Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

I wonder what Charlie would have thought about the free speech being advocated here:

[twitter]https://x.com/davidgiglioca/status/1966546437707317736?s=46[twitter]

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Anonymous wrote:So do the bread crumbs lead to Fuentes and his groyper army views?

These Groypers think so

Please help this out-of-it middle aged mom out. WTH does anything in this tweet / post mean??

Wikipedia entry for groyper:

The Groypers, sometimes called the Groyper Army, are a group of alt-right, white nationalist, and Christian nationalist[5] activists led by Nick Fuentes. Members of the group have attempted to introduce alt-right politics into mainstream conservatism in the United States and participated in the January 6 United States Capitol attack and the protests leading up to it. They have targeted other conservative groups and individuals whose agendas they view as too moderate and insufficiently nationalist.[6][7] The Groyper movement has been described as white nationalist, homophobic, nativist, fascist, sexist, antisemitic, and an attempt to rebrand the declining alt-right movement.[4][8][9][10]

also know as the "Leopards Eating Faces" party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The shooter is a punk
Its so messed up his family didn't call the FBI or police a family friend did. Now they're trying to act like they helped turn him in bs you would have been on the phone the first hour not two days later. F his family too who say he was spewing hate at the dinner table before he murdered charlie kirk.

Honestly you can’t always predict these things. Unfortunately this was a random, impulsive act. The internet is radicalizing people and many young people lose hope, feel they have nothing to lose so they snap. They have no purpose in life.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what Charlie would have thought about the free speech being advocated here:

[twitter]https://x.com/davidgiglioca/status/1966546437707317736?s=46[twitter]

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Anonymous wrote:So do the bread crumbs lead to Fuentes and his groyper army views?

These Groypers think so

Please help this out-of-it middle aged mom out. WTH does anything in this tweet / post mean??

4chan is an anonymous Internet forum that tends to lean towards edgier content. Nick Fuentes is an alt right podcaster with some fairly intense views, to the right of Charlie Kirk. Groypers are followers of Nick Fuentes and have created their own little subculture. They did not like Charlie Kirk because his views weren’t intense enough, but the feud (groyper war) was done in a fake way, and wasn’t meant to get violent. Long story short check your childrens internet history every once in a while.

"edgier" is doing A LOT of work there

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Anonymous wrote:He had top ACT scores and received the Residential President Scholarship to Utah State for engineering, the school’s highest scholarship, which is a full ride scholarship plus R&B. But he only stayed one semester, dropped out and was currently on a 3rd yr in trade school. Odd

it's not that odd. 18-22 is when mental health dives for young adult males. There are many smart 18 year old men who drop out the first semester

Yeah, by odd I meant it may have signified a mental break of some sort

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a helpful explainer for the slow ones on here:

One positive is that it is exposing the deep internet world that our children are exposed to.

Ok, I am admitting I have no idea what that cartoon is about.

Neither do I.

Me either. Had to ask my teenager. It’s a reference to incels. It has zero political meaning.

Referencing incels has A LOT of political meaning. Nick Fuentes is the incel leader.

Incels are gay right?

not normally, but there are some, reflective of broader society

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what Charlie would have thought about the free speech being advocated here:

[twitter]https://x.com/davidgiglioca/status/1966546437707317736?s=46[twitter]

The news has already been controlled. Journalists have been getting fired regularly. Now I guess we are going into state media mode.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused. The killer is pro gay, anti gun?, antifa, anti Israel, anti Christian and that makes him extreme right?

So far right that he’s left I guess.

Go watch some of Nick Fuentes content to understand him. He is alt right guy who is an open anti semite and white nationalist but also criticizes trump.

Maybe to provide some context, MAGA disowned Fuentes many years ago. Fuentes is many moons more "extremist" in his views than MAGA.

Fuentes is the guy that introduced Kanye to Trump. He was also involved in J6 and is the guy Gosar keeps getting in trouble for. MAGA has not disowned him.

MAGA has not liked Fuentes for years. Someone wrote about it the day before the incident. https://www.rawstory.com/nick-fuentes-2673977332/

Further, there seemed to be some sort of recent fued between Fuentes and Kirk. Idk who the guy with the beard is in this video, I am linking it to show the clip of the caller asking Kirk why he won't debate Fuentes, and Kirk's response. This appears to have happened a month ago or so.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fIu87dY8YMA

Kirk stopped demanding the Epstein files be released a month or so ago. He backtracked on Monday but the damage was done.

I asked chatgpt to give me a history of a fued between the Fuentes and Kirk. Apparently it began way back in 2019.

