Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I assume she has all the original information with the names of our children. I say that because I got the letter today. I don't see why this isn't criminal. Like, if the bank gives you too much money, and you keep it, isn't that stealing? Callie, I hope you're reading this.

Her website is still up and running with all its data. How is it not shut down? I am ready to take legal action against her.

what "data" are you seeing on the website?

There is no data on her website. But there is a poster/posters repeatedly posting here that the data is available on Callie’s site to freak out parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I assume she has all the original information with the names of our children. I say that because I got the letter today. I don't see why this isn't criminal. Like, if the bank gives you too much money, and you keep it, isn't that stealing? Callie, I hope you're reading this.

Her website is still up and running with all its data. How is it not shut down? I am ready to take legal action against her.

what "data" are you seeing on the website?

There is no data on her website. But there is a poster/posters repeatedly posting here that the data is available on Callie’s site to freak out parents.

This is confirmed by Michelle Reid. She is the superintendent for those who want to deny that.0

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume she has all the original information with the names of our children. I say that because I got the letter today. I don't see why this isn't criminal. Like, if the bank gives you too much money, and you keep it, isn't that stealing? Callie, I hope you're reading this.

Her website is still up and running with all its data. How is it not shut down? I am ready to take legal action against her.

what "data" are you seeing on the website?

There is no data on her website. But there is a poster/posters repeatedly posting here that the data is available on Callie’s site to freak out parents.

This is confirmed by Michelle Reid. She is the superintendent for those who want to deny that.0

Prove where it is posted on Callie’s website.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume she has all the original information with the names of our children. I say that because I got the letter today. I don't see why this isn't criminal. Like, if the bank gives you too much money, and you keep it, isn't that stealing? Callie, I hope you're reading this.

Her website is still up and running with all its data. How is it not shut down? I am ready to take legal action against her.

what "data" are you seeing on the website?

There is no data on her website. But there is a poster/posters repeatedly posting here that the data is available on Callie’s site to freak out parents.

This is confirmed by Michelle Reid. She is the superintendent for those who want to deny that.0

Prove where it is posted on Callie’s website.

It’s not. Superintendent Reid confirmed today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume she has all the original information with the names of our children. I say that because I got the letter today. I don't see why this isn't criminal. Like, if the bank gives you too much money, and you keep it, isn't that stealing? Callie, I hope you're reading this.

Her website is still up and running with all its data. How is it not shut down? I am ready to take legal action against her.

what "data" are you seeing on the website?

There is no data on her website. But there is a poster/posters repeatedly posting here that the data is available on Callie’s site to freak out parents.

I'm not that poster. There is redacted data on her website and on the journalist article, but I agree that there is no evidence that she has publicly posted data with kids' names online--whether it's identifiable in any other way I don't know.
What freaks me out is not that it's online, but that she inadvertently downloaded digital data with personal information of 35k kids that she has decided to hold onto and no one has no idea what she plans to do with it and who she's shared it with. So far from what I can understand from what she wrote it and the articles about it seems that she's at least shared it with a journalist and the Goldwater Institute lawyer guy. We also don't know where she's storing it--is it in cloud storage? Is it secure? The wording of the Reid letter is that she says she won't publicly share it online which doesn't say she's not storing it online or privately sharing it. I get the critique of FCPS--their data storage/privacy are CLEARLY inadequate--but what does HER holding onto people's private data have to do with that?

If she's not ill-intentioned towards the parents of FCPS children whose data she has, what I would hope she would provide is a some kind of a certified statement that to her knowledge she has destroyed all of the children's private data and not shared it with others (I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know what that kind of statement). Or at least provide a list of those others she has shared it with so we know where we stand.

For those of you who are defending her, I'd really like an honest answer of why she wouldn't do this--and why you think it's okay that she doesn't? The parents and the kids aren't the big, bad FCPS she's supposedly fighting. She would have much higher ground to stand on if she did this. It would re-focus attention on FCPS's flaws rather than her.

