DDOT's latest plan to destroy traffic, Georgia Avenue edition

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Anonymous wrote:It is proposing to reduce Georgia Avenue to single lane in each direction because they want to make the other lanes bus-only.

In the understatement of the year, DDOT says "current peak traffic volumes cannot be accommodated by a single lane of traffic" and "there will be increased travel times."

The obvious problems here are:

1. Georgia Avenue will become gridlocked, always

2. Very few people ride the bus, and this isn't going to change that.

3. If you live within a half mile of Georgia Avenue in either direction, you can expect an enormous increase in traffic on your street as tens of thousands of drivers cut through side streets to avoid Georgia Avenue.

4. The city says this is needed to reduce speeding. It's worth nothing that a grand total of 9 people in Washington DC were killed by speeding drivers in 2022, the latest year from the police statistics.

https://buspriority.ddot.dc.gov/pages/georgiaavenw

5. That enormous increase in traffic on the secondary and tertiary streets of Ward 4, where a gazillion little kids live, will result in children being killed.

If that is sincerely your concern, then here's what you should do: ask DDOT for lots of speed humps and raised crosswalks on these streets. It sounds like those streets already aren't safe right now.

Why? The question is whether or not the proposed measures will do what you claim. You claim that there is no spill over traffic we claim that there is. You claim that reducing speed is all that matters. We claim that people don't speed during rush hour, that most of the accidents happen during rush hour, and that the changes will make things worse an ld will cause more accidents during rush hour. You pretend that none of that detail or context matters.

Based on the existing streets where these ideas have been implemented the data quite clearly shows that they make things worse. But go on pretending that you live near Georgia and give a damn about any of this. The fact of the matter is that there have been more deaths and more accidents since DC started doing this. Physician heal thyself.

And while we're at it, stop trying to cover for an obvious mental patient. There is no house with three plus trees in the front yard, a driveway, and an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop near Georgia Ave

Why? Because the streets are dangerous. You said so yourself. Speed humps and raised crosswalks will make those streets safer.

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live on Georgia Avenue, or even people who live in the Georgia Avenue corridor.

Which still comes down to one simple question. Do these measures make things safer? The data says no, they make things worse.

what data?

The accident and death rate which has gone up on both the Connecicut and 16th Street corridors since traffic "diets" were implemented in 2021.

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Anonymous wrote:It is proposing to reduce Georgia Avenue to single lane in each direction because they want to make the other lanes bus-only.

In the understatement of the year, DDOT says "current peak traffic volumes cannot be accommodated by a single lane of traffic" and "there will be increased travel times."

The obvious problems here are:

1. Georgia Avenue will become gridlocked, always

2. Very few people ride the bus, and this isn't going to change that.

3. If you live within a half mile of Georgia Avenue in either direction, you can expect an enormous increase in traffic on your street as tens of thousands of drivers cut through side streets to avoid Georgia Avenue.

4. The city says this is needed to reduce speeding. It's worth nothing that a grand total of 9 people in Washington DC were killed by speeding drivers in 2022, the latest year from the police statistics.

https://buspriority.ddot.dc.gov/pages/georgiaavenw

5. That enormous increase in traffic on the secondary and tertiary streets of Ward 4, where a gazillion little kids live, will result in children being killed.

If that is sincerely your concern, then here's what you should do: ask DDOT for lots of speed humps and raised crosswalks on these streets. It sounds like those streets already aren't safe right now.

Why? The question is whether or not the proposed measures will do what you claim. You claim that there is no spill over traffic we claim that there is. You claim that reducing speed is all that matters. We claim that people don't speed during rush hour, that most of the accidents happen during rush hour, and that the changes will make things worse an ld will cause more accidents during rush hour. You pretend that none of that detail or context matters.

Based on the existing streets where these ideas have been implemented the data quite clearly shows that they make things worse. But go on pretending that you live near Georgia and give a damn about any of this. The fact of the matter is that there have been more deaths and more accidents since DC started doing this. Physician heal thyself.

