Typical SAHM with school aged kids day

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, this thread is really upsetting.

I have WOHM and SAHM and had all kinds of friends across the spectrum and I never encounter this kind of vitriol in real life.

Is this what women are thinking but don't say or is this just some tiny but very vocal minority?

I really home the latter.

I guess I fundamentally don't care whether another woman -- or man -- works full time, part time, stay at home -- whatever. I care what kind of friend/neighbor/citizen they are.

There are several of us who have said this but those posts get ignored in favor of the inflammatory ones.

I stay at home. I do not think it is right or necessary for everyone. I do not think working moms are not raising their own children. I do not think that there is anything wrong with daycare. I do not think working moms are more interesting than SAHM. I do not think that SAHM love their children more. I do not think that my marriage is unequal and unhappy, and I have no idea about yours because I'm not in it. I'm relieved every day that I have wonderful, close friends in real life who show me that most women are not like this to each other.

Same here. SAHM too, by the way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok- working moms win. They are superior and accomplish more and are happier than SAHMs. Now, can the thread either get back on topic or end??? This is so embarrassing and pathetic

+100

This is why I wish DCUM had a SAHM board. SAHMs are a minority here, like infertility and also a niche like real estate or travel. It would keep threads like these out of off topic (where this one started) and you could report easier when the WOHM peanut gallery comes in to derail anything positive or helpful.

Exactly. Could you imagine SAHMs coming in like attack dogs to derail a thread with "WOHM" in the subject line? IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. SAHMs are too nice I guess, and put up with it and I guess it goes unnoticed by the moderators of this forum or they just don't care enough and allow it to happen.

What board are you reading? There are plenty of threads about working moms asking for advice and stay at home moms jump on and say how sad it is.

I thought the same exact thing. "Those poor kids being raised by somebody else"

Right!?! And you're all SOOOO jealous and want to be us!

I am genuinely puzzled when SAHMs come on here and say working moms never get attacked ("maybe we're just too nice!" Hysterical.) Are they literally blind?

And are you also puzzled when SAHMs respond in kind to the extremely nasty posts attacking them, written by WOHMs? Do you ever read the incredibly bitter and inflammatory posts, written by WOHMs and find yourself puzzled by their obvious insecurity and hatred? Because I find that extremely puzzling, myself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok- working moms win. They are superior and accomplish more and are happier than SAHMs. Now, can the thread either get back on topic or end??? This is so embarrassing and pathetic

+100

This is why I wish DCUM had a SAHM board. SAHMs are a minority here, like infertility and also a niche like real estate or travel. It would keep threads like these out of off topic (where this one started) and you could report easier when the WOHM peanut gallery comes in to derail anything positive or helpful.

Exactly. Could you imagine SAHMs coming in like attack dogs to derail a thread with "WOHM" in the subject line? IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. SAHMs are too nice I guess, and put up with it and I guess it goes unnoticed by the moderators of this forum or they just don't care enough and allow it to happen.

What board are you reading? There are plenty of threads about working moms asking for advice and stay at home moms jump on and say how sad it is.

I thought the same exact thing. "Those poor kids being raised by somebody else"

Right!?! And you're all SOOOO jealous and want to be us!

I am genuinely puzzled when SAHMs come on here and say working moms never get attacked ("maybe we're just too nice!" Hysterical.) Are they literally blind?

And are you also puzzled when SAHMs respond in kind to the extremely nasty posts attacking them, written by WOHMs? Do you ever read the incredibly bitter and inflammatory posts, written by WOHMs and find yourself puzzled by their obvious insecurity and hatred? Because I find that extremely puzzling, myself.

I don't claim working moms never attack SAHMs. That's the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are immune from these types of criticisms levied at women (whether SAH or WOH) are the rare breed who can make a s**t load of money in a relatively short amount of time - I'm thinking part time docs and such, particularly the ones who work at night.

The rest of us will always be subjected to some sort of attack. When you're SAHM, you're lazy and not using your skills/education. When you're WOHM, you're allowing someone else to raise your kids.

I work FT, but from home 3 days a week, have excellent hours, and I STILL get all sorts of snarky comments from various people in my life. My mom thinks I've 'gone soft' because I work for the govt instead of private industry and therefore make about 20% less. My MIL constantly says 'The poor kids!' because they are at school/daycare from 8-4:30 everyday.

Every has an angle because they basically want you to reflect their own life choices. I just ignore them all.

I work nights 1-2 nights per week in the ER as a physician and get "how can you leave your kids at night" and "how can you work around so many germs and come home to your babies?"
And no one in my family will take my medical advice.
Oh and my personal favorite "why haven't you taken the baby to the doctor yet about that cough?"
Not. Kidding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok- working moms win. They are superior and accomplish more and are happier than SAHMs. Now, can the thread either get back on topic or end??? This is so embarrassing and pathetic

+100

This is why I wish DCUM had a SAHM board. SAHMs are a minority here, like infertility and also a niche like real estate or travel. It would keep threads like these out of off topic (where this one started) and you could report easier when the WOHM peanut gallery comes in to derail anything positive or helpful.

