Top 10 Schools in MoCo

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Anonymous wrote: Frankly, I do not give a rat's ass about the ranking. Does my kid have a good shot of getting stellar grades, great SAT and AP scores, learning the material, filling content gaps, having excellent EC activities at the end of 4 years? Is he willing to work hard and not depend on MCPS to spoon feed him? Am I willing to support him? Why would I care what the school rating of any other MCPS school is? Why do I care where Joe Shmoe goes? My student is a rising 9th grader in PHS SMACS program - so should he take it easy because by being in PHS he will automagically succeed?

None of the public and private schools in DMV is of the same caliber as Stuyvesant. We should try and concentrate on what is important.

Blair SMACS puts Stuyvesant to shame

I don't get all the Blair SMACS boosters on this forum ... It's a great program, but you all act like it's God gift to man.

Also, Stuyvesant is the #4 public HS in America on Niche. The number 1 MD high school on that site--Poolesville--is #30. Given how many high schools there are in the country, statistically anything in at least the top 100 is equivalent, so certainly MD high schools can't be said to "put Stuyvesant to shame."

Compare what Stuy have done with over 3000 magnet students with Blair SMACS 400 students and then come talk to me.

Regardless of what you might think, Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ continue to be ranked above Blair.

Give me concrete reasons why you think Blair should be ranked above those schools. Until then I'll maintain my position that the schools are roughly equivalent, given that those other three are whole-school magnets (or at least have magnet programs that are a larger percentage of the student body than at Blair).

Are you really that gullible?
On PAPER, they will always rank above Blair. They are all-Magnet schools (except for Poolesville which is three Quarter Magnet ). Also , Blair is minority -Majority, so they will never rank Blair higher.
But on the field performances, where it actually matters, none of them can match Blair. Blair outshines them all.

I keep asking for CONCRETE information to back up your argument and you refuse to provide any.

So I'll ask again: provide concrete data proving that Blair is better than Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

As for the majority-minority point: Stuy is only 81% minority.

Here is concrete evidence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search
Stuy is mostly Asian and white and All-magnet

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So because Blair has more URM it's ... better? My argument is it's ranked lower likely because it's not a whole school magnet, meaning it's probably ultimately equivalent to Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

Huh?????
Did you check the link for concrete evidence?
Blair is ranked lower on PAPER because it has more URM and it is a quarter magnet. But it achieves more, a lot more with less magnet students.

I'll say it again: provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students.

IAre you serious? I just posted the link to you.
Here it is, again
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search

That's one competition. It really doesn't answer my question.

Yes, it answers your question which was: "provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students. "
It is the mother of all STEM and it shows Blair achieves more with less STEM students.

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Poolesville has plenty of kids win Intel competition awards. How is that different? Again, it’s one competition. It’s far from a comprehensive comparison of the schools.

Sorry I misread the link. Yes it’s a big competition, but it’s one competition and Poolesville has plenty of representation. Work harder to prove your point.

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If I lived near Poolesville, I'd love it if my kids went there. It's a fine school and that part of the county is lovely. However, we work downtown so never go out there.

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Anonymous wrote:Where's the list of Poolesville HS grads's colleges and employers 10 years after HS graduation?

Where's the list for Blair?

Where's the list for Stuyvesant?

And Thomas Jefferson?

i have my own list from encounters from my last 4 jobs over 20 years time. if you pay attention to where ppl grew up and what HS they went to, you'd know a lot about a lot of HSs, but their rep back in the day of course.

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Anonymous wrote: Frankly, I do not give a rat's ass about the ranking. Does my kid have a good shot of getting stellar grades, great SAT and AP scores, learning the material, filling content gaps, having excellent EC activities at the end of 4 years? Is he willing to work hard and not depend on MCPS to spoon feed him? Am I willing to support him? Why would I care what the school rating of any other MCPS school is? Why do I care where Joe Shmoe goes? My student is a rising 9th grader in PHS SMACS program - so should he take it easy because by being in PHS he will automagically succeed?

None of the public and private schools in DMV is of the same caliber as Stuyvesant. We should try and concentrate on what is important.

Blair SMACS puts Stuyvesant to shame

I don't get all the Blair SMACS boosters on this forum ... It's a great program, but you all act like it's God gift to man.

Also, Stuyvesant is the #4 public HS in America on Niche. The number 1 MD high school on that site--Poolesville--is #30. Given how many high schools there are in the country, statistically anything in at least the top 100 is equivalent, so certainly MD high schools can't be said to "put Stuyvesant to shame."

Compare what Stuy have done with over 3000 magnet students with Blair SMACS 400 students and then come talk to me.

Regardless of what you might think, Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ continue to be ranked above Blair.

