School board reckoning?

Anonymous
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You are pretty arrogant speaking for all “black parents.” You are also spectacularly misinformed if you think the root of educational woes in America is “teachers unions.”


SP. Not addressing the "black parents" part as I am not Black and cannot speak as a Black parent. However, I can speak as a teacher who agrees that teachers' unions are a significant root of educational woes.

Teachers' unions care about the unions. They are run by people who have left the profession to become political activists. It has been that way for years. They have no understanding of the day to day experience of teachers and care even less about the students.

I had experience in three schools--two different systems and this was true there. I also have watched from a parental experience what goes on in FCPS and this has not changed my opinion.

And, for those who say that FCPS does not have a teachers' "union," just think of the power they wield as an "association." Do you really think the power of the as a "union" will not be even more?


Talk to any fcps teacher and ask them about the power of the “union” - there is no such power. Admin abuses teachers and the only recourse is to find another job.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:More ribbing of va voters on snl.... Anyone else embarrassed that we elected a guy that was heavily supported by uneducated white women?

https://youtu.be/08zeLYx6j7Y


I'm an educated white woman who voted for Biden and thinks the CRT backlash is BS. I voted for Youngkin because he isn't Trump and he isn't a member of the party that shut schools down for a year in NoVa. It's not that complicated. Take away first grade for my kid and you've lost my vote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More ribbing of va voters on snl.... Anyone else embarrassed that we elected a guy that was heavily supported by uneducated white women?

https://youtu.be/08zeLYx6j7Y


I'm an educated white woman who voted for Biden and thinks the CRT backlash is BS. I voted for Youngkin because he isn't Trump and he isn't a member of the party that shut schools down for a year in NoVa. It's not that complicated. Take away first grade for my kid and you've lost my vote.


Whatever floats your boat, but did it ever occur to you that the poor planning by FCPS when it came to reopening schools or paying attention to facilities might have something to do with a School Board that's focused on their anti-racist equity initiatives, whether it's hiring a new Chief Equity Officer, devoting hundreds of hours to changing TJ admissions, and creating a new "Equity Dashboard" when they could have been laser-focused on operations?
Anonymous
Talk to any fcps teacher and ask them about the power of the “union” - there is no such power. Admin abuses teachers and the only recourse is to find another job.


Our SB listens to them. That's enough power to prove me correct. You've just confirmed it. They are not out to make things better for teachers. Did you read what I wrote earlier--i.e. they are only out for the union itself. Not the teachers. Not the students.
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Anonymous wrote:When have Republicans ever advocated for education? You elected a guy running on lowering taxes and school vouchers-both which are not good things for public schools.


I know. We are screwed. The Democrats current lip service to equity and “ issues” is a huge problem and I hate it and all the educrats they empower, too, but charter schools are like a sign for end of times.


Black parents support school choice. SJW parents of Langley kids do not. I wish I could afford private school and be done with this nonsense. Public schools are failing in urban areas and teachers unions are the biggest problem when we consider what is the true source of systemic racism and the achievement gap in America.


You are pretty arrogant speaking for all “black parents.” You are also spectacularly misinformed if you think the root of educational woes in America is “teachers unions.”


And the people who are outraged that there are AA who vote Republican are not arrogant? Let's be real, the people who are shocked that minorities voted for the Republican Party, who had two minorities on the ballot for high level positions, are arrogant. the Democratic Party should not automatically get the votes of all minorities because of it's positions. For the record, I am a registered Democrat.

Historically, Democrats controlled the Southern States during the Pre-Civil Rights era. The shift from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party in the South came when President Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act in 1964, he even said that he was going to be costing the Democratic Party those votes for the next generation. A lot of the Civil Rights legislation was designed to eradicate laws and policies that had been voted in by Democrats in Southern States.