And while we're at it, stop trying to cover for an obvious mental patient. There is no house with three plus trees in the front yard, a driveway, and an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop near Georgia Ave

Why? Because the streets are dangerous. You said so yourself. Speed humps and raised crosswalks will make those streets safer.

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live on Georgia Avenue, or even people who live in the Georgia Avenue corridor.

Which still comes down to one simple question. Do these measures make things safer? The data says no, they make things worse.

what data?

The accident and death rate which has gone up on both the Connecicut and 16th Street corridors since traffic "diets" were implemented in 2021.

those don’t involve speed humps and raised crosswalks ….

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Anonymous wrote:It is proposing to reduce Georgia Avenue to single lane in each direction because they want to make the other lanes bus-only.

In the understatement of the year, DDOT says "current peak traffic volumes cannot be accommodated by a single lane of traffic" and "there will be increased travel times."

The obvious problems here are:

1. Georgia Avenue will become gridlocked, always

2. Very few people ride the bus, and this isn't going to change that.

3. If you live within a half mile of Georgia Avenue in either direction, you can expect an enormous increase in traffic on your street as tens of thousands of drivers cut through side streets to avoid Georgia Avenue.

4. The city says this is needed to reduce speeding. It's worth nothing that a grand total of 9 people in Washington DC were killed by speeding drivers in 2022, the latest year from the police statistics.

https://buspriority.ddot.dc.gov/pages/georgiaavenw

5. That enormous increase in traffic on the secondary and tertiary streets of Ward 4, where a gazillion little kids live, will result in children being killed.

If that is sincerely your concern, then here's what you should do: ask DDOT for lots of speed humps and raised crosswalks on these streets. It sounds like those streets already aren't safe right now.

Why? The question is whether or not the proposed measures will do what you claim. You claim that there is no spill over traffic we claim that there is. You claim that reducing speed is all that matters. We claim that people don't speed during rush hour, that most of the accidents happen during rush hour, and that the changes will make things worse an ld will cause more accidents during rush hour. You pretend that none of that detail or context matters.

Based on the existing streets where these ideas have been implemented the data quite clearly shows that they make things worse. But go on pretending that you live near Georgia and give a damn about any of this. The fact of the matter is that there have been more deaths and more accidents since DC started doing this. Physician heal thyself.

And while we're at it, stop trying to cover for an obvious mental patient. There is no house with three plus trees in the front yard, a driveway, and an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop near Georgia Ave

Why? Because the streets are dangerous. You said so yourself. Speed humps and raised crosswalks will make those streets safer.

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live on Georgia Avenue, or even people who live in the Georgia Avenue corridor.

Which still comes down to one simple question. Do these measures make things safer? The data says no, they make things worse.

what data?

The accident and death rate which has gone up on both the Connecicut and 16th Street corridors since traffic "diets" were implemented in 2021.

those don’t involve speed humps and raised crosswalks ….

Has anybody proposed speed humps or raised crosswalks for Georgia (or Connecticut/16th)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is proposing to reduce Georgia Avenue to single lane in each direction because they want to make the other lanes bus-only.

In the understatement of the year, DDOT says "current peak traffic volumes cannot be accommodated by a single lane of traffic" and "there will be increased travel times."

The obvious problems here are:

1. Georgia Avenue will become gridlocked, always

2. Very few people ride the bus, and this isn't going to change that.

3. If you live within a half mile of Georgia Avenue in either direction, you can expect an enormous increase in traffic on your street as tens of thousands of drivers cut through side streets to avoid Georgia Avenue.

4. The city says this is needed to reduce speeding. It's worth nothing that a grand total of 9 people in Washington DC were killed by speeding drivers in 2022, the latest year from the police statistics.

https://buspriority.ddot.dc.gov/pages/georgiaavenw

5. That enormous increase in traffic on the secondary and tertiary streets of Ward 4, where a gazillion little kids live, will result in children being killed.

