Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

[Anonymous]

Yes, females are capable of abusing men. Stop living in your fantasy world. Hugs for Johnny.

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Anonymous wrote:I was thinking that the AH supporters are MAGA - because they love to support an abuser, no matter gender, and better the underdog, for whatever effed up reasons from your childhood traumas.

Maga is misogynistic and supports Depp. Far right republicans are celebrating his “win.” I’m not sure anyone is supporting AH the way Depp’s loser fans support him. People simply recognize this is a bad verdict for victims.

It's a good verdict for male victims.

It’s not. This verdict will make all abuse victims less likely to come forward, including men (who already face stigma). All abuse victims fear being disbelieved and vilified, for good reason. This trial has been a perfect distillation of that. There are few perfect victims. Amber Heard certainly isn’t perfect, and look how she was destroyed. But Depp did abuse her— there were witnesses, and not just her friends. Depp himself confessed to it in his texts. The plane incident alone constitutes abuse. But because Heard is deeply flawed and guilty of many of her own transgressions, Depp has somehow been exonerated?

If you were a man who had been abused, why would you risk this happening to you?

This verdict is terrible for abuse victims.

Or you could stop trying to paint a very individual situation as some huge social statement. But something tells me you are utterly incapable of that sort of nuance. The fact is here in liberal northern Virginia, a jury found for Depp. You mown about Amber being an imperfect victim without for one second considering that Depp is the imperfect victim. Because your bias can’t honestly understand a male victim in this scenario. But if you reverse gender in those recordings of her taunting and gaslighting him and telling him he’s a baby for thinking she punched him when she only hit him, telling him no one is going to believe him if he states he was abused, there wouldn’t even be a question. You need to check your bias badly.

But she is a woman. Most men a much stronger physically. Most. Maybe when she said “hit” versus “punch” she really did mean two different things. You can’t tell me that all physical contacts are the same. It may have made zero physical impact on him. But maybe it’s your brain that can’t have two guilty parties with differing grey areas of guilt simultaneously

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was thinking that the AH supporters are MAGA - because they love to support an abuser, no matter gender, and better the underdog, for whatever effed up reasons from your childhood traumas.

Maga is misogynistic and supports Depp. Far right republicans are celebrating his “win.” I’m not sure anyone is supporting AH the way Depp’s loser fans support him. People simply recognize this is a bad verdict for victims.

It's a good verdict for male victims.

It’s not. This verdict will make all abuse victims less likely to come forward, including men (who already face stigma). All abuse victims fear being disbelieved and vilified, for good reason. This trial has been a perfect distillation of that. There are few perfect victims. Amber Heard certainly isn’t perfect, and look how she was destroyed. But Depp did abuse her— there were witnesses, and not just her friends. Depp himself confessed to it in his texts. The plane incident alone constitutes abuse. But because Heard is deeply flawed and guilty of many of her own transgressions, Depp has somehow been exonerated?

If you were a man who had been abused, why would you risk this happening to you?

This verdict is terrible for abuse victims.

She wrote demonstrably false things about Depp. That’s why he won his case.

[Anonymous]

I watched most of the trial. All I can say is that the jury saw Amber caught in a couple of rather large lies (sending photo to TMZ, not having her Kate Miss story right, strangely date stamped photos, among others). When a jury sees a person lie, they have no idea what is true and what is not. So they disbelieved all of it. I think they both enagaged in abuse. How much? How often? What kind? Hard to tell. But the jury found Amber to be not credible and that did her in. I did not expect her to lose all three statements, but she did it to herself.

As for the statement Johnny lost, evidence of the second call was blocked from them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was thinking that the AH supporters are MAGA - because they love to support an abuser, no matter gender, and better the underdog, for whatever effed up reasons from your childhood traumas.

Maga is misogynistic and supports Depp. Far right republicans are celebrating his “win.” I’m not sure anyone is supporting AH the way Depp’s loser fans support him. People simply recognize this is a bad verdict for victims.

It's a good verdict for male victims.