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Anonymous wrote:Highly educated, employed, church going (preacher ID'd him) young white male who likes to hunt..... Huh.....how original, how unexpected for a murderer.

Do we want to talk who commits the most murders in this country per capita now?

Sure, let’s have that discussion! You first.

That’s the exact whataboutism that Kirk was pushing when he was shot.

PP asked about an irrelevantly large population. Everybody.

If we narrow it to extremist killings, the Anti-Defamation League has an answer. THE RIGHT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEM FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS!

"The ADL Center on Extremism’s annual Murder and Extremism report also found that all extremist-related killings of 2024 were connected to right-wing extremism, with eight of the 13 killings involving white supremacists and the remaining five having connections to far-right anti-government extremists. This is the third year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings."

I know . . .the ADL is a pro-palestinian radical leftist group.

Wait, in July of 2024 an in innocent bystander was killed in the attempt on Trump’s life in Pennsylvania.

Either your source of info does not consider that killing an “extremist killing” or they are interpreting it as coming from the “right”.

Either way, yiu cannot possibly take that source seriously.

That attack was right-on-right violence, you've been consuming lies.

It wasn’t. More liberal lies. The Trump shooter donated to blue organizations. People can change within a couple of years. He may have been Republican in HS, but clearly he wasn’t when he tried to kill Trump.

The Charlie Kirk shooter was not maga. He didn’t vote in any election and his parents said they had a dinner where he was filled with hate. He talked about how disliking Charlie Kirk and felt his views were filled with hate. The shooters parents said their son was becoming more political and hateful.

For the dense people ( a lot on here), you can grow up in a red state around guns and not be political or Republican. Lots do democrats own guns. Like the two transgenders who killed children at school.

And it turns out this report is false. The shooter did not say Kirk's views were hateful. The family member did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what Charlie would have thought about the free speech being advocated here:

Party of free speech, ladies and gentlemen. Threw a multi-billion dollar hissyfit when someone in the government politely asked Twitter to enforce its own terms of service and now here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:He had top ACT scores and received the Residential President Scholarship to Utah State for engineering, the school’s highest scholarship, which is a full ride scholarship plus R&B. But he only stayed one semester, dropped out and was currently on a 3rd yr in trade school. Odd

it's not that odd. 18-22 is when mental health dives for young adult males. There are many smart 18 year old men who drop out the first semester

Charlie dropped out of Harper College "a community college" and folks are on FB losing their minds right now... like he's was the second coming of the baby Jesus. So is it that odd? Actually it makes perfect sense to me. Neither of them thought they needed an education to make a mark in this world, and they were both right. The above just tells us that Robinson was actually the smartest of the two, and if he hadn't gotten caught up in the crazy darkness that is the far right he might have made something of himself.

The internet is a bad place for young men. They should all be out roping cattle in their 20s, ala Brokeback mountain, and not going down the internet rabbit hole of crazy. Mom's give your son's a shovel and send them out to dig some holes, make them do labor work on a construction site during the summers. The world will thank you for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve never heard of Fuentes but I’m not sure what he has to do with Charlie Kirk.

Looks like Fuentes is anti gun, anti Jewish and apparently gay/incel.

Are we saying Fuentes is related to all this bc the shooter was a follower/fan of Fuentes?

Fuentes is to the right of Kirk and is even more of a racist. He and Laura Loomer are the ones who inspired the alleged Charlie Kirk assassination.

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MAGA is not behind this dunce.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing is very clear: the reaction of a huge swath of the left, who celebrated and cheered Kirk's assassination.

Kirk was the "nice guy" that allegedly the left wanted to debate. And yet he was killed... and the left celebrated, cheered, and put out t-shirts. This site is full of "Kirk said stuff so it's good he was killed!" type posts.

And people have noticed the reaction of the left. And noticed just how gleeful and celebratory the left was when someone who holds beliefs the vast majority of Americans hold, such as "DEI is bad" and "men in dresses do not belong in women's sports" was killed.

It's patently obvious it is not just Kirk that the left wants dead. The reaction by leftists has made it crystal clear.

His debates were staged and cherrypicked and he refused to debate anyone with a brain. Bad faith actor.

That said I no longer give a crap what you think and want to say about the left, because it's all completely irrelevant now that we know the guy who shot him wasn't even a leftist, he's an alt-right groyper, as seen in the memes that the shooter embraced. That's right, the shooter was not a "deranged leftist" - he was to the right of Charlie Kirk. The groypers view Kirk as a sellout, and as a fake conservative.