Elon is coming for social security

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no possible way the SS administration still exists in 4 years.

Hard disagree. Are you aware of how much power older people have in our political system? Stop trying to sow fear and undermine government.

Musk just eliminated a bunch of regional and field offices. And senior did almost nothing.

He eliminated tele-service, which will send an extra 85,000 people a week to SSA offices— in some case 150+ miles away after the FO closures. While at the same time cutting 7000 employees. Right now, the wait is 4-6 weeks for an appointment and many offices are double scheduled and run hours behind. If you add 85,000 people a week and cut staff, what do you think the wait time for an appointment will be by June? Not to mention people too frail to go into an office, people who have serious mental illnesses like erratic schizophrenics and nonverbal 7 year olds with autism, moms with newborns, the immunocompromised, institutionalized or hospitalized. People undergoing daily chemo following extensive abdominal surgery to remove metastatic cancer (immunocompromised, in significant pain and can’t miss a day of chemo to sit in a field office 2 hours away for 3-4 hours because staff is overwhelmed). If they can’t file online (and this is not tech savvy demographic and many seniors don’t have involved kids to help). Too bad, so sad.. Even though actual auditors found almost nothing fraud in the tele-system, which worked well and was not broken.

And yet, the seniors did almost nothing about the elimination of teleservice and the changes are happening in a week.

Please let us know where you are getting your information from - the last I saw that most tele-services are being left as is and only changes is around changing of direct deposit bank information.

Now Elmo is taking monthly benefits hostage. And this guy has shown a willingness to shoot hostages. And even if he doesn’t shut them down this time, they are a great hostage. There will be a next time. And it certainly doesn’t look like seniors are doing anything.

Boomers assume that because they are a powerful group, the government will give them what they want without them doing anything except voting. What’s new here Elmo and FOGE are very willing to hurt Republican demographics— many changes, like to SSA (which rely much more heavily of SDI/SSID), department of Ag, USAID (which buys from farmers), tarriffs, Medicaid cuts— harm red states and MAGA demos as much or more than blue states. Seniors, farmers, small businesses, and people just trying to put food on the table are all taking a beating. And Elmo doesn’t care, because Elmo and Trump and the oligarch class have a financial interest in seeing social security fail.

So when, exactly, are Boomers going to get off their demographically privileged a**es and exercise this power yo think they have? Because a lot of damage has already been done. And an enormous amount of damage to the system will be done to SSA by 2026. And much of what Musk is doing cannot simply be undone. By the time the system is so broken that checks are actually not deposited (which is coming as they push the only people who understand 1970s computer payment systems into retirement), there isn’t a fast or easy fix and the people who actually understand the system are gone. It would take years to recover and a large budget increase to get the people needed (and an average of 2-3 years on intensive mentoring and trading for them to understand SSA regulations and systems). So, they will privatize and the people who run the program will have a financial incentive to delay and deny claims, and will take a nice fee off the top for their troubles.

SSA administers its programs while spending less than 1% of benefits on staffing and overhead. And has an error rate well below 1%. It’s an enormous program that is actually well run. You think a for profit company will do that?

The Boomers are too busy watching Fox News, worrying about trans people in bathrooms (spoiler alert— if 1% of people are trans, them you regularly have trans people in public restrooms with you. You just aren't aware because they look female and we hope you aren’t staring ant their genitalia through a crack in the stall— which would make you the pervert, not them) and golfing to be bothered with exercising their power. Because they are entitled and lazy and have never had to do anything but bite in large numbers. And everyday the do nothing, they lose more and more power.

FAFO

Beginning 4/1, you can no longer apply for social security using tele-service, which is an incredibly popular and efficient way to apply. You must create an id.me account and do a double authentication process on a computer (and seniors are not always a tech savvy group and many don’t even have laptops or smart phones). And if you don’t have a computer, or the tech savvy, or the right forms or documents to set up and use I’d.me, you can no longer apply for benefits using tele-service. You must apply in person. After making an appointment. 2 months appt. And in rural areas driving 2-3 hours each way. Because every senior has car, and the license and the ability to make that drive or have someone take them. And then sit for hours and wait because SSA is about to be flooded.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/18/social-security-musk-trump-doge/

And the Boomers are shrugging and letting it happen. Politically powerful my a**.

They're trying to stop fraud.

Nothing wrong with that.

Improvise-adapt-overcome.

Teleservice has been audited by actual auditors. As opposed to Big Balls. And there is very, very little fraud. It’s a secure and efficient system. And I say that as someone who works for SSA. This is a solution in search of (and creating) a problem.

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Musk is degrading the call in services, closing in-person service centers and the website has now crashed 4 times in the last 10 days. They are going to kill social security without admitting they killed it be degrading the usability of the systems so much that it becomes inoperable.