It’s not. This verdict will make all abuse victims less likely to come forward, including men (who already face stigma). All abuse victims fear being disbelieved and vilified, for good reason. This trial has been a perfect distillation of that. There are few perfect victims. Amber Heard certainly isn’t perfect, and look how she was destroyed. But Depp did abuse her— there were witnesses, and not just her friends. Depp himself confessed to it in his texts. The plane incident alone constitutes abuse. But because Heard is deeply flawed and guilty of many of her own transgressions, Depp has somehow been exonerated?

If you were a man who had been abused, why would you risk this happening to you?

This verdict is terrible for abuse victims.

Amber and her lying is what has set victims back. All she had to do is tell the truth; instead she wanted to create some grandiose storyline so she could be seen as a spokesperson for dv….she probably intended to use that as a start for her next career move. She believes because she is female she could hit him as much as she likes and it’s not abuse…she did abused people a disservice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was thinking that the AH supporters are MAGA - because they love to support an abuser, no matter gender, and better the underdog, for whatever effed up reasons from your childhood traumas.

Maga is misogynistic and supports Depp. Far right republicans are celebrating his “win.” I’m not sure anyone is supporting AH the way Depp’s loser fans support him. People simply recognize this is a bad verdict for victims.

It's a good verdict for male victims.

It’s not. This verdict will make all abuse victims less likely to come forward, including men (who already face stigma). All abuse victims fear being disbelieved and vilified, for good reason. This trial has been a perfect distillation of that. There are few perfect victims. Amber Heard certainly isn’t perfect, and look how she was destroyed. But Depp did abuse her— there were witnesses, and not just her friends. Depp himself confessed to it in his texts. The plane incident alone constitutes abuse. But because Heard is deeply flawed and guilty of many of her own transgressions, Depp has somehow been exonerated?

If you were a man who had been abused, why would you risk this happening to you?

This verdict is terrible for abuse victims.

She wrote demonstrably false things about Depp. That’s why he won his case.

This. And thought that because of the Me-Too movement that no one would call her out on it. She made a bet and she lost. She lost big time. Before I didn't really think anything of her at all - neither good nor bad - and now I think that she is 1) Miss Crazy Pants, and 2) a complete liar. Those are my two take-aways from the whole trial.

[Anonymous]

Add this to another awful thing about Va and NoVa. Racist, misogynist state that is a backward hell hole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was thinking that the AH supporters are MAGA - because they love to support an abuser, no matter gender, and better the underdog, for whatever effed up reasons from your childhood traumas.

Maga is misogynistic and supports Depp. Far right republicans are celebrating his “win.” I’m not sure anyone is supporting AH the way Depp’s loser fans support him. People simply recognize this is a bad verdict for victims.

It's a good verdict for male victims.

It’s not. This verdict will make all abuse victims less likely to come forward, including men (who already face stigma). All abuse victims fear being disbelieved and vilified, for good reason. This trial has been a perfect distillation of that. There are few perfect victims. Amber Heard certainly isn’t perfect, and look how she was destroyed. But Depp did abuse her— there were witnesses, and not just her friends. Depp himself confessed to it in his texts. The plane incident alone constitutes abuse. But because Heard is deeply flawed and guilty of many of her own transgressions, Depp has somehow been exonerated?

If you were a man who had been abused, why would you risk this happening to you?

This verdict is terrible for abuse victims.

She wrote demonstrably false things about Depp. That’s why he won his case.

This. And thought that because of the Me-Too movement that no one would call her out on it. She made a bet and she lost. She lost big time. Before I didn't really think anything of her at all - neither good nor bad - and now I think that she is 1) Miss Crazy Pants, and 2) a complete liar. Those are my two take-aways from the whole trial.

And no new opinions of Johnny Depp? How are people completely glossing over his behavior like mass amnesia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Add this to another awful thing about Va and NoVa. Racist, misogynist state that is a backward hell hole.

yes, bad luck for Amber Heard that the servers for WaPo are located in NoVa. What states do you think she would have won in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I watched most of the trial. All I can say is that the jury saw Amber caught in a couple of rather large lies (sending photo to TMZ, not having her Kate Miss story right, strangely date stamped photos, among others). When a jury sees a person lie, they have no idea what is true and what is not. So they disbelieved all of it. I think they both enagaged in abuse. How much? How often? What kind? Hard to tell. But the jury found Amber to be not credible and that did her in. I did not expect her to lose all three statements, but she did it to herself.