I can see your point.

Its been requested before but I think it was said nothing could be done to keep WOHMs out. But the infertility board is respectful and policed. I don't see why WOHMs want or need to chime in on SAHM threads unless they used to be a SAHM and are offering advice. I guess they can't help it.

Are you seriously comparing infertility to staying at home? The plight of the martyr SAHM!!

Absolutely not. Read slower if you have trouble comprehending.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok- working moms win. They are superior and accomplish more and are happier than SAHMs. Now, can the thread either get back on topic or end??? This is so embarrassing and pathetic

+100

This is why I wish DCUM had a SAHM board. SAHMs are a minority here, like infertility and also a niche like real estate or travel. It would keep threads like these out of off topic (where this one started) and you could report easier when the WOHM peanut gallery comes in to derail anything positive or helpful.

Exactly. Could you imagine SAHMs coming in like attack dogs to derail a thread with "WOHM" in the subject line? IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. SAHMs are too nice I guess, and put up with it and I guess it goes unnoticed by the moderators of this forum or they just don't care enough and allow it to happen.

What board are you reading? There are plenty of threads about working moms asking for advice and stay at home moms jump on and say how sad it is.

I thought the same exact thing. "Those poor kids being raised by somebody else"

Right!?! And you're all SOOOO jealous and want to be us!

I am genuinely puzzled when SAHMs come on here and say working moms never get attacked ("maybe we're just too nice!" Hysterical.) Are they literally blind?

Rarely see it. If I do its usually in retaliation for some nastiness by a WOMH against a SAHM - which I agree is immature and futile. HOWEVER I don't really go into threads for WOHMs. The point being made why go into a thread for SAHMs and trash them? What is the purpose there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, this thread is really upsetting.

I have WOHM and SAHM and had all kinds of friends across the spectrum and I never encounter this kind of vitriol in real life.

Is this what women are thinking but don't say or is this just some tiny but very vocal minority?

I really home the latter.

I guess I fundamentally don't care whether another woman -- or man -- works full time, part time, stay at home -- whatever. I care what kind of friend/neighbor/citizen they are.

I always think its just a couple of people who stir things up just to amuse themselves. I don't think half these people even believe the stuff they post. People have to learn not to take the bait and respond...but someone always does.

I am not into conspiracies but I swear its the same two or three "wohms" who troll sahm threads. Its the same tone and wording every time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, this thread is really upsetting.

I have WOHM and SAHM and had all kinds of friends across the spectrum and I never encounter this kind of vitriol in real life.

Is this what women are thinking but don't say or is this just some tiny but very vocal minority?

I really home the latter.

I guess I fundamentally don't care whether another woman -- or man -- works full time, part time, stay at home -- whatever. I care what kind of friend/neighbor/citizen they are.

I always think its just a couple of people who stir things up just to amuse themselves. I don't think half these people even believe the stuff they post. People have to learn not to take the bait and respond...but someone always does.

I am not into conspiracies but I swear its the same two or three "wohms" who troll sahm threads. Its the same tone and wording every time.

I agree. And the same shit is said every time. Never anything new. So can the SAHMs all start ignoring them? They are a waste of time.

[Anonymous]

Just out of curiosity- to the WOH moms in here who have been less than kind in your replies or who don't respect SAHM's with school aged kids- do you have SAHM friends in that situation who you are friends with?

I get how it's easy online to be different or more vicious than you would be IRL. I'm guilty of it at times. But I have a few WOH friends who I love- they are great moms who have beautiful families and I love them. I respect them and I know the feelings are mutual- and not because I work or don't work (though I work very part time teaching fitness). I'm curious if this vitriol is solely reserved for strangers or if you really have such a "hard time" with this that you actually don't befriend any SAHM moms?

[Anonymous]

IT WOULD BE GREAT IF A WOHM WOULD ANSWER THIS.

Why would a WOHM go into a thread titled "Typical SAHM with school aged kids day" unless they used to SAH and could offer advice about how they scheduled their day.

Seriously why go into a thread for SAHMs and trash them. What is the thrill there?

Don't you understand that doing so makes you look insecure and/or bitter and/or jealous? Even if you are not that is how it comes off. That is the impression you leave about WOHMs. Is that your intention?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, this thread is really upsetting.

I have WOHM and SAHM and had all kinds of friends across the spectrum and I never encounter this kind of vitriol in real life.

Is this what women are thinking but don't say or is this just some tiny but very vocal minority?