[Anonymous]

Just in case anyone needs a reminder, Social Security - as old and slow as it may be at times - was working on January 19. The site was working, the checks were going out.

This is 100% on Muskrat and his merry band of incompetent, yet overly confident, teenage idiot savants. They ripped out the pipes and smeared poop on the walls like feral junkies and now the house is crashing down. Thank the GOP because they did this for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just in case anyone needs a reminder, Social Security - as old and slow as it may be at times - was working on January 19. The site was working, the checks were going out.

This is 100% on Muskrat and his merry band of incompetent, yet overly confident, teenage idiot savants. They ripped out the pipes and smeared poop on the walls like feral junkies and now the house is crashing down. Thank the GOP because they did this for you.

What a bunch of useless $hitstains.

[Anonymous]

“ The Social Security Administration website crashed four times in 10 days this month, blocking millions of retirees and disabled Americans from logging in to their online accounts because the servers were overloaded. In the field, office managers have resorted to answering phones at the front desk as receptionists because so many employees have been pushed out. But the agency no longer has a system to monitor customers’ experience with these services, because that office was eliminated as part of the cost-cutting efforts led by Elon Musk.
And the phones keep ringing. And ringing.
The federal agency that delivers $1.5 trillion a year in earned benefits to 73 million retired workers, their survivors and poor and disabled Americans is engulfed in crisis — further undermining its ability to provide reliable and quick service to vulnerable customers, according to internal documents and more than two dozen current and former agency employees and officials, customers and others who interact with Social Security.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/25/social-security-phones-doge-cuts/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F41c4f66%2F67e2d84d7347ac0732c0908f%2F596bc2b7ae7e8a44e7dcaab7%2F13%2F63%2F67e2d84d7347ac0732c0908f

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
“ The Social Security Administration website crashed four times in 10 days this month, blocking millions of retirees and disabled Americans from logging in to their online accounts because the servers were overloaded. In the field, office managers have resorted to answering phones at the front desk as receptionists because so many employees have been pushed out. But the agency no longer has a system to monitor customers’ experience with these services, because that office was eliminated as part of the cost-cutting efforts led by Elon Musk.
And the phones keep ringing. And ringing.
The federal agency that delivers $1.5 trillion a year in earned benefits to 73 million retired workers, their survivors and poor and disabled Americans is engulfed in crisis — further undermining its ability to provide reliable and quick service to vulnerable customers, according to internal documents and more than two dozen current and former agency employees and officials, customers and others who interact with Social Security.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/25/social-security-phones-doge-cuts/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F41c4f66%2F67e2d84d7347ac0732c0908f%2F596bc2b7ae7e8a44e7dcaab7%2F13%2F63%2F67e2d84d7347ac0732c0908f

For those without Wapo access

https://www.yahoo.com/news/long-waits-waves-calls-crashes-125611118.html

[Anonymous]

Depending on the time of day, a recorded message tells callers that their wait on hold will last more than 120 minutes or 180 minutes. Some report being on hold for four or five hours. A callback function was only available three out of 12 times when a reporter for The Post called the toll-free line last week, presumably because the queue that day was so long that the call would not be returned by close of business.

DOGE are so great and efficient. /s

[Anonymous]

Social security and Medicare are going to bankrupt us if they don’t get reduced in scope. I’d rather the cuts start now rather than later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Social security and Medicare are going to bankrupt us if they don’t get reduced in scope. I’d rather the cuts start now rather than later.

Are you here to waste time by forcing people to post again and again why this argument is stupid?

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Anonymous wrote:If it turns out that 10% or more of social security payments are fraudulent, wouldn’t canceling these payments massively strengthen the staying power of social security for the rest of us?

Of course. You don’t sound like a Democrat. They promote fraud and abuse of regular tax paying Americans.

America voted to drain the swamp.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If it turns out that 10% or more of social security payments are fraudulent, wouldn’t canceling these payments massively strengthen the staying power of social security for the rest of us?

Of course. You don’t sound like a Democrat. They promote fraud and abuse of regular tax paying Americans.

America voted to drain the swamp.

DOGE haven't been able to prove massive fraud (10%?). As a matter of fact, they had to take down their claims about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Social security and Medicare are going to bankrupt us if they don’t get reduced in scope. I’d rather the cuts start now rather than later.

It is our money and there are reasonable solutions to fix it. Crashing the system and leaving millions of Americans who paid into it left eating cat food is not the right one.

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Anonymous wrote:If it turns out that 10% or more of social security payments are fraudulent, wouldn’t canceling these payments massively strengthen the staying power of social security for the rest of us?

Of course. You don’t sound like a Democrat. They promote fraud and abuse of regular tax paying Americans.

America voted to drain the swamp.

There has not been a single allegation or referral for prosecution for fraud by DOGE. Not one.