And the notion that an entire block of people should vote for the Democratic Party because the Democrats have policies that should better serve those people is arrogant. Especially when it is hard to see how the lives of poor people in the rural or urban areas have improved with Democratic Leadership. Democratic policies on poverty, education gaps, and the like have not exactly been knocking it out of the park. The focus at the local level has been on ridiculous crap and not actually addressing the systemic issues that parents of impoverished families face. Maybe look at PreK programs that run in the hours that poor families need them, meaning for longer then the school day, so that parents have an incentive to actually use them. Or Before and After care at Title I schools that is free and opens when parents need it. You could use those programs to provide meals for kids as well as work on targeting educational gap areas.

I am happy to see schools names being changed, I think that makes sense, but it does nothing to actually help the kids learn. Let's focus money on before and after school programs that help kids who are behind catch up. Hire tutors who can work with kids after school. Develop programs that engage the kids and make them want to stay at school instead of heading home where they might not have supervision.
Pay Teachers and Aides enough that they want to work in those schools. Pay subs and tutors enough that they want to work in the after school programs. If we have HS that are under enrolled in impoverished areas, use that space to hire more Teachers and cut down class sizes in the remedial classes so kids have a better chance of making up ground. Find out what classes the kids would want to stay in school for and offer those, votech classes? Trade classes?

Whatever we are doing right now is failing so do something different. But to expect people to vote Democratic simply because the Democrats are more woke is stupid. Vote for the party that you think is going to address your needs, right now, I don't see either the Democrats or Republicans addressing the needs to POC.


+10000000

You nailed it. Liberal who voted Republican in this election.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
You are pretty arrogant speaking for all “black parents.” You are also spectacularly misinformed if you think the root of educational woes in America is “teachers unions.”


SP. Not addressing the "black parents" part as I am not Black and cannot speak as a Black parent. However, I can speak as a teacher who agrees that teachers' unions are a significant root of educational woes.

Teachers' unions care about the unions. They are run by people who have left the profession to become political activists. It has been that way for years. They have no understanding of the day to day experience of teachers and care even less about the students.

I had experience in three schools--two different systems and this was true there. I also have watched from a parental experience what goes on in FCPS and this has not changed my opinion.

And, for those who say that FCPS does not have a teachers' "union," just think of the power they wield as an "association." Do you really think the power of the as a "union" will not be even more?


Troll
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You are pretty arrogant speaking for all “black parents.” You are also spectacularly misinformed if you think the root of educational woes in America is “teachers unions.”


SP. Not addressing the "black parents" part as I am not Black and cannot speak as a Black parent. However, I can speak as a teacher who agrees that teachers' unions are a significant root of educational woes.

Teachers' unions care about the unions. They are run by people who have left the profession to become political activists. It has been that way for years. They have no understanding of the day to day experience of teachers and care even less about the students.

I had experience in three schools--two different systems and this was true there. I also have watched from a parental experience what goes on in FCPS and this has not changed my opinion.

And, for those who say that FCPS does not have a teachers' "union," just think of the power they wield as an "association." Do you really think the power of the as a "union" will not be even more?


Talk to any fcps teacher and ask them about the power of the “union” - there is no such power. Admin abuses teachers and the only recourse is to find another job.


Yeah, I find people here beating up teachers pretty scummy. As soon as they say “unions are the problem,” I know they are dumb or misinformed or both.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:When have Republicans ever advocated for education? You elected a guy running on lowering taxes and school vouchers-both which are not good things for public schools.


I know. We are screwed. The Democrats current lip service to equity and “ issues” is a huge problem and I hate it and all the educrats they empower, too, but charter schools are like a sign for end of times.


Black parents support school choice. SJW parents of Langley kids do not. I wish I could afford private school and be done with this nonsense. Public schools are failing in urban areas and teachers unions are the biggest problem when we consider what is the true source of systemic racism and the achievement gap in America.


You are pretty arrogant speaking for all “black parents.” You are also spectacularly misinformed if you think the root of educational woes in America is “teachers unions.”


And the people who are outraged that there are AA who vote Republican are not arrogant? Let's be real, the people who are shocked that minorities voted for the Republican Party, who had two minorities on the ballot for high level positions, are arrogant. the Democratic Party should not automatically get the votes of all minorities because of it's positions. For the record, I am a registered Democrat.

