$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

[Anonymous]

I had a chat with a young college student. He was a student at a regional university. His professor was Chinese, with undecipherable English. He could not understand anything the professor said. Further, the professor relied more on his lectures in his exams than on textbook information. The kid was understandably struggling.

Right here in America. We have students graduating all over the nation with Ph.D. qualifications - but the university hired a Chinese national who couldn't speak the native language here in America. The student sought assistance from the university, and the university's response was to tell the kid he's a racist.

Am I the only person who thinks this incident is beyond ridiculous? The kid's parents are paying tuition to have the university disrespect its students so badly they won't even hire someone who can communicate with the students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had a chat with a young college student. He was a student at a regional university. His professor was Chinese, with undecipherable English. He could not understand anything the professor said. Further, the professor relied more on his lectures in his exams than on textbook information. The kid was understandably struggling.

Right here in America. We have students graduating all over the nation with Ph.D. qualifications - but the university hired a Chinese national who couldn't speak the native language here in America. The student sought assistance from the university, and the university's response was to tell the kid he's a racist.

Am I the only person who thinks this incident is beyond ridiculous? The kid's parents are paying tuition to have the university disrespect its students so badly they won't even hire someone who can communicate with the students.

I remember when I was a CS student. The professor was delayed on the plane from China, he had a sub for a few days before he arrived. Fresh of the plane he stood up in front of the class and couldn't say a word. It was brutal they actually had to bring the sub back; he didn't even finish one class.

The thing is poor teaching is almost a feature. They can then use it as evidence that American students can't learn the material to justify bringing in more H-1bs such as themselves, meanwhile the schools are basically diploma mills for foreigners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had a chat with a young college student. He was a student at a regional university. His professor was Chinese, with undecipherable English. He could not understand anything the professor said. Further, the professor relied more on his lectures in his exams than on textbook information. The kid was understandably struggling.

Right here in America. We have students graduating all over the nation with Ph.D. qualifications - but the university hired a Chinese national who couldn't speak the native language here in America. The student sought assistance from the university, and the university's response was to tell the kid he's a racist.

Am I the only person who thinks this incident is beyond ridiculous? The kid's parents are paying tuition to have the university disrespect its students so badly they won't even hire someone who can communicate with the students.

It's because universities now only care about research which brings in grant money, not teaching.

If you want someone who speaks English to teach, you need to look at small liberal arts colleges that don't emphasize research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a chat with a young college student. He was a student at a regional university. His professor was Chinese, with undecipherable English. He could not understand anything the professor said. Further, the professor relied more on his lectures in his exams than on textbook information. The kid was understandably struggling.

Right here in America. We have students graduating all over the nation with Ph.D. qualifications - but the university hired a Chinese national who couldn't speak the native language here in America. The student sought assistance from the university, and the university's response was to tell the kid he's a racist.

Am I the only person who thinks this incident is beyond ridiculous? The kid's parents are paying tuition to have the university disrespect its students so badly they won't even hire someone who can communicate with the students.

It's because universities now only care about research which brings in grant money, not teaching.

If you want someone who speaks English to teach, you need to look at small liberal arts colleges that don't emphasize research.

But those dingbats don't even understand the economics of labor shortages.

[Anonymous]

Deciphering accented English is a valuable skill. MIT is the ultimate example of a research institution that only taught undergrads for the tax break (So we told ourselves. Unsure of veracity.) I honed that skill and it proves useful.

Teaching at one of the two big public Virginia universities, I became used to students complaining about "incomprehensible" professors that I knew. The complaints about the phenomenon are disproportionate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deciphering accented English is a valuable skill. MIT is the ultimate example of a research institution that only taught undergrads for the tax break (So we told ourselves. Unsure of veracity.) I honed that skill and it proves useful.

Teaching at one of the two big public Virginia universities, I became used to students complaining about "incomprehensible" professors that I knew. The complaints about the phenomenon are disproportionate.