I really home the latter.

I guess I fundamentally don't care whether another woman -- or man -- works full time, part time, stay at home -- whatever. I care what kind of friend/neighbor/citizen they are.

I always think its just a couple of people who stir things up just to amuse themselves. I don't think half these people even believe the stuff they post. People have to learn not to take the bait and respond...but someone always does.

I am not into conspiracies but I swear its the same two or three "wohms" who troll sahm threads. Its the same tone and wording every time.

I agree. And the same shit is said every time. Never anything new. So can the SAHMs all start ignoring them? They are a waste of time.

I really wish SAHMs would either really petition for their own forum or get one thread going just for SAHMs and report the hell out of it to keep it civil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, this thread is really upsetting.

I have WOHM and SAHM and had all kinds of friends across the spectrum and I never encounter this kind of vitriol in real life.

Is this what women are thinking but don't say or is this just some tiny but very vocal minority?

I really home the latter.

I guess I fundamentally don't care whether another woman -- or man -- works full time, part time, stay at home -- whatever. I care what kind of friend/neighbor/citizen they are.

I always think its just a couple of people who stir things up just to amuse themselves. I don't think half these people even believe the stuff they post. People have to learn not to take the bait and respond...but someone always does.

I am not into conspiracies but I swear its the same two or three "wohms" who troll sahm threads. Its the same tone and wording every time.

Agree. And I also think it's these few women drumming up the stupid troll threads, just so they have something to unleash their vitriol on. They're so transparent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IT WOULD BE GREAT IF A WOHM WOULD ANSWER THIS.

Why would a WOHM go into a thread titled "Typical SAHM with school aged kids day" unless they used to SAH and could offer advice about how they scheduled their day.

Seriously why go into a thread for SAHMs and trash them. What is the thrill there?

Don't you understand that doing so makes you look insecure and/or bitter and/or jealous? Even if you are not that is how it comes off. That is the impression you leave about WOHMs. Is that your intention?

I agree. I asked this several times on this very thread. It was immediately buried by WOHM bullying SAHM. They are embarrassing themselves and they have no shame. Attack dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are immune from these types of criticisms levied at women (whether SAH or WOH) are the rare breed who can make a s**t load of money in a relatively short amount of time - I'm thinking part time docs and such, particularly the ones who work at night.

The rest of us will always be subjected to some sort of attack. When you're SAHM, you're lazy and not using your skills/education. When you're WOHM, you're allowing someone else to raise your kids.

I work FT, but from home 3 days a week, have excellent hours, and I STILL get all sorts of snarky comments from various people in my life. My mom thinks I've 'gone soft' because I work for the govt instead of private industry and therefore make about 20% less. My MIL constantly says 'The poor kids!' because they are at school/daycare from 8-4:30 everyday.

Every has an angle because they basically want you to reflect their own life choices. I just ignore them all.

I work nights 1-2 nights per week in the ER as a physician and get "how can you leave your kids at night" and "how can you work around so many germs and come home to your babies?"
And no one in my family will take my medical advice.
Oh and my personal favorite "why haven't you taken the baby to the doctor yet about that cough?"
Not. Kidding.

Are you insinuating you treat your own child (family member) isn't that unethical? Are you a pediatrician?

Its also strange that no one in your family will take your medical advice. Most doctors I know can't keep family and friends from asking them for advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok- working moms win. They are superior and accomplish more and are happier than SAHMs. Now, can the thread either get back on topic or end??? This is so embarrassing and pathetic

+100

This is why I wish DCUM had a SAHM board. SAHMs are a minority here, like infertility and also a niche like real estate or travel. It would keep threads like these out of off topic (where this one started) and you could report easier when the WOHM peanut gallery comes in to derail anything positive or helpful.

Exactly. Could you imagine SAHMs coming in like attack dogs to derail a thread with "WOHM" in the subject line? IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. SAHMs are too nice I guess, and put up with it and I guess it goes unnoticed by the moderators of this forum or they just don't care enough and allow it to happen.

What board are you reading? There are plenty of threads about working moms asking for advice and stay at home moms jump on and say how sad it is.

I thought the same exact thing. "Those poor kids being raised by somebody else"

Right!?! And you're all SOOOO jealous and want to be us!

I am genuinely puzzled when SAHMs come on here and say working moms never get attacked ("maybe we're just too nice!" Hysterical.) Are they literally blind?

And are you also puzzled when SAHMs respond in kind to the extremely nasty posts attacking them, written by WOHMs? Do you ever read the incredibly bitter and inflammatory posts, written by WOHMs and find yourself puzzled by their obvious insecurity and hatred? Because I find that extremely puzzling, myself.

I don't claim working moms never attack SAHMs. That's the difference.

Do you often live your life playing tit for tat?