[Anonymous]

https://specialeducationaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Hot-Topics-Region-4.docx-kids-names-redacted.pdf


Look at this document from her site and tell me that this doesn't identify kids. She's a terrible person.


All you who keep saying she's so great, what do you have to say about this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume she has all the original information with the names of our children. I say that because I got the letter today. I don't see why this isn't criminal. Like, if the bank gives you too much money, and you keep it, isn't that stealing? Callie, I hope you're reading this.

Her website is still up and running with all its data. How is it not shut down? I am ready to take legal action against her.

what "data" are you seeing on the website?

There is no data on her website. But there is a poster/posters repeatedly posting here that the data is available on Callie’s site to freak out parents.

I'm not that poster. There is redacted data on her website and on the journalist article, but I agree that there is no evidence that she has publicly posted data with kids' names online--whether it's identifiable in any other way I don't know.
What freaks me out is not that it's online, but that she inadvertently downloaded digital data with personal information of 35k kids that she has decided to hold onto and no one has no idea what she plans to do with it and who she's shared it with. So far from what I can understand from what she wrote it and the articles about it seems that she's at least shared it with a journalist and the Goldwater Institute lawyer guy. We also don't know where she's storing it--is it in cloud storage? Is it secure? The wording of the Reid letter is that she says she won't publicly share it online which doesn't say she's not storing it online or privately sharing it. I get the critique of FCPS--their data storage/privacy are CLEARLY inadequate--but what does HER holding onto people's private data have to do with that?

If she's not ill-intentioned towards the parents of FCPS children whose data she has, what I would hope she would provide is a some kind of a certified statement that to her knowledge she has destroyed all of the children's private data and not shared it with others (I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know what that kind of statement). Or at least provide a list of those others she has shared it with so we know where we stand.

For those of you who are defending her, I'd really like an honest answer of why she wouldn't do this--and why you think it's okay that she doesn't? The parents and the kids aren't the big, bad FCPS she's supposedly fighting. She would have much higher ground to stand on if she did this. It would re-focus attention on FCPS's flaws rather than her.

I don’t think anyone is defending her. I think we’re just on the side that she never should have gotten it. And fcps has a habit of doing this. Blaming Callie as the more responsible party is straight up false. The courts told fcps that last time it happened…with her. It feels like we’re defending her because there are so many crazies on here ready to sue for laws they hope to get passed some day because they’re super pissed. But they’re super pissed because they don’t like Callie had the info but not pissed fcps handed it over. And when you call that out, they cry they’re not legal experts and how dare you call out their ignorance because Callie is evil. It’s this circular argument the common sense people are trying to balance out the conversation, so the people who truly don’t know and are looking for rational answers aren’t misled by those who are just spouting nonsense and terrible analogies comparing what she did to murder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://specialeducationaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Hot-Topics-Region-4.docx-kids-names-redacted.pdf


Look at this document from her site and tell me that this doesn't identify kids. She's a terrible person.


All you who keep saying she's so great, what do you have to say about this

Wow, ok, that's much worse than I thought. (I'm not one of the ones saying there's no data on there though).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume she has all the original information with the names of our children. I say that because I got the letter today. I don't see why this isn't criminal. Like, if the bank gives you too much money, and you keep it, isn't that stealing? Callie, I hope you're reading this.

Her website is still up and running with all its data. How is it not shut down? I am ready to take legal action against her.

what "data" are you seeing on the website?

There is no data on her website. But there is a poster/posters repeatedly posting here that the data is available on Callie’s site to freak out parents.

I'm not that poster. There is redacted data on her website and on the journalist article, but I agree that there is no evidence that she has publicly posted data with kids' names online--whether it's identifiable in any other way I don't know.
What freaks me out is not that it's online, but that she inadvertently downloaded digital data with personal information of 35k kids that she has decided to hold onto and no one has no idea what she plans to do with it and who she's shared it with. So far from what I can understand from what she wrote it and the articles about it seems that she's at least shared it with a journalist and the Goldwater Institute lawyer guy. We also don't know where she's storing it--is it in cloud storage? Is it secure? The wording of the Reid letter is that she says she won't publicly share it online which doesn't say she's not storing it online or privately sharing it. I get the critique of FCPS--their data storage/privacy are CLEARLY inadequate--but what does HER holding onto people's private data have to do with that?