Historically, Democrats controlled the Southern States during the Pre-Civil Rights era. The shift from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party in the South came when President Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act in 1964, he even said that he was going to be costing the Democratic Party those votes for the next generation. A lot of the Civil Rights legislation was designed to eradicate laws and policies that had been voted in by Democrats in Southern States.

And the notion that an entire block of people should vote for the Democratic Party because the Democrats have policies that should better serve those people is arrogant. Especially when it is hard to see how the lives of poor people in the rural or urban areas have improved with Democratic Leadership. Democratic policies on poverty, education gaps, and the like have not exactly been knocking it out of the park. The focus at the local level has been on ridiculous crap and not actually addressing the systemic issues that parents of impoverished families face. Maybe look at PreK programs that run in the hours that poor families need them, meaning for longer then the school day, so that parents have an incentive to actually use them. Or Before and After care at Title I schools that is free and opens when parents need it. You could use those programs to provide meals for kids as well as work on targeting educational gap areas.

I am happy to see schools names being changed, I think that makes sense, but it does nothing to actually help the kids learn. Let's focus money on before and after school programs that help kids who are behind catch up. Hire tutors who can work with kids after school. Develop programs that engage the kids and make them want to stay at school instead of heading home where they might not have supervision.
Pay Teachers and Aides enough that they want to work in those schools. Pay subs and tutors enough that they want to work in the after school programs. If we have HS that are under enrolled in impoverished areas, use that space to hire more Teachers and cut down class sizes in the remedial classes so kids have a better chance of making up ground. Find out what classes the kids would want to stay in school for and offer those, votech classes? Trade classes?

Whatever we are doing right now is failing so do something different. But to expect people to vote Democratic simply because the Democrats are more woke is stupid. Vote for the party that you think is going to address your needs, right now, I don't see either the Democrats or Republicans addressing the needs to POC.


+10000000

You nailed it. Liberal who voted Republican in this election.


I am the PP who noted that it’s not cool to speak for an entire ethnic group, and that folks are idiots if they think unions are the problem with FCPS. I am not sure how those comments prompted long diatribes on why Republicans are better than Democrats or why people voted one way or another. Stop tying these issues to the parties. Both parties SUCK, okay? The less SB members play party politics, the better off we will be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When have Republicans ever advocated for education? You elected a guy running on lowering taxes and school vouchers-both which are not good things for public schools.


I know. We are screwed. The Democrats current lip service to equity and “ issues” is a huge problem and I hate it and all the educrats they empower, too, but charter schools are like a sign for end of times.


Black parents support school choice. SJW parents of Langley kids do not. I wish I could afford private school and be done with this nonsense. Public schools are failing in urban areas and teachers unions are the biggest problem when we consider what is the true source of systemic racism and the achievement gap in America.


You are pretty arrogant speaking for all “black parents.” You are also spectacularly misinformed if you think the root of educational woes in America is “teachers unions.”


And the people who are outraged that there are AA who vote Republican are not arrogant? Let's be real, the people who are shocked that minorities voted for the Republican Party, who had two minorities on the ballot for high level positions, are arrogant. the Democratic Party should not automatically get the votes of all minorities because of it's positions. For the record, I am a registered Democrat.

Historically, Democrats controlled the Southern States during the Pre-Civil Rights era. The shift from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party in the South came when President Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act in 1964, he even said that he was going to be costing the Democratic Party those votes for the next generation. A lot of the Civil Rights legislation was designed to eradicate laws and policies that had been voted in by Democrats in Southern States.

And the notion that an entire block of people should vote for the Democratic Party because the Democrats have policies that should better serve those people is arrogant. Especially when it is hard to see how the lives of poor people in the rural or urban areas have improved with Democratic Leadership. Democratic policies on poverty, education gaps, and the like have not exactly been knocking it out of the park. The focus at the local level has been on ridiculous crap and not actually addressing the systemic issues that parents of impoverished families face. Maybe look at PreK programs that run in the hours that poor families need them, meaning for longer then the school day, so that parents have an incentive to actually use them. Or Before and After care at Title I schools that is free and opens when parents need it. You could use those programs to provide meals for kids as well as work on targeting educational gap areas.