If that is sincerely your concern, then here's what you should do: ask DDOT for lots of speed humps and raised crosswalks on these streets. It sounds like those streets already aren't safe right now.

Why? The question is whether or not the proposed measures will do what you claim. You claim that there is no spill over traffic we claim that there is. You claim that reducing speed is all that matters. We claim that people don't speed during rush hour, that most of the accidents happen during rush hour, and that the changes will make things worse an ld will cause more accidents during rush hour. You pretend that none of that detail or context matters.

Based on the existing streets where these ideas have been implemented the data quite clearly shows that they make things worse. But go on pretending that you live near Georgia and give a damn about any of this. The fact of the matter is that there have been more deaths and more accidents since DC started doing this. Physician heal thyself.

And while we're at it, stop trying to cover for an obvious mental patient. There is no house with three plus trees in the front yard, a driveway, and an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop near Georgia Ave

Why? Because the streets are dangerous. You said so yourself. Speed humps and raised crosswalks will make those streets safer.

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live on Georgia Avenue, or even people who live in the Georgia Avenue corridor.

Tell me any location in DC with 3 plus trees in the front yard and a driveway near an elementary school all of which is near both a synogogue and a bubble tea shop

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Use of Georgia Avenue is also not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Glad that you're at least tacitly acknowledging that that PP is either hallucinating, lying or lives no where near here. Regardless they should STFU

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Anonymous wrote:It is proposing to reduce Georgia Avenue to single lane in each direction because they want to make the other lanes bus-only.

In the understatement of the year, DDOT says "current peak traffic volumes cannot be accommodated by a single lane of traffic" and "there will be increased travel times."

The obvious problems here are:

1. Georgia Avenue will become gridlocked, always

2. Very few people ride the bus, and this isn't going to change that.

3. If you live within a half mile of Georgia Avenue in either direction, you can expect an enormous increase in traffic on your street as tens of thousands of drivers cut through side streets to avoid Georgia Avenue.

4. The city says this is needed to reduce speeding. It's worth nothing that a grand total of 9 people in Washington DC were killed by speeding drivers in 2022, the latest year from the police statistics.

https://buspriority.ddot.dc.gov/pages/georgiaavenw

5. That enormous increase in traffic on the secondary and tertiary streets of Ward 4, where a gazillion little kids live, will result in children being killed.

If that is sincerely your concern, then here's what you should do: ask DDOT for lots of speed humps and raised crosswalks on these streets. It sounds like those streets already aren't safe right now.

Why? The question is whether or not the proposed measures will do what you claim. You claim that there is no spill over traffic we claim that there is. You claim that reducing speed is all that matters. We claim that people don't speed during rush hour, that most of the accidents happen during rush hour, and that the changes will make things worse an ld will cause more accidents during rush hour. You pretend that none of that detail or context matters.

Based on the existing streets where these ideas have been implemented the data quite clearly shows that they make things worse. But go on pretending that you live near Georgia and give a damn about any of this. The fact of the matter is that there have been more deaths and more accidents since DC started doing this. Physician heal thyself.

And while we're at it, stop trying to cover for an obvious mental patient. There is no house with three plus trees in the front yard, a driveway, and an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop near Georgia Ave

Why? Because the streets are dangerous. You said so yourself. Speed humps and raised crosswalks will make those streets safer.

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live on Georgia Avenue, or even people who live in the Georgia Avenue corridor.

Tell me any location in DC with 3 plus trees in the front yard and a driveway near an elementary school all of which is near both a synogogue and a bubble tea shop

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Use of Georgia Avenue is also not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Glad that you're at least tacitly acknowledging that that PP is either hallucinating, lying or lives no where near here. Regardless they should STFU

So it's ok for DDOT to disregard the desires of people who want to drive on Georgia Avenue but don't live within the Georgia Avenue corridor in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:It is proposing to reduce Georgia Avenue to single lane in each direction because they want to make the other lanes bus-only.