If she's not ill-intentioned towards the parents of FCPS children whose data she has, what I would hope she would provide is a some kind of a certified statement that to her knowledge she has destroyed all of the children's private data and not shared it with others (I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know what that kind of statement). Or at least provide a list of those others she has shared it with so we know where we stand.

For those of you who are defending her, I'd really like an honest answer of why she wouldn't do this--and why you think it's okay that she doesn't? The parents and the kids aren't the big, bad FCPS she's supposedly fighting. She would have much higher ground to stand on if she did this. It would re-focus attention on FCPS's flaws rather than her.

I don’t think anyone is defending her. I think we’re just on the side that she never should have gotten it. And fcps has a habit of doing this. Blaming Callie as the more responsible party is straight up false. The courts told fcps that last time it happened…with her. It feels like we’re defending her because there are so many crazies on here ready to sue for laws they hope to get passed some day because they’re super pissed. But they’re super pissed because they don’t like Callie had the info but not pissed fcps handed it over. And when you call that out, they cry they’re not legal experts and how dare you call out their ignorance because Callie is evil. It’s this circular argument the common sense people are trying to balance out the conversation, so the people who truly don’t know and are looking for rational answers aren’t misled by those who are just spouting nonsense and terrible analogies comparing what she did to murder.

We all agree she shouldn’t have gotten the files. There is certainly an issue with FCPS that should be discussed and addressed.

BUT this thread is specifically discussing the actions she took after she had the files. Most of us think what she did was horrible and we want her held accountable for her actions. She intentionally kept the files. She is intentionally using them and exploiting thousands of families out there without their consent.

If you don’t want to discuss that then this isn’t the thread for you.

[Anonymous]

Medically protected information of minors that she has stolen. I am looking forward to attending her trial and making an impact statement before her sentencing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Medically protected information of minors that she has stolen. I am looking forward to attending her trial and making an impact statement before her sentencing.

Is she on trial?!

[Anonymous]

It’s a FERPA violation by FCPS, but FERPA is not individually enforceable. You can’t sue to enforce it; you complain to the US Department of Education. Everyone here should.

https://studentprivacy.ed.gov/file-a-complaint

Callie herself can and should be sued into bankruptcy. I doubt any umbrella policy covers this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Medically protected information of minors that she has stolen. I am looking forward to attending her trial and making an impact statement before her sentencing.

Stealing = someone handed you something and sent you on your merry way. lol. Trial. Sentencing. This comment sums up the stupidity of this entire thread, and multiplies it by 50.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Medically protected information of minors that she has stolen. I am looking forward to attending her trial and making an impact statement before her sentencing.

Stealing = someone handed you something and sent you on your merry way. lol. Trial. Sentencing. This comment sums up the stupidity of this entire thread, and multiplies it by 50.

Eh, there are many good points on this thread, even if this isn't one of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This woman is on this thread trying to justify what she did based on the actions of FCPS. Apples and oranges my dear. What FCPS did is akin to manslaughter. What you did is akin to murder. I MIGHT be able to forgive manslaughter. Murder? Never.

BUT she thinks she's absolved because it's to "save" us all from FCPS, for the greater good, and oh she redacted it.

It was good for people to know this information. Also little of it had to do with the kids. She did not share information about your child. If FCPS had handed me this info I would have taken it straight to a lawyer to get help in how to deal with it. Is that what you are complaining about.

So does not have private sensitive information on 35000 children like she says she does?

She was given it by fcps, Yes. But she didn’t use it other than in a scrubbed, high level reporting. This was confirmed today by Michelle Reid. She is the fcps superintendent. So let’s stop making stuff up and speculating. This is straight from the top.

The document shared in this thread is not what I could call "scrubbed, high level reporting."