You think your experience at MIT is the same as my Midwestern "poor boys" MIT, only when it's convenient for you, but since you think I'm in boss mode like you... I think I don't like the way you communicate, that's what I'm writing into the nasty letter to HR, and I speak reverse polish and want to hire an H-1B to take your place.

Decipher that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too much common sense for DCUM crowd. Wow! Expecting universities to train students for required working skills ! Oh the humanity!

Universities across the country are importing foreign workers on H-1B visas instead of hiring Americans who are qualified and available to do the job. We will not tolerate H-1B abuse in Florida institutions. That’s why I have directed the Florida Board of Governors to end this practice.

Florida leads the nation in higher education, and thousands of highly qualified Americans graduate from our colleges and universities every year. If any universities are truly struggling to find U.S. citizens to fill their job openings, they ought to evaluate their academic programs to determine why they cannot produce graduates who can be hired for these positions.

It would be nice if the USA made it possible for Universities to do this. First, they would need to put back in the tuition subsidies that used to exist. State schools used to be very close to free (you could earn the tuition through a summer job). This was because of massive state subsidies. In most nations, secondary education is close to free.

but second and most important we would need to fully fund K-12 education in all communities in the US. There are things you have to learn when you are young and your mind more malleable. Universities cannot replace this lack for students who are 18 and older. But most K-12 schools are no where close to doing their job. Only our least competent students become teachers these days due to low pay. There is not money to buy books, let alone tech.

So, ya, we import our doctors, scientists, tech innovators from countries that either have populations so large that their top earner provide enough people to get an adequate number with gifts in this area, or countries where there is good investment in education.

Massive state subsidies led to universities raising their costs.

no, the prices were stable until they removed the subsidies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a chat with a young college student. He was a student at a regional university. His professor was Chinese, with undecipherable English. He could not understand anything the professor said. Further, the professor relied more on his lectures in his exams than on textbook information. The kid was understandably struggling.

Right here in America. We have students graduating all over the nation with Ph.D. qualifications - but the university hired a Chinese national who couldn't speak the native language here in America. The student sought assistance from the university, and the university's response was to tell the kid he's a racist.

Am I the only person who thinks this incident is beyond ridiculous? The kid's parents are paying tuition to have the university disrespect its students so badly they won't even hire someone who can communicate with the students.

I remember when I was a CS student. The professor was delayed on the plane from China, he had a sub for a few days before he arrived. Fresh of the plane he stood up in front of the class and couldn't say a word. It was brutal they actually had to bring the sub back; he didn't even finish one class.

The thing is poor teaching is almost a feature. They can then use it as evidence that American students can't learn the material to justify bringing in more H-1bs such as themselves, meanwhile the schools are basically diploma mills for foreigners.

If we had to hire Americans who are excellent in their field to teach CS at Universities, no one could afford to pay the tuition. What do you think they make at google? You'd have to pay at least that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a chat with a young college student. He was a student at a regional university. His professor was Chinese, with undecipherable English. He could not understand anything the professor said. Further, the professor relied more on his lectures in his exams than on textbook information. The kid was understandably struggling.

Right here in America. We have students graduating all over the nation with Ph.D. qualifications - but the university hired a Chinese national who couldn't speak the native language here in America. The student sought assistance from the university, and the university's response was to tell the kid he's a racist.

Am I the only person who thinks this incident is beyond ridiculous? The kid's parents are paying tuition to have the university disrespect its students so badly they won't even hire someone who can communicate with the students.

I remember when I was a CS student. The professor was delayed on the plane from China, he had a sub for a few days before he arrived. Fresh of the plane he stood up in front of the class and couldn't say a word. It was brutal they actually had to bring the sub back; he didn't even finish one class.

The thing is poor teaching is almost a feature. They can then use it as evidence that American students can't learn the material to justify bringing in more H-1bs such as themselves, meanwhile the schools are basically diploma mills for foreigners.

If we had to hire Americans who are excellent in their field to teach CS at Universities, no one could afford to pay the tuition. What do you think they make at google? You'd have to pay at least that.