In the understatement of the year, DDOT sa hiys "current peak traffic volumes cannot be accommodated by a single lane of traffic" and "there will be increased travel times."

The obvious problems here are:

1. Georgia Avenue will become gridlocked, always

2. Very few people ride the bus, and this isn't going to change that.

3. If you live within a half mile of Georgia Avenue in either direction, you can expect an enormous increase in traffic on your street as tens of thousands of drivers cut through side streets to avoid Georgia Avenue.

4. The city says this is needed to reduce speeding. It's worth nothing that a grand total of 9 people in Washington DC were killed by speeding drivers in 2022, the latest year from the police statistics.

https://buspriority.ddot.dc.gov/pages/georgiaavenw

5. That enormous increase in traffic on the secondary and tertiary streets of Ward 4, where a gazillion little kids live, will result in children being killed.

If that is sincerely your concern, then here's what you should do: ask DDOT for lots of speed humps and raised crosswalks on these streets. It sounds like those streets already aren't safe right now.

Why? The question is whether or not the proposed measures will do what you claim. You claim that there is no spill over traffic we claim that there is. You claim that reducing speed is all that matters. We claim that people don't speed during rush hour, that most of the accidents happen during rush hour, and that the changes will make things worse an ld will cause more accidents during rush hour. You pretend that none of that detail or context matters.

Based on the existing streets where these ideas have been implemented the data quite clearly shows that they make things worse. But go on pretending that you live near Georgia and give a damn about any of this. The fact of the matter is that there have been more deaths and more accidents since DC started doing this. Physician heal thyself.

And while we're at it, stop trying to cover for an obvious mental patient. There is no house with three plus trees in the front yard, a driveway, and an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop near Georgia Ave

Why? Because the streets are dangerous. You said so yourself. Speed humps and raised crosswalks will make those streets safer.

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live on Georgia Avenue, or even people who live in the Georgia Avenue corridor.

Tell me any location in DC with 3 plus trees in the front yard and a driveway near an elementary school all of which is near both a synogogue and a bubble tea shop

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Use of Georgia Avenue is also not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Glad that you're at least tacitly acknowledging that that PP is either hallucinating, lying or lives no where near here. Regardless they should STFU

So it's ok for DDOT to disregard the desires of people who want to drive on Georgia Avenue but don't live within the Georgia Avenue corridor in DC?

Really?

Please do tell me. Name one neighborhood in the entire world where there are houses with a driveway and 4 or more street level trees in the front yard near an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop. It ain't Rollingwood or Aspen Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:It is proposing to reduce Georgia Avenue to single lane in each direction because they want to make the other lanes bus-only.

In the understatement of the year, DDOT sa hiys "current peak traffic volumes cannot be accommodated by a single lane of traffic" and "there will be increased travel times."

The obvious problems here are:

1. Georgia Avenue will become gridlocked, always

2. Very few people ride the bus, and this isn't going to change that.

3. If you live within a half mile of Georgia Avenue in either direction, you can expect an enormous increase in traffic on your street as tens of thousands of drivers cut through side streets to avoid Georgia Avenue.

4. The city says this is needed to reduce speeding. It's worth nothing that a grand total of 9 people in Washington DC were killed by speeding drivers in 2022, the latest year from the police statistics.

https://buspriority.ddot.dc.gov/pages/georgiaavenw

5. That enormous increase in traffic on the secondary and tertiary streets of Ward 4, where a gazillion little kids live, will result in children being killed.

If that is sincerely your concern, then here's what you should do: ask DDOT for lots of speed humps and raised crosswalks on these streets. It sounds like those streets already aren't safe right now.

