Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Welp, his dad turned the shooter in, and guess what? Not a liberal.

Was raised to be a Utah conservative. Theory is now that he went more conservative than Kirk.


I read Nick Fuentes went on a rant against Kirk recently. I am really think the shooter is a Groyper and the bullet casing meme references check with that.


Fuentes last night. He knows...



Time to cash in on being the next Charlie Kirk replacement!!! 🤑🤑🤑💰💰💸💸💸



Didn't he go into hiding after arrested for battery last year? Such an outstanding young man.

Yes all of these people suck. No argument there.
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never heard of Fuentes but I’m not sure what he has to do with Charlie Kirk.

Looks like Fuentes is anti gun, anti Jewish and apparently gay/incel.

Are we saying Fuentes is related to all this bc the shooter was a follower/fan of Fuentes?


Yes. Apparently the killer killed Charlie Kirk because he was a follower of Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk and wanted him gone.


Source?


To be fair to Nick Fuentes, he never said he wanted him gone. He never invited violence. And he is is no being explicit about that.


I think we all need to be fair to Nick Fuentes. He is a nice guy with a good sense of humor. Just give him a chance and have a beer with him, he is a charm.


Nick “your body my choice” Fuentes? Def a gem


He is a white dude, so he deserves respect no matter what. You are a hater because you don't like people speaking their minds.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused. The killer is pro gay, anti gun?, antifa, anti Israel, anti Christian and that makes him extreme right?

So far right that he’s left I guess.


Go watch some of Nick Fuentes content to understand him. He is alt right guy who is an open anti semite and white nationalist but also criticizes trump.


Maybe to provide some context, MAGA disowned Fuentes many years ago. Fuentes is many moons more "extremist" in his views than MAGA.


Fuentes is the guy that introduced Kanye to Trump. He was also involved in J6 and is the guy Gosar keeps getting in trouble for. MAGA has not disowned him.


MAGA has not liked Fuentes for years. Someone wrote about it the day before the incident. https://www.rawstory.com/nick-fuentes-2673977332/


Further, there seemed to be some sort of recent fued between Fuentes and Kirk. Idk who the guy with the beard is in this video, I am linking it to show the clip of the caller asking Kirk why he won't debate Fuentes, and Kirk's response. This appears to have happened a month ago or so.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fIu87dY8YMA
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Wow, so it is OK to take it out on black colleges?


She's a comic and she's pointing out the contrast in how we act when killers are white men vs any other demographic.


Terrifying. Unless something is explicitly spelled out, people are unable to draw reasonable conclusions. It's why so many are so easily led to believe things that don't even make logical sense if you spend more than two seconds connecting the dots.
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Anonymous wrote:He was a groyper. The antifascist stuff on the casings is obvious trolling.


Please. Stop reaching.

The guy had been radicalized and killed someone who had very different ideology from him. Not a Maga. Not a trans. Just a messed up kid that thought Charlie Kirk was some some sort of villain.

Stop villainizing people that have different political views as you.


He was further to the right than Kirk. This isn't heard to grasp.
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Anonymous wrote:The Justice Department needs to see if there's a way to take guns away from all white men.

Huh? Because men and women of other races never murder with guns?
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Anonymous wrote:"Three unfired casings found in the chamber of the rifle reportedly used by Robinson included left-wing slogans such as “Hey fascist! Catch!” engraved on the side along with an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows."

But yeah, sure, he was a Republican.

He was a left wing nut job and it will all come out. Just stop lying.


They are internet memes. There is no one but you who actually believes he was a left wing nut job. even Nick Fuentes knows he influenced this guy. Be real.
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Anonymous wrote:The Justice Department needs to see if there's a way to take guns away from all white men.

Huh? Because men and women of other races never murder with guns?


Oh my god, again another simpleton.
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The terrifying thing is these people are killing just to kill. There is no logical reason. They do it because they can. Life is a video game to them.
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Wow, so it is OK to take it out on black colleges?


The joke, you missed it. The critical thinking skills in this country are absolutely horrendous.


Not knowing if someone is a comedian has nothing to do with critical thinking. Common knowledge isn’t the same as critical thinking.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile it's confirmed the shooter from Colorado shared white supremacists views online.

https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/11/evergreen-high-school-shooting-colorado-updates/amp/



I think we need to give up the computer and cellphones for children.