I'm not understanding what axe you're grinding.

No they wouldn't be paid more, because that's not how research university salaries work. And college is already crazy expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deciphering accented English is a valuable skill. MIT is the ultimate example of a research institution that only taught undergrads for the tax break (So we told ourselves. Unsure of veracity.) I honed that skill and it proves useful.

Teaching at one of the two big public Virginia universities, I became used to students complaining about "incomprehensible" professors that I knew. The complaints about the phenomenon are disproportionate.

I worked at an international institution many summer breaks. I too can easily understand heavily accented English. That doesn't excuse throwing kids under the bus the way this particular university threw this kid under the bus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a chat with a young college student. He was a student at a regional university. His professor was Chinese, with undecipherable English. He could not understand anything the professor said. Further, the professor relied more on his lectures in his exams than on textbook information. The kid was understandably struggling.

Right here in America. We have students graduating all over the nation with Ph.D. qualifications - but the university hired a Chinese national who couldn't speak the native language here in America. The student sought assistance from the university, and the university's response was to tell the kid he's a racist.

Am I the only person who thinks this incident is beyond ridiculous? The kid's parents are paying tuition to have the university disrespect its students so badly they won't even hire someone who can communicate with the students.

I remember when I was a CS student. The professor was delayed on the plane from China, he had a sub for a few days before he arrived. Fresh of the plane he stood up in front of the class and couldn't say a word. It was brutal they actually had to bring the sub back; he didn't even finish one class.

The thing is poor teaching is almost a feature. They can then use it as evidence that American students can't learn the material to justify bringing in more H-1bs such as themselves, meanwhile the schools are basically diploma mills for foreigners.

If we had to hire Americans who are excellent in their field to teach CS at Universities, no one could afford to pay the tuition. What do you think they make at google? You'd have to pay at least that.

So you're saying you are or aren't depressing the wages of CS professors at Universities. It seems like you're saying that you're paying less than market wages. Isn't that illegal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a chat with a young college student. He was a student at a regional university. His professor was Chinese, with undecipherable English. He could not understand anything the professor said. Further, the professor relied more on his lectures in his exams than on textbook information. The kid was understandably struggling.

Right here in America. We have students graduating all over the nation with Ph.D. qualifications - but the university hired a Chinese national who couldn't speak the native language here in America. The student sought assistance from the university, and the university's response was to tell the kid he's a racist.

Am I the only person who thinks this incident is beyond ridiculous? The kid's parents are paying tuition to have the university disrespect its students so badly they won't even hire someone who can communicate with the students.

It's because universities now only care about research which brings in grant money, not teaching.

If you want someone who speaks English to teach, you need to look at small liberal arts colleges that don't emphasize research.

But those dingbats don't even understand the economics of labor shortages.

I consider labor shortages wonderful. I have never known anything bad to come from a labor shortage, and what we are doing with our immigration policy is keeping the labor market in constant surplus.

Vernon Briggs
Cornell Labor Economist

The underlying truth about the immigration battle is that is is fundamentally between those with an insatiable appetite for more cheap, disposable, foreign workers, and those who embrace the social good of tight labor markets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a chat with a young college student. He was a student at a regional university. His professor was Chinese, with undecipherable English. He could not understand anything the professor said. Further, the professor relied more on his lectures in his exams than on textbook information. The kid was understandably struggling.

Right here in America. We have students graduating all over the nation with Ph.D. qualifications - but the university hired a Chinese national who couldn't speak the native language here in America. The student sought assistance from the university, and the university's response was to tell the kid he's a racist.

Am I the only person who thinks this incident is beyond ridiculous? The kid's parents are paying tuition to have the university disrespect its students so badly they won't even hire someone who can communicate with the students.

I remember when I was a CS student. The professor was delayed on the plane from China, he had a sub for a few days before he arrived. Fresh of the plane he stood up in front of the class and couldn't say a word. It was brutal they actually had to bring the sub back; he didn't even finish one class.