Why? The question is whether or not the proposed measures will do what you claim. You claim that there is no spill over traffic we claim that there is. You claim that reducing speed is all that matters. We claim that people don't speed during rush hour, that most of the accidents happen during rush hour, and that the changes will make things worse an ld will cause more accidents during rush hour. You pretend that none of that detail or context matters.

Based on the existing streets where these ideas have been implemented the data quite clearly shows that they make things worse. But go on pretending that you live near Georgia and give a damn about any of this. The fact of the matter is that there have been more deaths and more accidents since DC started doing this. Physician heal thyself.

And while we're at it, stop trying to cover for an obvious mental patient. There is no house with three plus trees in the front yard, a driveway, and an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop near Georgia Ave

Why? Because the streets are dangerous. You said so yourself. Speed humps and raised crosswalks will make those streets safer.

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live on Georgia Avenue, or even people who live in the Georgia Avenue corridor.

Tell me any location in DC with 3 plus trees in the front yard and a driveway near an elementary school all of which is near both a synogogue and a bubble tea shop

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Use of Georgia Avenue is also not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Glad that you're at least tacitly acknowledging that that PP is either hallucinating, lying or lives no where near here. Regardless they should STFU

So it's ok for DDOT to disregard the desires of people who want to drive on Georgia Avenue but don't live within the Georgia Avenue corridor in DC?

Really?

Please do tell me. Name one neighborhood in the entire world where there are houses with a driveway and 4 or more street level trees in the front yard near an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop. It ain't Rollingwood or Aspen Hill.

You're not even quoting yourself correctly.

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Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

This is the main question here that no one can seem to answer.

They don't want to answer it. The data and research is very clear that increasing congestion on heavily congested roads decreases safety. This isn't about safety. It has never been.

The data and research that you made up in your head.

In the actual world, the data and research are very clear that slower speeds make a street safer for everyone, including drivers.

Are you the AI bot, or the 19 yr old city planning intern with nothing else to do all afternoon? These insipid IKnowYouAreButWhatAmI responses are boresome. You're flat wrong.

Anyway, the actual data show that squeezing traffic to a standstill on a designated arterial will induce diversion to side roads. That situation is not, in fact, safer for anyone. High volume traffic on designated local streets is more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, pets, and 3 yr old scooter riders who misjudge the curb.

Your term paper thesis is going to kill a 3 yr old someday soon in the District. Is that okay with you?

[Mic drop]

Is it ok with you that an actual four year old was actually killed by a driver on Georgia Avenue?

Are you even from here? There's virtually no children on Georgia Avenue because their parents are like, "stay the F away from Georgia Avenue because there's too many cars." There's tens of thousands of children in the neighborhoods abutting Georgia Avenue that will be put in serious danger by this plan.

To repeat, AN ACTUAL FOUR YEAR OLD WAS ACTUALLY KILLED BY A DRIVER ON GEORGIA AVENUE. But that doesn't matter to you, because ... well, why?

Wow. Your caps make your dumb arguments so much more convincing! Again, go to Georgia Avenue and count how many children you see. You will only need one hand. Then go to look up how many kids live in nearby neighborhoods, walking to school and playing with friends, who will suddenly be put in immediate danger as tens of thousands of drivers go racing through their neighborhoods to avoid Georgia Avenue. This isn't hard. Well, maybe for you it is...

Yeah, you haven't answered the question. Why are potential kids, who might potentially be killed, more important to you than this actual child who was actually killed on Georgia Avenue? Wasn't his safety important too?

Because the kids on GA ave who are walking on it are black and brown and the ones off on the side streets have a lower chance of being black and brown, duh.

What kids? There are no children of any color on Georgia Avenue because Georgia Avenue would be incredibly boring to children. You think kids like hanging out at run down car washes?

There's a sign at Georgia and Kennedy street's intersection for the 2021 death of a 4 year old boy by SUV. You've been told this multiple times. Idiot.

