are happening in a week.

Please let us know where you are getting your information from - the last I saw that most tele-services are being left as is and only changes is around changing of direct deposit bank information.

Now Elmo is taking monthly benefits hostage. And this guy has shown a willingness to shoot hostages. And even if he doesn’t shut them down this time, they are a great hostage. There will be a next time. And it certainly doesn’t look like seniors are doing anything.

Boomers assume that because they are a powerful group, the government will give them what they want without them doing anything except voting. What’s new here Elmo and FOGE are very willing to hurt Republican demographics— many changes, like to SSA (which rely much more heavily of SDI/SSID), department of Ag, USAID (which buys from farmers), tarriffs, Medicaid cuts— harm red states and MAGA demos as much or more than blue states. Seniors, farmers, small businesses, and people just trying to put food on the table are all taking a beating. And Elmo doesn’t care, because Elmo and Trump and the oligarch class have a financial interest in seeing social security fail.

So when, exactly, are Boomers going to get off their demographically privileged a**es and exercise this power yo think they have? Because a lot of damage has already been done. And an enormous amount of damage to the system will be done to SSA by 2026. And much of what Musk is doing cannot simply be undone. By the time the system is so broken that checks are actually not deposited (which is coming as they push the only people who understand 1970s computer payment systems into retirement), there isn’t a fast or easy fix and the people who actually understand the system are gone. It would take years to recover and a large budget increase to get the people needed (and an average of 2-3 years on intensive mentoring and trading for them to understand SSA regulations and systems). So, they will privatize and the people who run the program will have a financial incentive to delay and deny claims, and will take a nice fee off the top for their troubles.

SSA administers its programs while spending less than 1% of benefits on staffing and overhead. And has an error rate well below 1%. It’s an enormous program that is actually well run. You think a for profit company will do that?

The Boomers are too busy watching Fox News, worrying about trans people in bathrooms (spoiler alert— if 1% of people are trans, them you regularly have trans people in public restrooms with you. You just aren't aware because they look female and we hope you aren’t staring ant their genitalia through a crack in the stall— which would make you the pervert, not them) and golfing to be bothered with exercising their power. Because they are entitled and lazy and have never had to do anything but bite in large numbers. And everyday the do nothing, they lose more and more power.

FAFO



Beginning 4/1, you can no longer apply for social security using tele-service, which is an incredibly popular and efficient way to apply. You must create an id.me account and do a double authentication process on a computer (and seniors are not always a tech savvy group and many don’t even have laptops or smart phones). And if you don’t have a computer, or the tech savvy, or the right forms or documents to set up and use I’d.me, you can no longer apply for benefits using tele-service. You must apply in person. After making an appointment. 2 months appt. And in rural areas driving 2-3 hours each way. Because every senior has car, and the license and the ability to make that drive or have someone take them. And then sit for hours and wait because SSA is about to be flooded.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/18/social-security-musk-trump-doge/

And the Boomers are shrugging and letting it happen. Politically powerful my a**.


They're trying to stop fraud.

Nothing wrong with that.

Improvise-adapt-overcome.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There’s no possible way the SS administration still exists in 4 years.


Hard disagree. Are you aware of how much power older people have in our political system? Stop trying to sow fear and undermine government.


Musk just eliminated a bunch of regional and field offices. And senior did almost nothing.

He eliminated tele-service, which will send an extra 85,000 people a week to SSA offices— in some case 150+ miles away after the FO closures. While at the same time cutting 7000 employees. Right now, the wait is 4-6 weeks for an appointment and many offices are double scheduled and run hours behind. If you add 85,000 people a week and cut staff, what do you think the wait time for an appointment will be by June? Not to mention people too frail to go into an office, people who have serious mental illnesses like erratic schizophrenics and nonverbal 7 year olds with autism, moms with newborns, the immunocompromised, institutionalized or hospitalized. People undergoing daily chemo following extensive abdominal surgery to remove metastatic cancer (immunocompromised, in significant pain and can’t miss a day of chemo to sit in a field office 2 hours away for 3-4 hours because staff is overwhelmed). If they can’t file online (and this is not tech savvy demographic and many seniors don’t have involved kids to help). Too bad, so sad.. Even though actual auditors found almost nothing fraud in the tele-system, which worked well and was not broken.

And yet, the seniors did almost nothing about the elimination of teleservice and the changes are happening in a week.