Give me concrete reasons why you think Blair should be ranked above those schools. Until then I'll maintain my position that the schools are roughly equivalent, given that those other three are whole-school magnets (or at least have magnet programs that are a larger percentage of the student body than at Blair).

Are you really that gullible?
On PAPER, they will always rank above Blair. They are all-Magnet schools (except for Poolesville which is three Quarter Magnet ). Also , Blair is minority -Majority, so they will never rank Blair higher.
But on the field performances, where it actually matters, none of them can match Blair. Blair outshines them all.

I keep asking for CONCRETE information to back up your argument and you refuse to provide any.

So I'll ask again: provide concrete data proving that Blair is better than Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

As for the majority-minority point: Stuy is only 81% minority.

Here is concrete evidence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search
Stuy is mostly Asian and white and All-magnet

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So because Blair has more URM it's ... better? My argument is it's ranked lower likely because it's not a whole school magnet, meaning it's probably ultimately equivalent to Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

Huh?????
Did you check the link for concrete evidence?
Blair is ranked lower on PAPER because it has more URM and it is a quarter magnet. But it achieves more, a lot more with less magnet students.

I'll say it again: provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students.

IAre you serious? I just posted the link to you.
Here it is, again
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search

That's one competition. It really doesn't answer my question.

Yes, it answers your question which was: "provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students. "
It is the mother of all STEM and it shows Blair achieves more with less STEM students.

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Poolesville has plenty of kids win Intel competition awards. How is that different? Again, it’s one competition. It’s far from a comprehensive comparison of the schools.

Sorry I misread the link. Yes it’s a big competition, but it’s one competition and Poolesville has plenty of representation. Work harder to prove your point.

Yes Regeneron (formerly called Intel) is the most prestigious science competition in the country and Blair has had twice as many finalists as the school with the second highest number of finalists in the country despite being a relatively small program. So it is a valid data point for a science Magnet. What other data would you suggest? SAT scores? NMSF awards? College destinations?

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Anonymous wrote:Where's the list of Poolesville HS grads's colleges and employers 10 years after HS graduation?

Where's the list for Blair?

Where's the list for Stuyvesant?

And Thomas Jefferson?

Only the private schools provide this, plus their major donor alums sponsor the funding for competitions all the time. I remember my neighbor doing a robotics competition and his school rounding him up $10k in 3 days, plus found a large indoor pool to do the underwater robotics experiments in.

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Anonymous wrote:Its not funny and you shouldn't try to ignore the gang problem in schools like Blair. Silver Spring, Wheaton and Germantown have serious issues. The game groups targeted are middle to high schoolers.

personally, I like the hit & run culture on Georgia Ave at all hours of the day and night. never seen so many car accidents in my life in a developed country than around there.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd rather hire the top 1% of a program or school pulling from 2,000,000 seniors in an urban area than the top 1% of a program or school pulling from 15,000 seniors north of Homestead Farm any day.

Pure stats.

I do see Poolesville is in Potomac, correct?

No, Poolesville is in Poolesville.

OMG.

You people who are bashing Poolesville don't even know where it is!

Maybe get basic information about the school--like it's LOCATION--before you declare its mediocrity.

I think you're answering your own question here.
No one ever says "Where is NYC?"

No. Just because you don't know about something doesn't mean it's mediocre. What arrogance you must have to think that your knowledge is inclusive of everything high-quality, such that anything you haven't heard of must be mediocre.

remember DCUM MCPS logic:

(1) If the MCPS CES or magnet programs are pulling from a larger pool of students now, the admits simply must be more gifted than before.

but:

(2) If a magnet school like Stuyvesant is pulling from a much larger pool of students, it simply must be worse than Poolesville which pulls admits from a significantly less student pool.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd rather hire the top 1% of a program or school pulling from 2,000,000 seniors in an urban area than the top 1% of a program or school pulling from 15,000 seniors north of Homestead Farm any day.

Pure stats.

I do see Poolesville is in Potomac, correct?

No, Poolesville is in Poolesville.

OMG.

You people who are bashing Poolesville don't even know where it is!

Maybe get basic information about the school--like it's LOCATION--before you declare its mediocrity.

I think you're answering your own question here.
No one ever says "Where is NYC?"

No. Just because you don't know about something doesn't mean it's mediocre. What arrogance you must have to think that your knowledge is inclusive of everything high-quality, such that anything you haven't heard of must be mediocre.

remember DCUM MCPS logic:

(1) If the MCPS CES or magnet programs are pulling from a larger pool of students now, the admits simply must be more gifted than before.

but:

(2) If a magnet school like Stuyvesant is pulling from a much larger pool of students, it simply must be worse than Poolesville which pulls admits from a significantly less student pool.

LOL

You, madam or sir, win.

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Exactly, more people means a higher number of them are gifted.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly, more people means a higher number of them are gifted.

