Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC

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Anonymous wrote:If you get out of D.C., most Americans broadly agree that Federal bureaucracy is bloated and burdensome. Its sprawl contributes substantially both to our budget deficit, which in turn drives our debt up, crowding out capital for private investment which would in turn drive productivity. At the same time, the larger bureaucracy gets, the more things it sticks its nose into things to feel busy, which likewise drives productivity down. DoE is probably the worst. It is very new (Carter Administration) and our national education performance has plummeted since its inception. There is no evidence that it is effective at doing anything other than increasing local district workloads and stifling educational innovation, and it costs a lot of money. At this point, elimination would at worst be a natural experiment that fails; our education can't get much worse. At best we will see a renaissance as local schools innovate and best practices are unearthed. I understand that many D.C. residents are terrified at what this and other moves will do to our local economy, but nationally, there is broad support for this. It's not hard to see why.

Sigh. So much incorrect information. Let's start with this does nothing to local DC economy. He wants you to believe that so that when we tell you this move is a mistake, you think we are acting out of self interest for our economy. We're not. Our economy will be just fine one way or the other. You are allowing yourself to be manipulated.

So says a professional manipulator from the edu-industrial lobby complex.

The Charter School lobby is heavily involved here too. They want that voucher money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

DoE doesn’t do curriculum really that’s the states.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you get out of D.C., most Americans broadly agree that Federal bureaucracy is bloated and burdensome. Its sprawl contributes substantially both to our budget deficit, which in turn drives our debt up, crowding out capital for private investment which would in turn drive productivity. At the same time, the larger bureaucracy gets, the more things it sticks its nose into things to feel busy, which likewise drives productivity down. DoE is probably the worst. It is very new (Carter Administration) and our national education performance has plummeted since its inception. There is no evidence that it is effective at doing anything other than increasing local district workloads and stifling educational innovation, and it costs a lot of money. At this point, elimination would at worst be a natural experiment that fails; our education can't get much worse. At best we will see a renaissance as local schools innovate and best practices are unearthed. I understand that many D.C. residents are terrified at what this and other moves will do to our local economy, but nationally, there is broad support for this. It's not hard to see why.

Sigh. So much incorrect information. Let's start with this does nothing to local DC economy. He wants you to believe that so that when we tell you this move is a mistake, you think we are acting out of self interest for our economy. We're not. Our economy will be just fine one way or the other. You are allowing yourself to be manipulated.

So says a professional manipulator from the edu-industrial lobby complex.

The Charter School lobby is heavily involved here too. They want that voucher money.

It’s all about the adults chasing money in this space. The kids, well, we saw in COVID, not so much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

DoE doesn’t do curriculum really that’s the states.

So, the DoE exists to do what exactly?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

DoE doesn’t do curriculum really that’s the states.

So, the DoE exists to do what exactly?

Research and data track, administer different grants and funds, and hold schools accountable for special education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

This.

We cracked the atom, landed on the moon, and became the largest most dynamic economy on the planet all before the educational labor establishment incorporated their lobbying team in the DoEd. It’s entirely a captured special interest operation.

We also score below most developed countries in math, science, and reading. We could not currently function as a country without the brain drain from countries without Departments of Education. My company grabs every Ukrainian refugee they can find because they are much better educated and have more current tech knowledge. After World War II, my grandfather and his three brothers -- who never would have had access to any higher education -- used the GI to study engineering. All worked for big companies. My father and many of his cousins went into either engineering, math, economics, computer science or similar "hard" fields. So far the college kids in the family are taking sports management, communications, English, teaching, and general studies.

All the good stuff you cite happened before the creation of the department and the bad after. Hmm.

The department of education has existed in some form since 1867. It’s been around in many forms, including being combined with other cabinet agencies, at various times. But it’s been performing the functions for a long time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

Do you know why the DOE was created?

Also, some backward states will have a low bar for academic performance and measurements, like they could force teachers to teach creationism in science rather than actual science. Those kids will be at a disadvantage for college admissions. Oh, that's right.. MAGA don't think people should go to college, except for the children of MAGA leaders. I guess your goal is to keep the base stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a former Virginian and live in Lenexa, KS - a “red” state. Trust me, we’ll do just fine if we eliminated all payments to DC to get back back funding, but with certain strings attached.

This really shouldn’t even be a political thing. My great grandmother was educated in a log cabin with a slate and chalk tablet and sharing books. She read and studied insatiably and was very well educated.

Um.. your great grandmother didn't live in a tech heavy society. She lived in a society where a HS education could get you a decent paying job. That's not the case anymore.

