FCPS Early Release Mondays

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to hugely increase student absences. People are going to blow off these mondays, take long weekends, etc.

If the school doesn't treat the day like school, why should parents and students. These will be and should be treated as three day weekends

Why wouldn’t it be treated like a school day?

Why would it? Barely any time gets allocated to math or LA in a normal 2 hour early release and this shaves off another hour

Please show us a breakdown (with times) for what you think happens on ER days. Math and Lang Arts almost always occur, even if just an hour each.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to hugely increase student absences. People are going to blow off these mondays, take long weekends, etc.

If the school doesn't treat the day like school, why should parents and students. These will be and should be treated as three day weekends

+1. FCPS does not take the school calendar seriously. WTF thought that seven 1/7 day Mondays was a good idea, in addition to the existing 7 TW and multitude of religious holidays?
No wonder we cannot keep up with the rest of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can stay at school until school gets out — so this is not going to put any parents behind in terms of care. I’m not sure what the big deal is.

What about the instructional hours that are being taken away?

As long as the instructional hours still fall at equal to or more than 990 then there’s not a problem with the state.[/quot

I'd rather have quality instruction than more hours of poor instruction. FCPS has done a horrible job teaching kids to read for 20 years. The teachers need this training.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did someone already answer in this thread- it says taking some of the built in snow days. So if use up snow days for ES, does this mean end of year HS and MS could end earlier than ES?

No. I don’t know why they worded it that way, but they’d be using some of the extra hours they have. They still will have 180 days.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Yes. Enraged. At the fact that FCPS has so little respect for the parent body, their time, their preferences, and their resources, compared to even neighboring districts (who have the same regulations and took parent feedback into account).

Parents continue to vote here after their kids aren’t in school. I suspect the backlash will be longer-lived than this policy.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Teachers get priority placement in SACC, so I imagine very few. Those of us who will be expected to make arrangements for our own children at our own expense are having a different experience.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

How did you get from required state training to “teachers aren’t willing to work” in your first sentence? Do you know that teachers don’t make the calendar and don’t decide on which trainings are required?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Yes. Enraged. At the fact that FCPS has so little respect for the parent body, their time, their preferences, and their resources, compared to even neighboring districts (who have the same regulations and took parent feedback into account).

[b]Parents continue to vote here after their kids aren’t in school. I suspect the backlash will be longer-lived than this policy.

Why wouldn't they vote? As taxpayers, they have a right to vote regarding the schools that serve their community. They'd be foolish not to vote.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all [b]if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

How did you arrive at that statement?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

How did you get from required state training to “teachers aren’t willing to work” in your first sentence? Do you know that teachers don’t make the calendar and don’t decide on which trainings are required?

We can’t make a parent like PP happy. Teachers will always be lazy and entitled, and they’ll always be at fault for every district decision.

PP is welcome to go private. Having taught in both, I’m already aware that PP won’t like what she’ll get from a private school either. I had just as many calendar interruptions there, but let’s allow PP to figure that out for herself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did someone already answer in this thread- it says taking some of the built in snow days. So if use up snow days for ES, does this mean end of year HS and MS could end earlier than ES?

No. I don’t know why they worded it that way, but they’d be using some of the extra hours they have. They still will have 180 days.

Actually it could result in extra days added to end of year because taking away some of the built in snow days. FCPS is banking on light to no snow again this year and if that happens, no issue. If big snow and use up the snow days, yes, days will have to be added to calendar.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day[b].

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

How did you get from required state training to “teachers aren’t willing to work” in your first sentence? Do you know that teachers don’t make the calendar and don’t decide on which trainings are required?

We can’t make a parent like PP happy. Teachers will always be lazy and entitled, and they’ll always be at fault for every district decision.

PP is welcome to go private. Having taught in both, I’m already aware that PP won’t like what she’ll get from a private school either. I had just as many calendar interruptions there, but let’s allow PP to figure that out for herself.

This is exactly why school vouchers are needed. We need more competition between schools. As it stands now, FCPS has zero impetus to improve offerings because there is no competition. It's the government/public sphere lag. Let's bring some private/capital competition to this to force change. Public institutions get away with so damn much because families cannot go anywhere.