Please let us know where you are getting your information from - the last I saw that most tele-services are being left as is and only changes is around changing of direct deposit bank information.

Now Elmo is taking monthly benefits hostage. And this guy has shown a willingness to shoot hostages. And even if he doesn’t shut them down this time, they are a great hostage. There will be a next time. And it certainly doesn’t look like seniors are doing anything.

Boomers assume that because they are a powerful group, the government will give them what they want without them doing anything except voting. What’s new here Elmo and FOGE are very willing to hurt Republican demographics— many changes, like to SSA (which rely much more heavily of SDI/SSID), department of Ag, USAID (which buys from farmers), tarriffs, Medicaid cuts— harm red states and MAGA demos as much or more than blue states. Seniors, farmers, small businesses, and people just trying to put food on the table are all taking a beating. And Elmo doesn’t care, because Elmo and Trump and the oligarch class have a financial interest in seeing social security fail.

So when, exactly, are Boomers going to get off their demographically privileged a**es and exercise this power yo think they have? Because a lot of damage has already been done. And an enormous amount of damage to the system will be done to SSA by 2026. And much of what Musk is doing cannot simply be undone. By the time the system is so broken that checks are actually not deposited (which is coming as they push the only people who understand 1970s computer payment systems into retirement), there isn’t a fast or easy fix and the people who actually understand the system are gone. It would take years to recover and a large budget increase to get the people needed (and an average of 2-3 years on intensive mentoring and trading for them to understand SSA regulations and systems). So, they will privatize and the people who run the program will have a financial incentive to delay and deny claims, and will take a nice fee off the top for their troubles.

SSA administers its programs while spending less than 1% of benefits on staffing and overhead. And has an error rate well below 1%. It’s an enormous program that is actually well run. You think a for profit company will do that?

The Boomers are too busy watching Fox News, worrying about trans people in bathrooms (spoiler alert— if 1% of people are trans, them you regularly have trans people in public restrooms with you. You just aren't aware because they look female and we hope you aren’t staring ant their genitalia through a crack in the stall— which would make you the pervert, not them) and golfing to be bothered with exercising their power. Because they are entitled and lazy and have never had to do anything but bite in large numbers. And everyday the do nothing, they lose more and more power.

FAFO



Beginning 4/1, you can no longer apply for social security using tele-service, which is an incredibly popular and efficient way to apply. You must create an id.me account and do a double authentication process on a computer (and seniors are not always a tech savvy group and many don’t even have laptops or smart phones). And if you don’t have a computer, or the tech savvy, or the right forms or documents to set up and use I’d.me, you can no longer apply for benefits using tele-service. You must apply in person. After making an appointment. 2 months appt. And in rural areas driving 2-3 hours each way. Because every senior has car, and the license and the ability to make that drive or have someone take them. And then sit for hours and wait because SSA is about to be flooded.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/18/social-security-musk-trump-doge/

And the Boomers are shrugging and letting it happen. Politically powerful my a**.


They're trying to stop fraud.

Nothing wrong with that.

Improvise-adapt-overcome.


They are actively trying to kill people that rely on social security. This is the least pro life administration in the history of the country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There’s no possible way the SS administration still exists in 4 years.


Hard disagree. Are you aware of how much power older people have in our political system? Stop trying to sow fear and undermine government.


Musk just eliminated a bunch of regional and field offices. And senior did almost nothing.

He eliminated tele-service, which will send an extra 85,000 people a week to SSA offices— in some case 150+ miles away after the FO closures. While at the same time cutting 7000 employees. Right now, the wait is 4-6 weeks for an appointment and many offices are double scheduled and run hours behind. If you add 85,000 people a week and cut staff, what do you think the wait time for an appointment will be by June? Not to mention people too frail to go into an office, people who have serious mental illnesses like erratic schizophrenics and nonverbal 7 year olds with autism, moms with newborns, the immunocompromised, institutionalized or hospitalized. People undergoing daily chemo following extensive abdominal surgery to remove metastatic cancer (immunocompromised, in significant pain and can’t miss a day of chemo to sit in a field office 2 hours away for 3-4 hours because staff is overwhelmed). If they can’t file online (and this is not tech savvy demographic and many seniors don’t have involved kids to help). Too bad, so sad.. Even though actual auditors found almost nothing fraud in the tele-system, which worked well and was not broken.

And yet, the seniors did almost nothing about the elimination of teleservice and the changes are happening in a week.