I am happy to see schools names being changed, I think that makes sense, but it does nothing to actually help the kids learn. Let's focus money on before and after school programs that help kids who are behind catch up. Hire tutors who can work with kids after school. Develop programs that engage the kids and make them want to stay at school instead of heading home where they might not have supervision.
Pay Teachers and Aides enough that they want to work in those schools. Pay subs and tutors enough that they want to work in the after school programs. If we have HS that are under enrolled in impoverished areas, use that space to hire more Teachers and cut down class sizes in the remedial classes so kids have a better chance of making up ground. Find out what classes the kids would want to stay in school for and offer those, votech classes? Trade classes?

Whatever we are doing right now is failing so do something different. But to expect people to vote Democratic simply because the Democrats are more woke is stupid. Vote for the party that you think is going to address your needs, right now, I don't see either the Democrats or Republicans addressing the needs to POC.


+10000000

You nailed it. Liberal who voted Republican in this election.


Uh huh. Please.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You are pretty arrogant speaking for all “black parents.” You are also spectacularly misinformed if you think the root of educational woes in America is “teachers unions.”


SP. Not addressing the "black parents" part as I am not Black and cannot speak as a Black parent. However, I can speak as a teacher who agrees that teachers' unions are a significant root of educational woes.

Teachers' unions care about the unions. They are run by people who have left the profession to become political activists. It has been that way for years. They have no understanding of the day to day experience of teachers and care even less about the students.

I had experience in three schools--two different systems and this was true there. I also have watched from a parental experience what goes on in FCPS and this has not changed my opinion.

And, for those who say that FCPS does not have a teachers' "union," just think of the power they wield as an "association." Do you really think the power of the as a "union" will not be even more?


Troll


Calling names always works when you have no counterpoint facts.
Anonymous
Yeah, I find people here beating up teachers pretty scummy. As soon as they say “unions are the problem,” I know they are dumb or misinformed or both.


Anyone who equates the teachers' unions with teachers does not understand. Once again: it's not the teachers that are the problem, it is the teachers' unions. You don't understand the difference? Look at Randi Weingarten.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More ribbing of va voters on snl.... Anyone else embarrassed that we elected a guy that was heavily supported by uneducated white women?

https://youtu.be/08zeLYx6j7Y


I'm an educated white woman who voted for Biden and thinks the CRT backlash is BS. I voted for Youngkin because he isn't Trump and he isn't a member of the party that shut schools down for a year in NoVa. It's not that complicated. Take away first grade for my kid and you've lost my vote.


Whatever floats your boat, but did it ever occur to you that the poor planning by FCPS when it came to reopening schools or paying attention to facilities might have something to do with a School Board that's focused on their anti-racist equity initiatives, whether it's hiring a new Chief Equity Officer, devoting hundreds of hours to changing TJ admissions, and creating a new "Equity Dashboard" when they could have been laser-focused on operations?


DP - yes, that's why this educated white woman Biden voter voted for Youngkin.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More ribbing of va voters on snl.... Anyone else embarrassed that we elected a guy that was heavily supported by uneducated white women?

https://youtu.be/08zeLYx6j7Y


I'm an educated white woman who voted for Biden and thinks the CRT backlash is BS. I voted for Youngkin because he isn't Trump and he isn't a member of the party that shut schools down for a year in NoVa. It's not that complicated. Take away first grade for my kid and you've lost my vote.


Whatever floats your boat, but did it ever occur to you that the poor planning by FCPS when it came to reopening schools or paying attention to facilities might have something to do with a School Board that's focused on their anti-racist equity initiatives, whether it's hiring a new Chief Equity Officer, devoting hundreds of hours to changing TJ admissions, and creating a new "Equity Dashboard" when they could have been laser-focused on operations?


