What a joke. So Western Europe didn't want to fund their own defense because Trump might not follow through and defend them? Doesn't sound real brilliant. Yes, Merkel, Macron and Johnson hated Trump. He declared that he would act in America's interest, rather than "lead from behind" those three like Obama did. Of course they hated him. But frankly, I totally agree that NATO does not serve our interests. We bear the cost of defending Europe, subsidize their welfare state lifestyles and they undercut that defense by making deals with Russia AND routinely opposing US interests elsewhere (Iran especially) for $$. We need to let the European Union fund their own defense. They have a larger population than we do and a GDP that is close to ours (and lots bigger than Russia's.) We get nothing from the deal except arms sales. |
Yeah probably use the emergency broadcast system and I bet they would go ahead and use any air riad sirens that they still available. At the point of nuclear war I assume they will communicate however they can |
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I generally think this thread is alarmist…but as I watch the majority of our entire government gathered in one place for the State of the Union address, the timing does seem a bit ill-conceived.
Especially if you take reports that Putin is unhinged seriously. 😬 |
I’d be happy with POTUS Gina Raimondo. She’s the designated survivor. |
| To the person who mentioned shelters in the other thread: They probably weren’t built for nuclear attack but many of the older public schools and government buildings were built as fallout shelters. I remember seeing the old signs for them in my elementary and high schools. I’d also like to check to see if the underground METRO stations were designed with any sort of protectiveness in mind. In practice, though, it’s not really useful information—except, perhaps for people who happen to be in such places any way. |
Haha. I joked about this earlier today. |
Not even the young ones. They are mostly all brainwashed. I'm from Belarus and I have plenty of Russina friends and they are putin bootlickers. Even my coutrymen disgust me now with their attitudes. Look at ovexhekin. He's a disgrace. Should have just kept his mouth shut but he's a Putin fan boy. |
You know who causes this mess? Western Europe. They are weak and spineless. Now we're gonna eventually get dragged in to clean up their mess. It's gonna be bloody. Putin has been attacking Ukraine for YEARS. YEARS. We are YEARS late with agressive sanctions. We should have turned Ruasia into a mirror image odlg starving ass North Korea back in 2014. Russia needs to be wiped off thr map and start fresh. Someone should have assassinated Putin when they had the chance. Put a bullet through his head right when putin wad kicked out of the G8. Could have done it right there in Normandy. Would have been poetic. He illegally annex Crimea and his consequence is getting kicked out of the G8? Pathetic, weak and frankly disastrous. |
Subsidize their welfare lifestyles?!? Haha good one 🤣 🙄 |
Ever hear of "guns or butter"? If we pay for their guns, they have more for butter. Not to mention the fact that we subsidize their health care costs through R&D and paying the profit for Pharma and medical devices while they price fix. |
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Soooooooo I know we were joking and all but …what was the name of those pills?
Because I’m seeing the news about the latest nuclear plant fight and fire and things are not comforting right now |
All of my Russian friends are in Georgia or other countries protesting the war. |
Where did you read this? A large scale nuclear attack between the USA and Russia would mean a nuclear winter that would kill most of the human race. If that wasn’t in the materials you read, they aren’t reliable. Period. |
Sorry. You’re misinformed. Physics just doesn’t work out that way. Nuclear bombs aren’t magic. They’re just bombs - with some interesting side effects that subside on an entirely predictable mathematic timetable. 4-8 weeks is entirely correct in terms of fallout. Iodine 131, Cesium 137 and Strontium 90 require more time but are produced in far smaller quantities relative to the more energetic isotopes produced in a fission cycle, which are the primary dangers from fallout. Localized neutron activation in otherwise stable elements is another source of intermediate length contamination, but it is very localized, confined to the area of neutron flux at the moment of the fission/fusion cycle. “Nuclear winter” was a term created by Carl Sagan and embraced by Hollywood script writers. It has no basis in reality. A large scale exchange would put enough soot, smoke and dust into the air to cloud skies for a short time, but that’s all. Many volcanic eruptions in the last millennia have put far more ash into the atmosphere than every nuclear weapon on earth possibly could. |
| 6 feet of course, and wear your mask! |