Rebel forces advancing in Syria …

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Laws are for enemies.

Honestly, at this point the frankly antisemitic focus of international law and institutions has delegitimized it and hampered its ability to be persuasive to Israel at all (and of course persuasion is the only force available to international laws). The absurd condemnation of Israel protecting its border by the UN, and meanwhile Turkey is literally taking Aleppo to the north, is just the latest example. If you want Israel to listen to you, you need to drop the antisemitism.

Interesting. So you think Israel ought to be able to invade and annex territory at will?

Israel never cared about international law so let's not pretend this rose ever bloomed.

Antisemitism and holding Israel accountable for what it does are two different things. But I understand you would greatly prefer it if the charge of antisemitism precluded any accountability for Israel's actions at all.

Israel protecting the border and destroying weapons is 100% justified. Your focus on Israel (while ignoring Turkey which is *actually* capturing Syrian territory to the north) shows exactly what underlies your reasoning

Turkey doesn't pretend to be the moralest.

Israel can protect its border from inside the border.

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense?

There is no “Syria” right now. It’s a failed state and Israel is destroying the weapons and ships left behind.

And yeah, I’m so sure that Turkey “not pretending” is the reason you are hyper focused on Israel. Of course the trope of Jews being duplicitous is an ancient one.

More like Israel is making sure Syria fails.

Why does Israel want Syria to have no air defense?

Israel wants Syria in the hands of jihadis because then the US wont allow Syrian government to have chemical weapons, air defense, missile defense, or any military. The US will also obviously support Israeli annexation rather than a Jihadi government. This is why Israel is supporting the rebels.

It's their plan for demilitarization, probably stealing Syrias oil, planes, jets, arms, chemical weapons to use on Palestinians. I would understand somewhat if Assad striked Israel in the past just like Saddam but hes never done that. He liked Israel and some of his fathers loyalists were upset at him for being friends with Netanyahu in the past and not doing much about Israel controlling Golan Heights.

The biggest tell that the rebels are not Syrian is the burning of Assad's father Hafez al Assad's grave. This is almost certainly the act of Mossad chaos agents. No real Syrian is going to burn the tomb of a leader they considered paramount to Syria's development.
Israel is making it so obvious they are ISIS and Al Nusra hence why the rebels are always masked.

Omg. well, I’m glad you’re expressing your dumbsh*t antisemitic conspiracy theories so at least we can see them.

And not a one gets deleted or moderated out. If I weren't so addicted to this site...

I’m actually good with letting those posts stay up. it’s educational.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Its really not good for us at all if history is any indication. We "diminished" Russia in Afghanistan and got 9/11, forever wars and Patriot Act as a reward. We got rid of Sadam and Qaddafi and set the whole region on fire, many dead Americans, and swamped our European allies with destabilizing migration. Not really sure what we got in exchange for all that.

“We” got 9/11 because Israel and “our” support for genocide of the Palestinians.

We got 9/11 because certain Muslim sects are intractably antisemitic and anti American.

We got 9 11 because W refused to take heed of the former administration’s National Security warnings that ISIS was the greatest threat to the U.S. The Brits, Saudis, and many more met with W and confirmed he was making a dire mistake to declare war with Iraq. It only made Iran stronger.

But there’s more— Netanyahu knew how stupid W was and knew W wanted to avenge the assassination attempts on his daddy. Netanyhu convinced W that Iraq was the target. Dick Cheney was already a war monger.

W got to stand on a hill of 9 11 ashes, declare war on the wrong country, and soak up the halo effect. Look at me daddy!

And there’s more— Netanyhu said it was easy to manipulate U.S. presidents. He did nothing as an ally but thoughts and prayers. The collateral damage is devastating. Netanyahu and Hamas are the current war criminals. W prevented Ukraine’s NATO membership. Don’t be fooled. He voted yes and flipped to no. Russia Ukraine war is on him. His silence is deafening.

interesting take but do you see Democrats as blameless?

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Its really not good for us at all if history is any indication. We "diminished" Russia in Afghanistan and got 9/11, forever wars and Patriot Act as a reward. We got rid of Sadam and Qaddafi and set the whole region on fire, many dead Americans, and swamped our European allies with destabilizing migration. Not really sure what we got in exchange for all that.

“We” got 9/11 because Israel and “our” support for genocide of the Palestinians.

We got 9/11 because certain Muslim sects are intractably antisemitic and anti American.

We got 9 11 because W refused to take heed of the former administration’s National Security warnings that ISIS was the greatest threat to the U.S. The Brits, Saudis, and many more met with W and confirmed he was making a dire mistake to declare war with Iraq. It only made Iran stronger.