Yes, the top 1% of 4000 is superior to the top 1% of 300. This is more or less the situation.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly, more people means a higher number of them are gifted.

Yes, the top 1% of 4000 is superior to the top 1% of 300. This is more or less the situation.

Everyone complaining about the new CES process disagrees. It’s only when that argument supports bashing an upcounty school that they endorse it.

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Anonymous wrote: Frankly, I do not give a rat's ass about the ranking. Does my kid have a good shot of getting stellar grades, great SAT and AP scores, learning the material, filling content gaps, having excellent EC activities at the end of 4 years? Is he willing to work hard and not depend on MCPS to spoon feed him? Am I willing to support him? Why would I care what the school rating of any other MCPS school is? Why do I care where Joe Shmoe goes? My student is a rising 9th grader in PHS SMACS program - so should he take it easy because by being in PHS he will automagically succeed?

None of the public and private schools in DMV is of the same caliber as Stuyvesant. We should try and concentrate on what is important.

Blair SMACS puts Stuyvesant to shame

I don't get all the Blair SMACS boosters on this forum ... It's a great program, but you all act like it's God gift to man.

Also, Stuyvesant is the #4 public HS in America on Niche. The number 1 MD high school on that site--Poolesville--is #30. Given how many high schools there are in the country, statistically anything in at least the top 100 is equivalent, so certainly MD high schools can't be said to "put Stuyvesant to shame."

Compare what Stuy have done with over 3000 magnet students with Blair SMACS 400 students and then come talk to me.

Regardless of what you might think, Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ continue to be ranked above Blair.

Give me concrete reasons why you think Blair should be ranked above those schools. Until then I'll maintain my position that the schools are roughly equivalent, given that those other three are whole-school magnets (or at least have magnet programs that are a larger percentage of the student body than at Blair).

Are you really that gullible?
On PAPER, they will always rank above Blair. They are all-Magnet schools (except for Poolesville which is three Quarter Magnet ). Also , Blair is minority -Majority, so they will never rank Blair higher.
But on the field performances, where it actually matters, none of them can match Blair. Blair outshines them all.

I keep asking for CONCRETE information to back up your argument and you refuse to provide any.

So I'll ask again: provide concrete data proving that Blair is better than Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

As for the majority-minority point: Stuy is only 81% minority.

Here is concrete evidence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search
Stuy is mostly Asian and white and All-magnet

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So because Blair has more URM it's ... better? My argument is it's ranked lower likely because it's not a whole school magnet, meaning it's probably ultimately equivalent to Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

Huh?????
Did you check the link for concrete evidence?
Blair is ranked lower on PAPER because it has more URM and it is a quarter magnet. But it achieves more, a lot more with less magnet students.

I'll say it again: provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students.

IAre you serious? I just posted the link to you.
Here it is, again
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search

That's one competition. It really doesn't answer my question.

Yes, it answers your question which was: "provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students. "
It is the mother of all STEM and it shows Blair achieves more with less STEM students.

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Poolesville has plenty of kids win Intel competition awards. How is that different? Again, it’s one competition. It’s far from a comprehensive comparison of the schools.

When?
From time to time, PHS get some finalists but no where near Blair.

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Anonymous wrote: Frankly, I do not give a rat's ass about the ranking. Does my kid have a good shot of getting stellar grades, great SAT and AP scores, learning the material, filling content gaps, having excellent EC activities at the end of 4 years? Is he willing to work hard and not depend on MCPS to spoon feed him? Am I willing to support him? Why would I care what the school rating of any other MCPS school is? Why do I care where Joe Shmoe goes? My student is a rising 9th grader in PHS SMACS program - so should he take it easy because by being in PHS he will automagically succeed?

None of the public and private schools in DMV is of the same caliber as Stuyvesant. We should try and concentrate on what is important.

Blair SMACS puts Stuyvesant to shame

I don't get all the Blair SMACS boosters on this forum ... It's a great program, but you all act like it's God gift to man.

Also, Stuyvesant is the #4 public HS in America on Niche. The number 1 MD high school on that site--Poolesville--is #30. Given how many high schools there are in the country, statistically anything in at least the top 100 is equivalent, so certainly MD high schools can't be said to "put Stuyvesant to shame."

Compare what Stuy have done with over 3000 magnet students with Blair SMACS 400 students and then come talk to me.

Regardless of what you might think, Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ continue to be ranked above Blair.

Give me concrete reasons why you think Blair should be ranked above those schools. Until then I'll maintain my position that the schools are roughly equivalent, given that those other three are whole-school magnets (or at least have magnet programs that are a larger percentage of the student body than at Blair).