Please let us know where you are getting your information from - the last I saw that most tele-services are being left as is and only changes is around changing of direct deposit bank information.

Now Elmo is taking monthly benefits hostage. And this guy has shown a willingness to shoot hostages. And even if he doesn’t shut them down this time, they are a great hostage. There will be a next time. And it certainly doesn’t look like seniors are doing anything.

Boomers assume that because they are a powerful group, the government will give them what they want without them doing anything except voting. What’s new here Elmo and FOGE are very willing to hurt Republican demographics— many changes, like to SSA (which rely much more heavily of SDI/SSID), department of Ag, USAID (which buys from farmers), tarriffs, Medicaid cuts— harm red states and MAGA demos as much or more than blue states. Seniors, farmers, small businesses, and people just trying to put food on the table are all taking a beating. And Elmo doesn’t care, because Elmo and Trump and the oligarch class have a financial interest in seeing social security fail.

So when, exactly, are Boomers going to get off their demographically privileged a**es and exercise this power yo think they have? Because a lot of damage has already been done. And an enormous amount of damage to the system will be done to SSA by 2026. And much of what Musk is doing cannot simply be undone. By the time the system is so broken that checks are actually not deposited (which is coming as they push the only people who understand 1970s computer payment systems into retirement), there isn’t a fast or easy fix and the people who actually understand the system are gone. It would take years to recover and a large budget increase to get the people needed (and an average of 2-3 years on intensive mentoring and trading for them to understand SSA regulations and systems). So, they will privatize and the people who run the program will have a financial incentive to delay and deny claims, and will take a nice fee off the top for their troubles.

SSA administers its programs while spending less than 1% of benefits on staffing and overhead. And has an error rate well below 1%. It’s an enormous program that is actually well run. You think a for profit company will do that?

The Boomers are too busy watching Fox News, worrying about trans people in bathrooms (spoiler alert— if 1% of people are trans, them you regularly have trans people in public restrooms with you. You just aren't aware because they look female and we hope you aren’t staring ant their genitalia through a crack in the stall— which would make you the pervert, not them) and golfing to be bothered with exercising their power. Because they are entitled and lazy and have never had to do anything but bite in large numbers. And everyday the do nothing, they lose more and more power.

FAFO



Beginning 4/1, you can no longer apply for social security using tele-service, which is an incredibly popular and efficient way to apply. You must create an id.me account and do a double authentication process on a computer (and seniors are not always a tech savvy group and many don’t even have laptops or smart phones). And if you don’t have a computer, or the tech savvy, or the right forms or documents to set up and use I’d.me, you can no longer apply for benefits using tele-service. You must apply in person. After making an appointment. 2 months appt. And in rural areas driving 2-3 hours each way. Because every senior has car, and the license and the ability to make that drive or have someone take them. And then sit for hours and wait because SSA is about to be flooded.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/18/social-security-musk-trump-doge/

And the Boomers are shrugging and letting it happen. Politically powerful my a**.


They're trying to stop fraud.

Nothing wrong with that.

Improvise-adapt-overcome.


No they aren’t. Stop being so gullible
Anonymous
Look at who they hired ages 19-what 30? They have no memory of how America was before Trump 1. How hopeful we all were and how much we LOVED Obama. Remember the other recent quote some MAGA Trump employee made about firing ALL women and anyone over 40. They want 40+ gone and all the SS $$
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There’s no possible way the SS administration still exists in 4 years.


Hard disagree. Are you aware of how much power older people have in our political system? Stop trying to sow fear and undermine government.


Musk just eliminated a bunch of regional and field offices. And senior did almost nothing.

He eliminated tele-service, which will send an extra 85,000 people a week to SSA offices— in some case 150+ miles away after the FO closures. While at the same time cutting 7000 employees. Right now, the wait is 4-6 weeks for an appointment and many offices are double scheduled and run hours behind. If you add 85,000 people a week and cut staff, what do you think the wait time for an appointment will be by June? Not to mention people too frail to go into an office, people who have serious mental illnesses like erratic schizophrenics and nonverbal 7 year olds with autism, moms with newborns, the immunocompromised, institutionalized or hospitalized. People undergoing daily chemo following extensive abdominal surgery to remove metastatic cancer (immunocompromised, in significant pain and can’t miss a day of chemo to sit in a field office 2 hours away for 3-4 hours because staff is overwhelmed). If they can’t file online (and this is not tech savvy demographic and many seniors don’t have involved kids to help). Too bad, so sad.. Even though actual auditors found almost nothing fraud in the tele-system, which worked well and was not broken.