Indian parent here. While I think Biden is a clown, I think Trump is a terrorist and therefore voted for Biden in the presidential elections. Until Trump disappears from politics, I will continue to vote Democrat at the national and State levels and voted for McAuliff (sp?). I supported school closure during the pandemic given the unknowns at that time and I thought the teachers overall did a great job in dealing with the new paradigm. Much like everyone else's kids, mine lost out on a year too. The loss of learning is real but I'm sure they will make up over time.

However, the school board is another story altogether. Their nonsense last year, the focus on crap that does not add value to my children's education, the TJ fiasco, and most of all the open racism from the left against Asians and Indians is real. I will do everything in my power to get those fuc*ers off the SB at the next election and am weighing my allegiances at the national/state levels as well.

P.S. I know India is in Asia so pls. don't waste time point that out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More ribbing of va voters on snl.... Anyone else embarrassed that we elected a guy that was heavily supported by uneducated white women?

https://youtu.be/08zeLYx6j7Y


I'm an educated white woman who voted for Biden and thinks the CRT backlash is BS. I voted for Youngkin because he isn't Trump and he isn't a member of the party that shut schools down for a year in NoVa. It's not that complicated. Take away first grade for my kid and you've lost my vote.


Whatever floats your boat, but did it ever occur to you that the poor planning by FCPS when it came to reopening schools or paying attention to facilities might have something to do with a School Board that's focused on their anti-racist equity initiatives, whether it's hiring a new Chief Equity Officer, devoting hundreds of hours to changing TJ admissions, and creating a new "Equity Dashboard" when they could have been laser-focused on operations?


Indian parent here. While I think Biden is a clown, I think Trump is a terrorist and therefore voted for Biden in the presidential elections. Until Trump disappears from politics, I will continue to vote Democrat at the national and State levels and voted for McAuliff (sp?). I supported school closure during the pandemic given the unknowns at that time and I thought the teachers overall did a great job in dealing with the new paradigm. Much like everyone else's kids, mine lost out on a year too. The loss of learning is real but I'm sure they will make up over time.

However, the school board is another story altogether. Their nonsense last year, the focus on crap that does not add value to my children's education, the TJ fiasco, and most of all the open racism from the left against Asians and Indians is real. I will do everything in my power to get those fuc*ers off the SB at the next election and am weighing my allegiances at the national/state levels as well.

P.S. I know India is in Asia so pls. don't waste time point that out.


These haven't been easy choices. I voted for Youngkin because I know first-hand how unprincipled Terry McAuliffe is (he really is the ultimate political hack), but otherwise split my ticket and voted Democratic for the other offices (the only D who was elected was my local House of Delegates member, and incumbent). I liked Herring and thought he did a good job.

But at this point the School Board is the next big election affecting education coming up, and I couldn't agree more with you that unseating these people is key. They may not be awful in the same way, but they all need to go, with the possible exception of Megan McLaughlin.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More ribbing of va voters on snl.... Anyone else embarrassed that we elected a guy that was heavily supported by uneducated white women?

https://youtu.be/08zeLYx6j7Y


I'm an educated white woman who voted for Biden and thinks the CRT backlash is BS. I voted for Youngkin because he isn't Trump and he isn't a member of the party that shut schools down for a year in NoVa. It's not that complicated. Take away first grade for my kid and you've lost my vote.


Whatever floats your boat, but did it ever occur to you that the poor planning by FCPS when it came to reopening schools or paying attention to facilities might have something to do with a School Board that's focused on their anti-racist equity initiatives, whether it's hiring a new Chief Equity Officer, devoting hundreds of hours to changing TJ admissions, and creating a new "Equity Dashboard" when they could have been laser-focused on operations?


Exactly this stuff. It's all corporate BS nonsense. The millions of $$ they spend on this stuff as well as non-teaching admins and outside consulting firms, is incredibly outrageous. FCPS cares more about this stuff than they do about teachers, and teaching your kids. And none of this will change until people can find and elect school board leaders who actually care about education, and who will spend money on real opportunities and after school programs for low income families to help raise them up instead of lowering the bar for everyone.
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