Wow, some people are seriously dumb about education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

DoE doesn’t do curriculum really that’s the states.

So, the DoE exists to do what exactly?

Research and data track, administer different grants and funds, and hold schools accountable for special education.

You left out enforcing Title IX. I'll leave you to figure out the irony of MAGA wanting to eliminate the Department of Education...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you get out of D.C., most Americans broadly agree that Federal bureaucracy is bloated and burdensome. Its sprawl contributes substantially both to our budget deficit, which in turn drives our debt up, crowding out capital for private investment which would in turn drive productivity. At the same time, the larger bureaucracy gets, the more things it sticks its nose into things to feel busy, which likewise drives productivity down. DoE is probably the worst. It is very new (Carter Administration) and our national education performance has plummeted since its inception. There is no evidence that it is effective at doing anything other than increasing local district workloads and stifling educational innovation, and it costs a lot of money. At this point, elimination would at worst be a natural experiment that fails; our education can't get much worse. At best we will see a renaissance as local schools innovate and best practices are unearthed. I understand that many D.C. residents are terrified at what this and other moves will do to our local economy, but nationally, there is broad support for this. It's not hard to see why.

Sigh. So much incorrect information. Let's start with this does nothing to local DC economy. He wants you to believe that so that when we tell you this move is a mistake, you think we are acting out of self interest for our economy. We're not. Our economy will be just fine one way or the other. You are allowing yourself to be manipulated.

So says a professional manipulator from the edu-industrial lobby complex.

The Charter School lobby is heavily involved here too. They want that voucher money.

It’s all about the adults chasing money in this space. The kids, well, we saw in COVID, not so much.

If we simply had small class sizes based on student need and pay up for highly skilled teachers, we wouldn’t be having these problems. But how would the curriculum, edtech, textbook, and testing companies make their money? There are a ton of corporations skimming off the top in public education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

Do you know why the DOE was created?

Also, some backward states will have a low bar for academic performance and measurements, like they could force teachers to teach creationism in science rather than actual science. Those kids will be at a disadvantage for college admissions. Oh, that's right.. MAGA don't think people should go to college, except for the children of MAGA leaders. I guess your goal is to keep the base stupid.

Are there creationist colleges? They would have an advantage in getting admitted to those.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

There is no curriculum mandated by the Federal Government.

So the DoE does what? Take a cut of the grant money before sending back to the states?

Imagine you have a kid applying to college. Without FAFSA, they would need to fill out a financial aid for for every school they apply to.
Imagine you have a special needs kid. Without the DOE, your kid is SOL. You will be forced to support that kid for the rest of your life and hope there is someone there available to care for them, since they won't have received any training or education to make it on their own.

Sink or swim, baby!

There was a story about someone who voted for Trump, and then recently realized his plans for the DOE. She has a SN child and is now worried about the IEP for her kid.

You can't make this stuff up. Stooooopid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

There is no curriculum mandated by the Federal Government.

So the DoE does what? Take a cut of the grant money before sending back to the states?

Imagine you have a kid applying to college. Without FAFSA, they would need to fill out a financial aid for for every school they apply to.
Imagine you have a special needs kid. Without the DOE, your kid is SOL. You will be forced to support that kid for the rest of your life and hope there is someone there available to care for them, since they won't have received any training or education to make it on their own.

Sink or swim, baby!

There was a story about someone who voted for Trump, and then recently realized his plans for the DOE. She has a SN child and is now worried about the IEP for her kid.

You can't make this stuff up. Stooooopid.

+1
I know someone who voted for Trump, is a former teacher, has two children with IEPs and welp, too bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.

Do you know why the DOE was created?

Also, some backward states will have a low bar for academic performance and measurements, like they could force teachers to teach creationism in science rather than actual science. Those kids will be at a disadvantage for college admissions. Oh, that's right.. MAGA don't think people should go to college, except for the children of MAGA leaders. I guess your goal is to keep the base stupid.

Are there creationist colleges? They would have an advantage in getting admitted to those.

Maybe Oral Roberts college or Liberty?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why? I looked up and DC is ranked #16 in education in the country. That’s not a bad rank.

The top 10 best educated states are all blue states. It won’t change them. The poor states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, etc will be negatively affected.

https://scholaroo.com/report/state-education-rankings/

New York is ranked 6th.
California is ranked 40th.

Yes, but the bottom 10 are all red or purple states that voted for Trump, save one, NM, which is a poor state with a lot of native Americans.

Top 10 are all blue states, except PA, a purple state.