And yet, the seniors did almost nothing about the elimination of teleservice and the changes are happening in a week.

Please let us know where you are getting your information from - the last I saw that most tele-services are being left as is and only changes is around changing of direct deposit bank information.

Now Elmo is taking monthly benefits hostage. And this guy has shown a willingness to shoot hostages. And even if he doesn’t shut them down this time, they are a great hostage. There will be a next time. And it certainly doesn’t look like seniors are doing anything.

Boomers assume that because they are a powerful group, the government will give them what they want without them doing anything except voting. What’s new here Elmo and FOGE are very willing to hurt Republican demographics— many changes, like to SSA (which rely much more heavily of SDI/SSID), department of Ag, USAID (which buys from farmers), tarriffs, Medicaid cuts— harm red states and MAGA demos as much or more than blue states. Seniors, farmers, small businesses, and people just trying to put food on the table are all taking a beating. And Elmo doesn’t care, because Elmo and Trump and the oligarch class have a financial interest in seeing social security fail.

So when, exactly, are Boomers going to get off their demographically privileged a**es and exercise this power yo think they have? Because a lot of damage has already been done. And an enormous amount of damage to the system will be done to SSA by 2026. And much of what Musk is doing cannot simply be undone. By the time the system is so broken that checks are actually not deposited (which is coming as they push the only people who understand 1970s computer payment systems into retirement), there isn’t a fast or easy fix and the people who actually understand the system are gone. It would take years to recover and a large budget increase to get the people needed (and an average of 2-3 years on intensive mentoring and trading for them to understand SSA regulations and systems). So, they will privatize and the people who run the program will have a financial incentive to delay and deny claims, and will take a nice fee off the top for their troubles.

SSA administers its programs while spending less than 1% of benefits on staffing and overhead. And has an error rate well below 1%. It’s an enormous program that is actually well run. You think a for profit company will do that?

The Boomers are too busy watching Fox News, worrying about trans people in bathrooms (spoiler alert— if 1% of people are trans, them you regularly have trans people in public restrooms with you. You just aren't aware because they look female and we hope you aren’t staring ant their genitalia through a crack in the stall— which would make you the pervert, not them) and golfing to be bothered with exercising their power. Because they are entitled and lazy and have never had to do anything but bite in large numbers. And everyday the do nothing, they lose more and more power.

FAFO



Beginning 4/1, you can no longer apply for social security using tele-service, which is an incredibly popular and efficient way to apply. You must create an id.me account and do a double authentication process on a computer (and seniors are not always a tech savvy group and many don’t even have laptops or smart phones). And if you don’t have a computer, or the tech savvy, or the right forms or documents to set up and use I’d.me, you can no longer apply for benefits using tele-service. You must apply in person. After making an appointment. 2 months appt. And in rural areas driving 2-3 hours each way. Because every senior has car, and the license and the ability to make that drive or have someone take them. And then sit for hours and wait because SSA is about to be flooded.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/18/social-security-musk-trump-doge/

And the Boomers are shrugging and letting it happen. Politically powerful my a**.


They're trying to stop fraud.

Nothing wrong with that.

Improvise-adapt-overcome.


BS they are not trying to stop fraud stop watching lying FOX.

Show us recepts from SS about fraud that they found. You can not. Is their fraud sure but not massive like Musk is claiming.

There will be no SS coming for anyone including you dummy. Those are your monies and they are going to rob you blind.
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Anonymous wrote:There’s no possible way the SS administration still exists in 4 years.


Hard disagree. Are you aware of how much power older people have in our political system? Stop trying to sow fear and undermine government.


Musk just eliminated a bunch of regional and field offices. And senior did almost nothing.