But there’s more— Netanyahu knew how stupid W was and knew W wanted to avenge the assassination attempts on his daddy. Netanyhu convinced W that Iraq was the target. Dick Cheney was already a war monger.

W got to stand on a hill of 9 11 ashes, declare war on the wrong country, and soak up the halo effect. Look at me daddy!

And there’s more— Netanyhu said it was easy to manipulate U.S. presidents. He did nothing as an ally but thoughts and prayers. The collateral damage is devastating. Netanyahu and Hamas are the current war criminals. W prevented Ukraine’s NATO membership. Don’t be fooled. He voted yes and flipped to no. Russia Ukraine war is on him. His silence is deafening.

interesting take but do you see Democrats as blameless?

No, of course not. Dems were a minority yes to war vote vs republicans. W Bush duped only some democrats into believing the administration would first exhaust diplomacy with the goal of getting Sadam Hussein to the bargaining table. That was a big lie.

The biggest lie was if we had to go to war it would be with a broad coalition of allies. There were no true allies. Netanyahu proved he would never be our ally and made a mockery of Americans who elected the dumbest president in history.

Here’s how the vote went: House passed the Authorization of the Use of Military Force (AUMF) on Iraq in October 2002.

The vote was 296 to 133. 215 Republicans and 81 Democrats voted for it. 126 Democrats, 6 Republicans, and 1 Independent (Sanders) voted against it.

Among the Senate yes votes were, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry.

Sanders raised hell on Biden. And I gotta say, he knew W was a liar and a fool.
Actually, like Trump, W was a hollow puppet who marched to the orders of others… Dick Cheney and Netanyahu.

John Kerry defended Biden:
“It was a mistake to have trusted them. But that was not voting for the war.”
“It was a string of lies.”
“It didn’t have to happen. It was a war of choice.”

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I think the Israelis will have a major problem attacking Turkey. They should concentrate on Egypt or Saudi next. Saudi would be the easiest and most profitable.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the Israelis will have a major problem attacking Turkey. They should concentrate on Egypt or Saudi next. Saudi would be the easiest and most profitable.

So no chance for peace?
Not ever

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Anonymous wrote:I think the Israelis will have a major problem attacking Turkey. They should concentrate on Egypt or Saudi next. Saudi would be the easiest and most profitable.

So no chance for peace?
Not ever

There is zero reason to think Israel has designs on Turkey, Saudi Arabia, or Egypt. If any of them attacked, that'd be another story, as was the case in 1948 when Israel was attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Libya, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon, defeating them all. The same thing happened in subsequent conflicts, resulting at times in Israeli forces taking control of Gaza, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and the Sinai Penninsula. None of those actions were unprovoked. After the Camp David Accords in 1978, Israel returned the Sinai Penninsula to Egypt, which recognized israel's right to exist, and the two countries established normal diplomatic relations. Neither Egypt nor Israel has been aggressive towards the other ever since. Barring any aggression from neighboring countries, the status quo is likely to prevail.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Its really not good for us at all if history is any indication. We "diminished" Russia in Afghanistan and got 9/11, forever wars and Patriot Act as a reward. We got rid of Sadam and Qaddafi and set the whole region on fire, many dead Americans, and swamped our European allies with destabilizing migration. Not really sure what we got in exchange for all that.

“We” got 9/11 because Israel and “our” support for genocide of the Palestinians.

We got 9/11 because certain Muslim sects are intractably antisemitic and anti American.

We got 9 11 because W refused to take heed of the former administration’s National Security warnings that ISIS was the greatest threat to the U.S. The Brits, Saudis, and many more met with W and confirmed he was making a dire mistake to declare war with Iraq. It only made Iran stronger.

But there’s more— Netanyahu knew how stupid W was and knew W wanted to avenge the assassination attempts on his daddy. Netanyhu convinced W that Iraq was the target. Dick Cheney was already a war monger.

W got to stand on a hill of 9 11 ashes, declare war on the wrong country, and soak up the halo effect. Look at me daddy!

And there’s more— Netanyhu said it was easy to manipulate U.S. presidents. He did nothing as an ally but thoughts and prayers. The collateral damage is devastating. Netanyahu and Hamas are the current war criminals. W prevented Ukraine’s NATO membership. Don’t be fooled. He voted yes and flipped to no. Russia Ukraine war is on him. His silence is deafening.

interesting take but do you see Democrats as blameless?

No, of course not. Dems were a minority yes to war vote vs republicans. W Bush duped only some democrats into believing the administration would first exhaust diplomacy with the goal of getting Sadam Hussein to the bargaining table. That was a big lie.