He was on Kennedy not Georgia. We will correct you every time you attempt to slip this by and make up a bullshit narrative to support your case

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. I don't know what point you and the mouse in your pocket are trying to make, anyway.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

He was not "at Georgia." He was jaywalking across Kennedy St., outside of a crosswalk. He jaywalked into the path of a lawfully operated vehicle that was not speeding and that had the right of way

The point? is that this sad case does not offer one iota of evidence that there should be a bus lane on Georgia to choke north-south traffic.

The POINT is that you keep lying and saying this kid was on Georgia.

If anything, this sad case supports your opponents and you're too dim to realize this. It offers evidence that traffic that will be diverted from Georgia onto north-south residential side streets poses a serious risk to little kids who do little kid things like run out into the street where they live without looking.

Your senior thesis idea will cause cars to run over kids. Bad idea.

"The operator then crossed over Georgia Avenue, Northwest, into onto the 900 block of Kennedy Street, Northwest. As the operator entered the block, a juvenile male was crossing the street, outside of a marked crosswalk. The operator struck the victim then immediately came to a stop and remained on scene."
https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

I don't know what point you're trying to make, other than blaming a four-year-old child for getting killed in a car crash.

The point is that you're lying to everyone about what happened to this child because you think it will further the unrelated cause of created a bus-only lane.

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. The police news release says so. Are they lying too?

The police news report pretty clearly says that the child was on Kennedy, AND that the car was traveling on Kennedy. Neither of them was on Georgia. The car passed across Georgia and then struck the child on Kennedy. Again, on Kennedy. That cross street could have been any street and it wouldn't have mattered, because it was not involved in the crash.

?? the reason the car was going so fast was that it turned at a high rate of speed off Georgia. slow down Georgia and turns will be safer. Only someone with zero understanding of traffic safety could have posted that.

Untrue! The car crossed georgia ave from one side to the other, the entire time on Kennedy St.

Legally and with a green light.

Kennedy is perpendicular to Georgia. The driver was NEVER ON GEORGIA.

The deceased child however was jaywalking with his mother across Kennedy outside of the crosswalk.

Once again for the slow in the back … this story doesn’t support your argument. You’ve been informed 17 times so at this point you are lying

The reports suggest the car ran a red light. I’m not convinced this was fully investigated.

The car either accelerated through a yellow or ran a red. The mother crossed just down from the intersection when the walk sign came on.

You made that up, because 1. the car was going the speed limit verified and 2. cameras showed that the light was not red. Which is why the driver was not charged.

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Anonymous wrote:It is proposing to reduce Georgia Avenue to single lane in each direction because they want to make the other lanes bus-only.

In the understatement of the year, DDOT sa hiys "current peak traffic volumes cannot be accommodated by a single lane of traffic" and "there will be increased travel times."

The obvious problems here are:

1. Georgia Avenue will become gridlocked, always

2. Very few people ride the bus, and this isn't going to change that.

3. If you live within a half mile of Georgia Avenue in either direction, you can expect an enormous increase in traffic on your street as tens of thousands of drivers cut through side streets to avoid Georgia Avenue.

4. The city says this is needed to reduce speeding. It's worth nothing that a grand total of 9 people in Washington DC were killed by speeding drivers in 2022, the latest year from the police statistics.

https://buspriority.ddot.dc.gov/pages/georgiaavenw

5. That enormous increase in traffic on the secondary and tertiary streets of Ward 4, where a gazillion little kids live, will result in children being killed.

If that is sincerely your concern, then here's what you should do: ask DDOT for lots of speed humps and raised crosswalks on these streets. It sounds like those streets already aren't safe right now.

Why? The question is whether or not the proposed measures will do what you claim. You claim that there is no spill over traffic we claim that there is. You claim that reducing speed is all that matters. We claim that people don't speed during rush hour, that most of the accidents happen during rush hour, and that the changes will make things worse an ld will cause more accidents during rush hour. You pretend that none of that detail or context matters.

