$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

[Anonymous]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-h1b-visa-bill-100000-fee/

Do you think this will boost jobs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-h1b-visa-bill-100000-fee/

Do you think this will boost jobs?

Make America dumb again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-h1b-visa-bill-100000-fee/

Do you think this will boost jobs?

No, just more offshoring.

I've worked in the tech industry since 1998. More and more jobs are going offshore. This will just push even more.

Companies are willing to accept 60% efficiency and accuracy for 30% of the pay.

[Anonymous]

I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.

Outsourcing means we don't get the income tax revenue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-h1b-visa-bill-100000-fee/

Do you think this will boost jobs?

No, just more offshoring.

I've worked in the tech industry since 1998. More and more jobs are going offshore. This will just push even more.

Companies are willing to accept 60% efficiency and accuracy for 30% of the pay.

It's more like 30% efficiency and accuracy. I have worked with teams of offshored resources, and (hoping this is an outlier) but none of them knows how to do anything beyond the basic, they all have to help each other and kind of secretly train up the really behind ones. I always wonder if the folks that have an inkling of a clue get really irritated at their weak coworkers and ever just want to let them sink? I wonder why they don't?

[Anonymous]

Oil and gas have moved engineering and research to India so I guess we needed to nudge the tech sector into leaving as well.

[Anonymous]

He categorically did something that is for sure.

This is why we voted for him!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-h1b-visa-bill-100000-fee/

Do you think this will boost jobs?

No, just more offshoring.

I've worked in the tech industry since 1998. More and more jobs are going offshore. This will just push even more.

Companies are willing to accept 60% efficiency and accuracy for 30% of the pay.

It's more like 30% efficiency and accuracy. I have worked with teams of offshored resources, and (hoping this is an outlier) but none of them knows how to do anything beyond the basic, they all have to help each other and kind of secretly train up the really behind ones. I always wonder if the folks that have an inkling of a clue get really irritated at their weak coworkers and ever just want to let them sink? I wonder why they don't?

Corporate heads don't care. It saves a ton of money. All they care about is profit. They don't care that you (and me), a peon, get frustrated with their work product.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He categorically did something that is for sure.

This is why we voted for him!

You voted for idiocy.

It won't have the intended effect. Just look at the effect of the tariffs on the economy and job market.

[Anonymous]

You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.

Outsourcing means we don't get the income tax revenue.

I'm fine with that. All the h-1b end up in red zone real estate areas which means basically they degrade services, because they don't build more pools, schools, roads or houses, and that isn't cool. We don't want their tax money; we want spaces in our schools. Great example is the whole Harvard rat race. Only so many spots, if they go to international students, some domestic student doesn't get to go. There are many things like this. As much as they say more the merrier, it just isn't the case. Maybe in some instances, but mostly not.

I'm totally fine with corporations taking an h-1b job and offshoring it. They threaten to do so, but here is the thing. When these people work in their Native countries they won't be nearly as motivated. The companies have to work around local labor laws and practices. Like government Holidays, there are hundreds of Hindu Holidays. The workers in many cases can easily by poached. They won't be able to leverage an English-speaking workforce to train them and so on. They won't be willing to trade lower wages for a "green card" when there is no green card to be had. The foreigners aren't going to pay to go to school here in the US just to go home and work. Not to mention infrastructure. Many of the schools in India don't even really have computers or networks. They can't afford to subsidize hardware like workers do in the US, they aren't going to show up with Mac Book Pros ready to fill out your ten-page work history and Obamacare worksheet.

It changes the calculation very much working with Natives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.

Outsourcing means we don't get the income tax revenue.

I'm fine with that. All the h-1b end up in red zone real estate areas which means basically they degrade services, because they don't build more pools, schools, roads or houses, and that isn't cool. We don't want their tax money; we want spaces in our schools. Great example is the whole Harvard rat race. Only so many spots, if they go to international students, some domestic student doesn't get to go. There are many things like this. As much as they say more the merrier, it just isn't the case. Maybe in some instances, but mostly not.

I'm totally fine with corporations taking an h-1b job and offshoring it. They threaten to do so, but here is the thing. When these people work in their Native countries they won't be nearly as motivated. The companies have to work around local labor laws and practices. Like government Holidays, there are hundreds of Hindu Holidays. The workers in many cases can easily by poached. They won't be able to leverage an English-speaking workforce to train them and so on. They won't be willing to trade lower wages for a "green card" when there is no green card to be had. The foreigners aren't going to pay to go to school here in the US just to go home and work. Not to mention infrastructure. Many of the schools in India don't even really have computers or networks. They can't afford to subsidize hardware like workers do in the US, they aren't going to show up with Mac Book Pros ready to fill out your ten-page work history and Obamacare worksheet.

It changes the calculation very much working with Natives.

It won't bring back the jobs. Trump promised to do that with manufacturing jobs, and that didn't pan out, either.

Again, companies don't care about 30% efficiency or accuracy. They care about costs.

You would be amazed at how proficient in English these foreigners are. I work with teams across the world.

Not sure what obamacare worksheet has to do with this, but, I'm very thankful for obamacare. It's allowed people I know to finally get healthcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.

Outsourcing means we don't get the income tax revenue.

I'm fine with that. All the h-1b end up in red zone real estate areas which means basically they degrade services, because they don't build more pools, schools, roads or houses, and that isn't cool. We don't want their tax money; we want spaces in our schools. Great example is the whole Harvard rat race. Only so many spots, if they go to international students, some domestic student doesn't get to go. There are many things like this. As much as they say more the merrier, it just isn't the case. Maybe in some instances, but mostly not.

I'm totally fine with corporations taking an h-1b job and offshoring it. They threaten to do so, but here is the thing. When these people work in their Native countries they won't be nearly as motivated. The companies have to work around local labor laws and practices. Like government Holidays, there are hundreds of Hindu Holidays. The workers in many cases can easily by poached. They won't be able to leverage an English-speaking workforce to train them and so on. They won't be willing to trade lower wages for a "green card" when there is no green card to be had. The foreigners aren't going to pay to go to school here in the US just to go home and work. Not to mention infrastructure. Many of the schools in India don't even really have computers or networks. They can't afford to subsidize hardware like workers do in the US, they aren't going to show up with Mac Book Pros ready to fill out your ten-page work history and Obamacare worksheet.

It changes the calculation very much working with Natives.

It won't bring back the jobs. Trump promised to do that with manufacturing jobs, and that didn't pan out, either.

Again, companies don't care about 30% efficiency or accuracy. They care about costs.

You would be amazed at how proficient in English these foreigners are. I work with teams across the world.

Not sure what obamacare worksheet has to do with this, but, I'm very thankful for obamacare. It's allowed people I know to finally get healthcare.

I thought I explained it very well. Yes, companies care about costs, they would have already done it if they could have controlled costs in that manner.

I for one get tired of having to work with people that struggle with basic English. You have to speak so slow then explain everything over and over again. Then clean up after them when they don't understand.

[Anonymous]

Why would any foreigner want to come here and be subjected to what the South Koreans endured.