The thing is poor teaching is almost a feature. They can then use it as evidence that American students can't learn the material to justify bringing in more H-1bs such as themselves, meanwhile the schools are basically diploma mills for foreigners.

If we had to hire Americans who are excellent in their field to teach CS at Universities, no one could afford to pay the tuition. What do you think they make at google? You'd have to pay at least that.

So you're saying you are or aren't depressing the wages of CS professors at Universities. It seems like you're saying that you're paying less than market wages. Isn't that illegal?

That is the intent of h1b. Hirer cheaper disposable labor to replace US citizens

It is working as bush intended

[Anonymous]

Everyday more progress and more fraud uncovered. Read how a subsidiary of Home Depot has used H1B and OPT to replace US citizens.

An insider provides an extensive report on HD Supply, a subsidiary of Home Depot, and how it is firing Americans and replacing entire teams with unqualified Indian H-1Bs or offshore teams. HD Supply is based in Atlanta and is responsible for running the HD Pro Desk in all Home Depot stores. Its new CIO is an Indian from Canada, Charles D'Souza, and since his appointment, "most if not all managerial roles under the CIO that have been filled, have been filled with Indians either in India, or former or current visa holders in the U.S." The insider points out that HD Supply is no longer hiring Americans and despite new Indians arriving on a regular basis, HD Supply's corporate website has no real job openings.

The insider goes on to say that HD Supply's new Indian hires "can barely speak English and have no clue how to do their jobs, yet in their welcome emails, appear extremely qualified and educated." To make matters worse, HD Supply has recently purchased a new building in India they're calling the Global Technology Center (GTC) and are staffing it with QA and customer support teams. The GTC recently became operational and HD Supply is discussing more overseas expansion while "the American teams keep asking (very publicly) what's going to happen to their jobs, and getting no answers other than ramping up RTO efforts for employees who do not live near an office."

A few days ago, HD Supply held a company-wide quarterly meeting, where the insider's team (about 350 people) posted questions to management. While management normally reads and answers all employee questions, "this time, they did not present or address a single posted question." The insider provided screenshots of some of those questions; "the number to the left denotes the number of upvotes. These were not the final numbers, the poll was closed down before it completed so I couldn't see the final numbers." The insider says this is odd because "typically they aim for 100% feedback ratios for the Q&A and will hound managers until their teams reach 100%, this time it was closed early..."

Instead of answering the questions posted, "management doubled down on return to office policies (RTO) and sold us a story about how offshoring is good for the bottom line, even at a time where that is not a concern for our business." Management also stated that remote employees are ineligible for promotions or benefit increases, which are reserved for office workers. Despite this, "the company has been hiring remotely for almost 6 years, with employees in 30 states, but the company is only present in 4. They're ramping up RTO specifically for employees in areas where the company no longer has a presence in an effort to push Americans out." The insider shares info about a number of employees who moved to Florida to be near one of HD Supply's offices only for the company to close said office during COVID and demand a return to the office less than two years later; "what office?"

After doubling down on these policies, HD Supply's new Indian (GTC) teams "introduced themselves and shared their grand vision for the location. The entire 2 hour presentation felt like a massive middle finger to all of the hardworking Americans that work for HD Supply and Home Depot, we have been abandoned." The insider says after this meeting, the already poor morale of American employees was destroyed "and employees are running for the hills, including myself," since management insists on moving more IT/corporate functions to India and refuses to promote any employee who is not physically working from an office, which coincidentally happens to be most of the American IT organization. Since management will not tell the American employees when the offshoring stops, they assume it will stop "when the entire IT org is in India." The insider claims that Home Depot itself is doing the same thing, as HD Supply's Indian CIO worked for Home Depot Canada before being moved over to HD Supply.

so glad Democrats push for more H1Bs, to help our US citizens. thank you Democrats.

[Anonymous]

While Congress sticks its collective head in the sand, Americans are getting discriminated against in their own country.

People are so afraid of getting called racist, they'd rather see themselves and their friends disposed of than to call out what is happening.