He eliminated tele-service, which will send an extra 85,000 people a week to SSA offices— in some case 150+ miles away after the FO closures. While at the same time cutting 7000 employees. Right now, the wait is 4-6 weeks for an appointment and many offices are double scheduled and run hours behind. If you add 85,000 people a week and cut staff, what do you think the wait time for an appointment will be by June? Not to mention people too frail to go into an office, people who have serious mental illnesses like erratic schizophrenics and nonverbal 7 year olds with autism, moms with newborns, the immunocompromised, institutionalized or hospitalized. People undergoing daily chemo following extensive abdominal surgery to remove metastatic cancer (immunocompromised, in significant pain and can’t miss a day of chemo to sit in a field office 2 hours away for 3-4 hours because staff is overwhelmed). If they can’t file online (and this is not tech savvy demographic and many seniors don’t have involved kids to help). Too bad, so sad.. Even though actual auditors found almost nothing fraud in the tele-system, which worked well and was not broken.

And yet, the seniors did almost nothing about the elimination of teleservice and the changes are happening in a week.

Please let us know where you are getting your information from - the last I saw that most tele-services are being left as is and only changes is around changing of direct deposit bank information.

Now Elmo is taking monthly benefits hostage. And this guy has shown a willingness to shoot hostages. And even if he doesn’t shut them down this time, they are a great hostage. There will be a next time. And it certainly doesn’t look like seniors are doing anything.

Boomers assume that because they are a powerful group, the government will give them what they want without them doing anything except voting. What’s new here Elmo and FOGE are very willing to hurt Republican demographics— many changes, like to SSA (which rely much more heavily of SDI/SSID), department of Ag, USAID (which buys from farmers), tarriffs, Medicaid cuts— harm red states and MAGA demos as much or more than blue states. Seniors, farmers, small businesses, and people just trying to put food on the table are all taking a beating. And Elmo doesn’t care, because Elmo and Trump and the oligarch class have a financial interest in seeing social security fail.

So when, exactly, are Boomers going to get off their demographically privileged a**es and exercise this power yo think they have? Because a lot of damage has already been done. And an enormous amount of damage to the system will be done to SSA by 2026. And much of what Musk is doing cannot simply be undone. By the time the system is so broken that checks are actually not deposited (which is coming as they push the only people who understand 1970s computer payment systems into retirement), there isn’t a fast or easy fix and the people who actually understand the system are gone. It would take years to recover and a large budget increase to get the people needed (and an average of 2-3 years on intensive mentoring and trading for them to understand SSA regulations and systems). So, they will privatize and the people who run the program will have a financial incentive to delay and deny claims, and will take a nice fee off the top for their troubles.

SSA administers its programs while spending less than 1% of benefits on staffing and overhead. And has an error rate well below 1%. It’s an enormous program that is actually well run. You think a for profit company will do that?

The Boomers are too busy watching Fox News, worrying about trans people in bathrooms (spoiler alert— if 1% of people are trans, them you regularly have trans people in public restrooms with you. You just aren't aware because they look female and we hope you aren’t staring ant their genitalia through a crack in the stall— which would make you the pervert, not them) and golfing to be bothered with exercising their power. Because they are entitled and lazy and have never had to do anything but bite in large numbers. And everyday the do nothing, they lose more and more power.

FAFO



Beginning 4/1, you can no longer apply for social security using tele-service, which is an incredibly popular and efficient way to apply. You must create an id.me account and do a double authentication process on a computer (and seniors are not always a tech savvy group and many don’t even have laptops or smart phones). And if you don’t have a computer, or the tech savvy, or the right forms or documents to set up and use I’d.me, you can no longer apply for benefits using tele-service. You must apply in person. After making an appointment. 2 months appt. And in rural areas driving 2-3 hours each way. Because every senior has car, and the license and the ability to make that drive or have someone take them. And then sit for hours and wait because SSA is about to be flooded.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/18/social-security-musk-trump-doge/

And the Boomers are shrugging and letting it happen. Politically powerful my a**.


They're trying to stop fraud.

Nothing wrong with that.

Improvise-adapt-overcome.


What fraud have they found?
Anonymous
All the billionaires are libertarians. They don’t believe in a social safety net. They believe that taxes are theft. They believe that all their success is theirs and theirs alone.

Have you considered why Trump and the Republicans want to cut taxes while complaining about a large debt? Have you wondered why Trump keeps adding to the tax cuts - no tax on SS, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on first $150k - despite the debt?

Turns out, it’s simple. If everyone gets their tax cuts, there’s no money for a social safety net. When average people complain, Trump will tell them to save for it themselves because he just gave them back a whole lot of money. In essence, if you want tax cuts, you don’t want a social safety net. It’s that simple.
Anonymous
^^ Warren Buffett says he’d like to pay more taxes, and thinks the wealthy should pay more.
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