As for the statement Johnny lost, evidence of the second call was blocked from them.

Why do you think the Kate Moss story was a lie? She could easily heard a rumor that Kate Moss was pushed down the stairs and believed it. You probably have rumors in your head now that you believe, that are actually incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I watched most of the trial. All I can say is that the jury saw Amber caught in a couple of rather large lies (sending photo to TMZ, not having her Kate Miss story right, strangely date stamped photos, among others). When a jury sees a person lie, they have no idea what is true and what is not. So they disbelieved all of it. I think they both enagaged in abuse. How much? How often? What kind? Hard to tell. But the jury found Amber to be not credible and that did her in. I did not expect her to lose all three statements, but she did it to herself.

As for the statement Johnny lost, evidence of the second call was blocked from them.

Yeah, I wish she hadn’t told provably false things because I really do think she was abused. But I can understand why the jury didn’t find her credible after some of the lies. I only expected her to lose on the headline and I’m disappointed the extent to which the jury seemed to favour JD with punitive damages etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was thinking that the AH supporters are MAGA - because they love to support an abuser, no matter gender, and better the underdog, for whatever effed up reasons from your childhood traumas.

Maga is misogynistic and supports Depp. Far right republicans are celebrating his “win.” I’m not sure anyone is supporting AH the way Depp’s loser fans support him. People simply recognize this is a bad verdict for victims.

It's a good verdict for male victims.

It’s not. This verdict will make all abuse victims less likely to come forward, including men (who already face stigma). All abuse victims fear being disbelieved and vilified, for good reason. This trial has been a perfect distillation of that. There are few perfect victims. Amber Heard certainly isn’t perfect, and look how she was destroyed. But Depp did abuse her— there were witnesses, and not just her friends. Depp himself confessed to it in his texts. The plane incident alone constitutes abuse. But because Heard is deeply flawed and guilty of many of her own transgressions, Depp has somehow been exonerated?

If you were a man who had been abused, why would you risk this happening to you?

This verdict is terrible for abuse victims.

She wrote demonstrably false things about Depp. That’s why he won his case.

This. And thought that because of the Me-Too movement that no one would call her out on it. She made a bet and she lost. She lost big time. Before I didn't really think anything of her at all - neither good nor bad - and now I think that she is 1) Miss Crazy Pants, and 2) a complete liar. Those are my two take-aways from the whole trial.

And no new opinions of Johnny Depp? How are people completely glossing over his behavior like mass amnesia?

Not PP but before the trial I thought JD was a scummy and probably abusive actor with a drug problem so no, the trial didn’t really alter my opinion of him. Like PP, I had no particular opinion of AH but I now think she’s a gaslighter and extremely unpleasant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I watched most of the trial. All I can say is that the jury saw Amber caught in a couple of rather large lies (sending photo to TMZ, not having her Kate Miss story right, strangely date stamped photos, among others). When a jury sees a person lie, they have no idea what is true and what is not. So they disbelieved all of it. I think they both enagaged in abuse. How much? How often? What kind? Hard to tell. But the jury found Amber to be not credible and that did her in. I did not expect her to lose all three statements, but she did it to herself.

As for the statement Johnny lost, evidence of the second call was blocked from them.

Yeah, I wish she hadn’t told provably false things because I really do think she was abused. But I can understand why the jury didn’t find her credible after some of the lies. I only expected her to lose on the headline and I’m disappointed the extent to which the jury seemed to favour JD with punitive damages etc.

Amber Heard: “no true abuse victim would call TMZ”
TMZ was clearly called

Ergo….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was thinking that the AH supporters are MAGA - because they love to support an abuser, no matter gender, and better the underdog, for whatever effed up reasons from your childhood traumas.

Maga is misogynistic and supports Depp. Far right republicans are celebrating his “win.” I’m not sure anyone is supporting AH the way Depp’s loser fans support him. People simply recognize this is a bad verdict for victims.

