Stop the FCV (DA) and McLean (ECNL) hate

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.


They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.


That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.


A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?





Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?


MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.


MU doesn't even have a club song. Saint James at least has a club song.




This guy gets it. This thread is such a joke


Replying to your own anonymous post. Cute.

Everyone here gets it!
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Anonymous wrote:Yes and No. Games get away from teams, especially at the lower ages. FCV 05 beat MU 5 or 6 - 0 in the fall I think. But that doesn't indicate the strength of MU.


MU parents. SMH. Hypocrites.
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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.


They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.


That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.


A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?





Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?


MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.


MU doesn't even have a club song. Saint James at least has a club song.




This guy gets it. This thread is such a joke


Replying to your own anonymous post. Cute.

Everyone here gets it!


Lol not only a joke, but apparently the funny farm of parents who think they know who is posting what!

Lmao
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In the battle of DA and ECNL bottom dwellers, who would win Metro United/Spirit or Loudoun?
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Anonymous wrote:In the battle of DA and ECNL bottom dwellers, who would win Metro United/Spirit or Loudoun?


Depends on the criteria. On our list FCV is at the bottom. They are the very last place we would choose to put our DD.
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Anonymous wrote:In the battle of DA and ECNL bottom dwellers, who would win Metro United/Spirit or Loudoun?


Depends on the criteria. On our list FCV is at the bottom. They are the very last place we would choose to put our DD.


Is that because FCV made that choice for you?
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OP here -- From what I can tell, the hate for Mclean and FCV is driven by personal vendettas. From what I can tell, both teams are successful at recruiting because they win. Part of that is winning with good players but part of it is that the coaches know how to coach and train. You just don't produce such success w/o good coaching. No one here has mentioned specific names at FCV but it is clear that there are several respected coaches at McLean.

If you are a good player and want to play with other top players, FCV and Mclean are clearly great options. Bethesda has the potential to do the same but has not been as successful. VDA has great younger teams and might get there. BRYC seems to be hit or miss, i.e. strong teams some years and weak teams other years. Loudoun is building an ECNL quality program and I imagine that it will take them a few years to get to a more competitive level. MD United will always have competitive teams because it is pulling from Southern MD, PG County, HoCounty and AA County. The Armour (Former MD WS) will dominate with ties to Pipeline/SAC and accessibility for players living near Baltimore or the surrounding areas.
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Rankings are worthless. Just ask FCV U19's who need plane tickets home from CA now.
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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.


They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.


That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.


A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?





Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?


MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.


If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.
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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.


They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.


That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.


A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?





Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?


MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.


If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.


Three practices per week with the club is sufficient and many top European academies do not train more than three times per week. What separates the top players from the rest of the pack is what they do outside the formal practices.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.


They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.


That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.


A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?





Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?


MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.


If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.


Three practices per week with the club is sufficient and many top European academies do not train more than three times per week. What separates the top players from the rest of the pack is what they do outside the formal practices.


Completely agree. But that doesn’t speak to why these parents on this forum focus so much on wins. And talk about those players as if they are on just as deep teams. Just don’t have an answer to the questions IM asking so I am reasonably assume the answer. They can continue with their narratives if that makes them feel better. But it doesn’t help their kids individually in the slightest.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.


They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.


That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.


A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?





Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?


I don't think people have a problem with those 4 players. All good players and very nice families.

I don't think there is a desire to play with those 4 or any envy either, if so, girls would move over to MU.

I do believe MU is in terrible shape right now. But they do have a good foundation of players and a few good coaches. Let's hope they build on that and become great.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.


They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.


That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.


A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?





Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?


MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.


If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.


To answer your questions: Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? Yes
With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? All of FCV, 3 VDA players, 2-3 McLean players
how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out All could, but choose to put themselves in better situations. 3 of the 4 at MU had a tryout at FCV and were not offered or offered PT.
How many kid would just check out? Complete speculation for any answer, but many, even the current MU players. That is why the losses get out of hand sometimes. Similar to FCV's loss to PDA. Checked out.

but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. All 4 are very good players, 3 of 4 attempted to get on the FCV roster. They just are not quite there yet. And I stress yet. All these are kids and are not done developing and growing.

Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Here is the key IMO. Playing against higher level players, faster, stronger, more technically proficient, more tactically proficient forces everyone around them to play better, faster. Iron sharpens Iron so to speak. Unfortunately for those 4, they'd be better off practicing several times per week with FCV level players than the current team they end up playing against. Many do this because of game time minutes, which are NOT important at this age; other do it for other reasons. The number of quality touches you get in a game are minimal compared to what a player will receive in a high quality, high intensity practice with 18 solid players vice 4.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.


They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.


That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.


A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?





Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?


MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.


If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.


To answer your questions: Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? Yes
With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? All of FCV, 3 VDA players, 2-3 McLean players
how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out All could, but choose to put themselves in better situations. 3 of the 4 at MU had a tryout at FCV and were not offered or offered PT.
How many kid would just check out? Complete speculation for any answer, but many, even the current MU players. That is why the losses get out of hand sometimes. Similar to FCV's loss to PDA. Checked out.

but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. All 4 are very good players, 3 of 4 attempted to get on the FCV roster. They just are not quite there yet. And I stress yet. All these are kids and are not done developing and growing.

Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Here is the key IMO. Playing against higher level players, faster, stronger, more technically proficient, more tactically proficient forces everyone around them to play better, faster. Iron sharpens Iron so to speak. Unfortunately for those 4, they'd be better off practicing several times per week with FCV level players than the current team they end up playing against. Many do this because of game time minutes, which are NOT important at this age; other do it for other reasons. The number of quality touches you get in a game are minimal compared to what a player will receive in a high quality, high intensity practice with 18 solid players vice 4.


How do you explain how this MU 05 team went from 5-1 loss to FCV in the fall to only 2-0 loss? Why are they catching up to FCV? Why are they developing and improving versus the rest of DA while FCV is not?
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