Shooter was 22. But maybe we just kill the internet for everyone, I think it has done more harm than good


Sad to say it, but Chinese communists and authoritarians in Russia maybe have gotten it right - the internet needs vastly more guardrails and maybe the govt needs to seriously think about blocking access to social media. Social media is a cancer that is destroying society. It is being wepaonized by our foreign adversaries agaiant us. Vastly more control over social media isn’t incompatible with democracy. Countries like Britain to Australia ate making it much harder to access social media now, especially for minors.


Democrats have been trying to put rules and guardrails on for years only to be stymied by the libertarians of the right.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused. The killer is pro gay, anti gun?, antifa, anti Israel, anti Christian and that makes him extreme right?

So far right that he’s left I guess.


Go watch some of Nick Fuentes content to understand him. He is alt right guy who is an open anti semite and white nationalist but also criticizes trump.


Maybe to provide some context, MAGA disowned Fuentes many years ago. Fuentes is many moons more "extremist" in his views than MAGA.


Fuentes is the guy that introduced Kanye to Trump. He was also involved in J6 and is the guy Gosar keeps getting in trouble for. MAGA has not disowned him.


MAGA has not liked Fuentes for years. Someone wrote about it the day before the incident. https://www.rawstory.com/nick-fuentes-2673977332/


Further, there seemed to be some sort of recent fued between Fuentes and Kirk. Idk who the guy with the beard is in this video, I am linking it to show the clip of the caller asking Kirk why he won't debate Fuentes, and Kirk's response. This appears to have happened a month ago or so.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fIu87dY8YMA


Kirk stopped demanding the Epstein files be released a month or so ago. He backtracked on Monday but the damage was done.
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Anonymous wrote:"Three unfired casings found in the chamber of the rifle reportedly used by Robinson included left-wing slogans such as “Hey fascist! Catch!” engraved on the side along with an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows."

But yeah, sure, he was a Republican.

He was a left wing nut job and it will all come out. Just stop lying.


Hon. You have not been paying attention. That catchphrase and the arrows are Helldiver strat codes. Meaning...video games. Not antifa.

Take 30 seconds to catch up before spouting shite



Weak defense. He didn't go through the trouble of carving that because of video games. He called him a fascist because he believed it.

More worrying than the possibility of the shooter having an ideological disagreement with Kirk is the possibility that we’ve raised a subset of Gen Z kids who are so shallow and confused that they think random video game memes constitute reality. I’d much rather the kid have digested Marx and Hegel than that he thought he was cosplaying some FPS and maybe he’d get social media VREF from it.


This is what it comes down to. He didn’t have clear “left” or “right” ideology as older people and people who aren’t terminally online would recognize it. Basically his brain was so fried by low quality memes and content that he committed a targeted shooting. I think it will come out eventually that he was very far left and at that point, horseshoe theory does come into play. Don’t think of that type of far left as your old school hippie, anti-war, or progressive types. Some of them are closer to leftist anarchists and others advocate for very strong economically left authoritarian governments like the old USSR and communist Cuba.


He is a loomer/fuentes acolyte. that is not "very far left" at all.
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The shooter is a punk
Its so messed up his family didn't call the FBI or police a family friend did. Now they're trying to act like they helped turn him in bs you would have been on the phone the first hour not two days later. F his family too who say he was spewing hate at the dinner table before he murdered charlie kirk.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile it's confirmed the shooter from Colorado shared white supremacists views online.

https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/11/evergreen-high-school-shooting-colorado-updates/amp/



I think we need to give up the computer and cellphones for children.


Shooter was 22. But maybe we just kill the internet for everyone, I think it has done more harm than good


Sad to say it, but Chinese communists and authoritarians in Russia maybe have gotten it right - the internet needs vastly more guardrails and maybe the govt needs to seriously think about blocking access to social media. Social media is a cancer that is destroying society. It is being wepaonized by our foreign adversaries agaiant us. Vastly more control over social media isn’t incompatible with democracy. Countries like Britain to Australia ate making it much harder to access social media now, especially for minors.


Democrats have been trying to put rules and guardrails on for years only to be stymied by the libertarians of the right.


It’s becoming more obvious that it is self radicalization causing the problems. We need some regulation it’s gone too far now.
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