It's a good verdict for male victims.

It’s not. This verdict will make all abuse victims less likely to come forward, including men (who already face stigma). All abuse victims fear being disbelieved and vilified, for good reason. This trial has been a perfect distillation of that. There are few perfect victims. Amber Heard certainly isn’t perfect, and look how she was destroyed. But Depp did abuse her— there were witnesses, and not just her friends. Depp himself confessed to it in his texts. The plane incident alone constitutes abuse. But because Heard is deeply flawed and guilty of many of her own transgressions, Depp has somehow been exonerated?

If you were a man who had been abused, why would you risk this happening to you?

I can’t speak for everyone but I believe Amber took advantage of Depp much like people who prey upon east targets such as the elderly.

Depp is an addict. Either she fell for him when he was in the darkest depths of addiction (which we know wasn’t the case) or she strategically encouraged him to amp up his drug and alcohol intake precisely to prompt situations she could tape to build a case for her lucrative exit plan.

1. Latch on to him
2. Use his connections to further her career
3. Push him off the edge to ruin his career
4. Destroy his image and garner public support
5. Leave the winner with a big bag of money

A simple divorce wouldn’t work. She know that.

Everything points to a scheme. The jury saw that.

Depp has loyal friends and exes going back decades who support him. Drunk rages trashing hotel rooms aren’t the same as beating your wife. He didn’t beat up Amber or anyone else. Throwing things at nobody and smashing cabinets aren’t the abuse Amber hoped they would be. And, her very obvious scheming were transparent.

This verdict is terrible for abuse victims.

She wrote demonstrably false things about Depp. That’s why he won his case.

This. And thought that because of the Me-Too movement that no one would call her out on it. She made a bet and she lost. She lost big time. Before I didn't really think anything of her at all - neither good nor bad - and now I think that she is 1) Miss Crazy Pants, and 2) a complete liar. Those are my two take-aways from the whole trial.

And no new opinions of Johnny Depp? How are people completely glossing over his behavior like mass amnesia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was thinking that the AH supporters are MAGA - because they love to support an abuser, no matter gender, and better the underdog, for whatever effed up reasons from your childhood traumas.

Maga is misogynistic and supports Depp. Far right republicans are celebrating his “win.” I’m not sure anyone is supporting AH the way Depp’s loser fans support him. People simply recognize this is a bad verdict for victims.

It's a good verdict for male victims.

It’s not. This verdict will make all abuse victims less likely to come forward, including men (who already face stigma). All abuse victims fear being disbelieved and vilified, for good reason. This trial has been a perfect distillation of that. There are few perfect victims. Amber Heard certainly isn’t perfect, and look how she was destroyed. But Depp did abuse her— there were witnesses, and not just her friends. Depp himself confessed to it in his texts. The plane incident alone constitutes abuse. But because Heard is deeply flawed and guilty of many of her own transgressions, Depp has somehow been exonerated?

If you were a man who had been abused, why would you risk this happening to you?

This verdict is terrible for abuse victims.

Or you could stop trying to paint a very individual situation as some huge social statement. But something tells me you are utterly incapable of that sort of nuance. The fact is here in liberal northern Virginia, a jury found for Depp. You mown about Amber being an imperfect victim without for one second considering that Depp is the imperfect victim. Because your bias can’t honestly understand a male victim in this scenario. But if you reverse gender in those recordings of her taunting and gaslighting him and telling him he’s a baby for thinking she punched him when she only hit him, telling him no one is going to believe him if he states he was abused, there wouldn’t even be a question. You need to check your bias badly.

But she is a woman. Most men a much stronger physically. Most. Maybe when she said “hit” versus “punch” she really did mean two different things. You can’t tell me that all physical contacts are the same. It may have made zero physical impact on him. But maybe it’s your brain that can’t have two guilty parties with differing grey areas of guilt simultaneously

Here we go again with the woman/man thing. Are we supposed to give her the benefit of doubt because she's a woman and condemn him as soon as the allegations are logged just because he's a man? Was her hitting him is really not that significant because she's a woman and he's a much physically stronger man?