The biggest lie was if we had to go to war it would be with a broad coalition of allies. There were no true allies. Netanyahu proved he would never be our ally and made a mockery of Americans who elected the dumbest president in history.

Here’s how the vote went: House passed the Authorization of the Use of Military Force (AUMF) on Iraq in October 2002.

The vote was 296 to 133. 215 Republicans and 81 Democrats voted for it. 126 Democrats, 6 Republicans, and 1 Independent (Sanders) voted against it.

Among the Senate yes votes were, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry.

Sanders raised hell on Biden. And I gotta say, he knew W was a liar and a fool.
Actually, like Trump, W was a hollow puppet who marched to the orders of others… Dick Cheney and Netanyahu.

John Kerry defended Biden:
“It was a mistake to have trusted them. But that was not voting for the war.”
“It was a string of lies.”
“It didn’t have to happen. It was a war of choice.”

How do you factor in Obama’s actions in Syria and Lybia?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the Israelis will have a major problem attacking Turkey. They should concentrate on Egypt or Saudi next. Saudi would be the easiest and most profitable.

So no chance for peace?
Not ever

There is zero reason to think Israel has designs on Turkey, Saudi Arabia, or Egypt. If any of them attacked, that'd be another story, as was the case in 1948 when Israel was attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Libya, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon, defeating them all. The same thing happened in subsequent conflicts, resulting at times in Israeli forces taking control of Gaza, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and the Sinai Penninsula. None of those actions were unprovoked. After the Camp David Accords in 1978, Israel returned the Sinai Penninsula to Egypt, which recognized israel's right to exist, and the two countries established normal diplomatic relations. Neither Egypt nor Israel has been aggressive towards the other ever since. Barring any aggression from neighboring countries, the status quo is likely to prevail.

Do you realize how laughable you come across with this “Israel had no choice but to persist in violating international law for at least the past 57 years!” schtick?

[Anonymous]

Why is this thread about Israel? Why not be celebrating Syrians' liberation?

You people are so disgusting with your Israel obsession. I hope it keeps you up at night.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread about Israel? Why not be celebrating Syrians' liberation?

You people are so disgusting with your Israel obsession. I hope it keeps you up at night.

Because within 48 hours it was pretty clear that Syria wasn't "liberated." Its just being carved up by colonial powers and Islamic warlords with all that comes with it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Its really not good for us at all if history is any indication. We "diminished" Russia in Afghanistan and got 9/11, forever wars and Patriot Act as a reward. We got rid of Sadam and Qaddafi and set the whole region on fire, many dead Americans, and swamped our European allies with destabilizing migration. Not really sure what we got in exchange for all that.

“We” got 9/11 because Israel and “our” support for genocide of the Palestinians.

We got 9/11 because certain Muslim sects are intractably antisemitic and anti American.

We got 9 11 because W refused to take heed of the former administration’s National Security warnings that ISIS was the greatest threat to the U.S. The Brits, Saudis, and many more met with W and confirmed he was making a dire mistake to declare war with Iraq. It only made Iran stronger.

But there’s more— Netanyahu knew how stupid W was and knew W wanted to avenge the assassination attempts on his daddy. Netanyhu convinced W that Iraq was the target. Dick Cheney was already a war monger.

W got to stand on a hill of 9 11 ashes, declare war on the wrong country, and soak up the halo effect. Look at me daddy!

And there’s more— Netanyhu said it was easy to manipulate U.S. presidents. He did nothing as an ally but thoughts and prayers. The collateral damage is devastating. Netanyahu and Hamas are the current war criminals. W prevented Ukraine’s NATO membership. Don’t be fooled. He voted yes and flipped to no. Russia Ukraine war is on him. His silence is deafening.

interesting take but do you see Democrats as blameless?

No, of course not. Dems were a minority yes to war vote vs republicans. W Bush duped only some democrats into believing the administration would first exhaust diplomacy with the goal of getting Sadam Hussein to the bargaining table. That was a big lie.

The biggest lie was if we had to go to war it would be with a broad coalition of allies. There were no true allies. Netanyahu proved he would never be our ally and made a mockery of Americans who elected the dumbest president in history.

Here’s how the vote went: House passed the Authorization of the Use of Military Force (AUMF) on Iraq in October 2002.

The vote was 296 to 133. 215 Republicans and 81 Democrats voted for it. 126 Democrats, 6 Republicans, and 1 Independent (Sanders) voted against it.

Among the Senate yes votes were, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry.

Sanders raised hell on Biden. And I gotta say, he knew W was a liar and a fool.
Actually, like Trump, W was a hollow puppet who marched to the orders of others… Dick Cheney and Netanyahu.