Are you really that gullible?
On PAPER, they will always rank above Blair. They are all-Magnet schools (except for Poolesville which is three Quarter Magnet ). Also , Blair is minority -Majority, so they will never rank Blair higher.
But on the field performances, where it actually matters, none of them can match Blair. Blair outshines them all.

I keep asking for CONCRETE information to back up your argument and you refuse to provide any.

So I'll ask again: provide concrete data proving that Blair is better than Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

As for the majority-minority point: Stuy is only 81% minority.

Here is concrete evidence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search
Stuy is mostly Asian and white and All-magnet

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So because Blair has more URM it's ... better? My argument is it's ranked lower likely because it's not a whole school magnet, meaning it's probably ultimately equivalent to Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

Huh?????
Did you check the link for concrete evidence?
Blair is ranked lower on PAPER because it has more URM and it is a quarter magnet. But it achieves more, a lot more with less magnet students.

I'll say it again: provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students.

IAre you serious? I just posted the link to you.
Here it is, again
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search

That's one competition. It really doesn't answer my question.

Yes, it answers your question which was: "provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students. "
It is the mother of all STEM and it shows Blair achieves more with less STEM students.

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Poolesville has plenty of kids win Intel competition awards. How is that different? Again, it’s one competition. It’s far from a comprehensive comparison of the schools.

Sorry I misread the link. Yes it’s a big competition, but it’s one competition and Poolesville has plenty of representation. Work harder to prove your point.

I don't need to work harder, you asked for evidence and I provided it to you.
You just don't like the evidence and cannot admit fact.

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Anonymous wrote: Frankly, I do not give a rat's ass about the ranking. Does my kid have a good shot of getting stellar grades, great SAT and AP scores, learning the material, filling content gaps, having excellent EC activities at the end of 4 years? Is he willing to work hard and not depend on MCPS to spoon feed him? Am I willing to support him? Why would I care what the school rating of any other MCPS school is? Why do I care where Joe Shmoe goes? My student is a rising 9th grader in PHS SMACS program - so should he take it easy because by being in PHS he will automagically succeed?

None of the public and private schools in DMV is of the same caliber as Stuyvesant. We should try and concentrate on what is important.

Blair SMACS puts Stuyvesant to shame

I don't get all the Blair SMACS boosters on this forum ... It's a great program, but you all act like it's God gift to man.

Also, Stuyvesant is the #4 public HS in America on Niche. The number 1 MD high school on that site--Poolesville--is #30. Given how many high schools there are in the country, statistically anything in at least the top 100 is equivalent, so certainly MD high schools can't be said to "put Stuyvesant to shame."

Compare what Stuy have done with over 3000 magnet students with Blair SMACS 400 students and then come talk to me.

Regardless of what you might think, Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ continue to be ranked above Blair.

Give me concrete reasons why you think Blair should be ranked above those schools. Until then I'll maintain my position that the schools are roughly equivalent, given that those other three are whole-school magnets (or at least have magnet programs that are a larger percentage of the student body than at Blair).

Are you really that gullible?
On PAPER, they will always rank above Blair. They are all-Magnet schools (except for Poolesville which is three Quarter Magnet ). Also , Blair is minority -Majority, so they will never rank Blair higher.
But on the field performances, where it actually matters, none of them can match Blair. Blair outshines them all.

I keep asking for CONCRETE information to back up your argument and you refuse to provide any.

So I'll ask again: provide concrete data proving that Blair is better than Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

As for the majority-minority point: Stuy is only 81% minority.

Here is concrete evidence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search
Stuy is mostly Asian and white and All-magnet

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So because Blair has more URM it's ... better? My argument is it's ranked lower likely because it's not a whole school magnet, meaning it's probably ultimately equivalent to Stuy, Poolesville, and TJ.

Huh?????
Did you check the link for concrete evidence?
Blair is ranked lower on PAPER because it has more URM and it is a quarter magnet. But it achieves more, a lot more with less magnet students.

I'll say it again: provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students.

IAre you serious? I just posted the link to you.
Here it is, again
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Science_Talent_Search

That's one competition. It really doesn't answer my question.

Yes, it answers your question which was: "provide CONCRETE information proving Blair "achieves more" with its students. "
It is the mother of all STEM and it shows Blair achieves more with less STEM students.

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Poolesville has plenty of kids win Intel competition awards. How is that different? Again, it’s one competition. It’s far from a comprehensive comparison of the schools.

Sorry I misread the link. Yes it’s a big competition, but it’s one competition and Poolesville has plenty of representation. Work harder to prove your point.

I don't need to work harder, you asked for evidence and I provided it to you.
You just don't like the evidence and cannot admit fact.

You provided evidence from one competition. Prove it across others and your argument will be more credible.

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Also, Blair booster, by your metric Stuyvesant beats Blair because it’s had more Intel winners and finalists.