John Kerry defended Biden:
“It was a mistake to have trusted them. But that was not voting for the war.”
“It was a string of lies.”
“It didn’t have to happen. It was a war of choice.”

How do you factor in Obama’s actions in Syria and Lybia?

DP
What Obama did in Libya was a disaster and he knows it.
In Syria his mistake was saying a red line
but not getting involved is not bad decision.
Republicans and Democrats are the never ending war parties.
I assume it is a good business model for weapon manufacturers and the American public are so gullible for manipulation.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread about Israel? Why not be celebrating Syrians' liberation?

You people are so disgusting with your Israel obsession. I hope it keeps you up at night.

Maybe because Israel has yet to return land in the Golan Heights region of Syria that it has unlawfully occupied in violation of international law for over five decades … ?

Or maybe because Israel has a track record of promoting instability in its neighboring countries, including Syria?

Or maybe because Israel was reported by CNN to have struck Syria nearly 500 times with missile attacks in the first two days since the Assad government fell?

Or maybe because … once a liar, always a liar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Its really not good for us at all if history is any indication. We "diminished" Russia in Afghanistan and got 9/11, forever wars and Patriot Act as a reward. We got rid of Sadam and Qaddafi and set the whole region on fire, many dead Americans, and swamped our European allies with destabilizing migration. Not really sure what we got in exchange for all that.

“We” got 9/11 because Israel and “our” support for genocide of the Palestinians.

We got 9/11 because certain Muslim sects are intractably antisemitic and anti American.

We got 9 11 because W refused to take heed of the former administration’s National Security warnings that ISIS was the greatest threat to the U.S. The Brits, Saudis, and many more met with W and confirmed he was making a dire mistake to declare war with Iraq. It only made Iran stronger.

But there’s more— Netanyahu knew how stupid W was and knew W wanted to avenge the assassination attempts on his daddy. Netanyhu convinced W that Iraq was the target. Dick Cheney was already a war monger.

W got to stand on a hill of 9 11 ashes, declare war on the wrong country, and soak up the halo effect. Look at me daddy!

And there’s more— Netanyhu said it was easy to manipulate U.S. presidents. He did nothing as an ally but thoughts and prayers. The collateral damage is devastating. Netanyahu and Hamas are the current war criminals. W prevented Ukraine’s NATO membership. Don’t be fooled. He voted yes and flipped to no. Russia Ukraine war is on him. His silence is deafening.

interesting take but do you see Democrats as blameless?

No, of course not. Dems were a minority yes to war vote vs republicans. W Bush duped only some democrats into believing the administration would first exhaust diplomacy with the goal of getting Sadam Hussein to the bargaining table. That was a big lie.

The biggest lie was if we had to go to war it would be with a broad coalition of allies. There were no true allies. Netanyahu proved he would never be our ally and made a mockery of Americans who elected the dumbest president in history.

Here’s how the vote went: House passed the Authorization of the Use of Military Force (AUMF) on Iraq in October 2002.

The vote was 296 to 133. 215 Republicans and 81 Democrats voted for it. 126 Democrats, 6 Republicans, and 1 Independent (Sanders) voted against it.

Among the Senate yes votes were, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry.

Sanders raised hell on Biden. And I gotta say, he knew W was a liar and a fool.
Actually, like Trump, W was a hollow puppet who marched to the orders of others… Dick Cheney and Netanyahu.

John Kerry defended Biden:
“It was a mistake to have trusted them. But that was not voting for the war.”
“It was a string of lies.”
“It didn’t have to happen. It was a war of choice.”

DP
Netanyahu wanted to start with Iran not Iraq.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread about Israel? Why not be celebrating Syrians' liberation?

You people are so disgusting with your Israel obsession. I hope it keeps you up at night.

Because within 48 hours it was pretty clear that Syria wasn't "liberated." Its just being carved up by colonial powers and Islamic warlords with all that comes with it.

lol well this entire thread is about Israel despite the fact that pretty much only Israel took actions consistent of limited defense of its own borders, and took other steps for the common good (destroying chemical weapons). Crickets about Turkey, US, Russia and Iran.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread about Israel? Why not be celebrating Syrians' liberation?

You people are so disgusting with your Israel obsession. I hope it keeps you up at night.

Maybe because Israel has yet to return land in the Golan Heights region of Syria that it has unlawfully occupied in violation of international law for over five decades … ?

Or maybe because Israel has a track record of promoting instability in its neighboring countries, including Syria?

Or maybe because Israel was reported by CNN to have struck Syria nearly 500 times with missile attacks in the first two days since the Assad government fell?

Or maybe because … once a liar, always a liar?

meanwhile Turkey is …