Based on the existing streets where these ideas have been implemented the data quite clearly shows that they make things worse. But go on pretending that you live near Georgia and give a damn about any of this. The fact of the matter is that there have been more deaths and more accidents since DC started doing this. Physician heal thyself.

And while we're at it, stop trying to cover for an obvious mental patient. There is no house with three plus trees in the front yard, a driveway, and an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop near Georgia Ave

Why? Because the streets are dangerous. You said so yourself. Speed humps and raised crosswalks will make those streets safer.

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live on Georgia Avenue, or even people who live in the Georgia Avenue corridor.

Tell me any location in DC with 3 plus trees in the front yard and a driveway near an elementary school all of which is near both a synogogue and a bubble tea shop

Posting on this thread is not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Use of Georgia Avenue is also not restricted to people who live within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.

Glad that you're at least tacitly acknowledging that that PP is either hallucinating, lying or lives no where near here. Regardless they should STFU

So it's ok for DDOT to disregard the desires of people who want to drive on Georgia Avenue but don't live within the Georgia Avenue corridor in DC?

Really?

Please do tell me. Name one neighborhood in the entire world where there are houses with a driveway and 4 or more street level trees in the front yard near an elementary school, synogogue and bubble tea shop. It ain't Rollingwood or Aspen Hill.

You're not even quoting yourself correctly.

You weren't paying attention. PP said 3 "of my" trees which means that there are more than 3 trees.

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

There's basically no children on Georgia Avenue (Georgia Avenue is mostly liquor stores and other businesses), but go a few blocks east or west and there's a million of them. A lot of young children.

It's hard to imagine how this plan would *not* result in many children being killed. I would think someone will sue to stop this truly insane idea.

The status quo has already resulted in at least one actual - not hypothetical - child being actually - not hypothetically - killed.

On a different street. After 16th Street was redesigned.

The child was killed at the intersection of Kennedy and Georgia. The family was crossing Kennedy at Georgia - just like you would do if you were walking along Georgia and needed to get to the other side of Kennedy. And yet you keep insisting that the intersection of Kennedy and Georgia has nothing to do with Georgia.

they crossed from one side of Kennedy to the other side of Kennedy. Breaking the law in the process, it's probably worth noting.

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/bike_ped_traffic_reg_summary_0_0.pdf

"If a pedestrian crosses a roadway AT ANY POINT OTHER THAN A MARKED CROSSWALK, or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, THE PEDESTRIAN SHALL YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY TO ANY VEHICLE."

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Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

This is the main question here that no one can seem to answer.

They don't want to answer it. The data and research is very clear that increasing congestion on heavily congested roads decreases safety. This isn't about safety. It has never been.

The data and research that you made up in your head.

In the actual world, the data and research are very clear that slower speeds make a street safer for everyone, including drivers.

Are you the AI bot, or the 19 yr old city planning intern with nothing else to do all afternoon? These insipid IKnowYouAreButWhatAmI responses are boresome. You're flat wrong.

Anyway, the actual data show that squeezing traffic to a standstill on a designated arterial will induce diversion to side roads. That situation is not, in fact, safer for anyone. High volume traffic on designated local streets is more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, pets, and 3 yr old scooter riders who misjudge the curb.

Your term paper thesis is going to kill a 3 yr old someday soon in the District. Is that okay with you?

[Mic drop]

Is it ok with you that an actual four year old was actually killed by a driver on Georgia Avenue?

Are you even from here? There's virtually no children on Georgia Avenue because their parents are like, "stay the F away from Georgia Avenue because there's too many cars." There's tens of thousands of children in the neighborhoods abutting Georgia Avenue that will be put in serious danger by this plan.

To repeat, AN ACTUAL FOUR YEAR OLD WAS ACTUALLY KILLED BY A DRIVER ON GEORGIA AVENUE. But that doesn't matter to you, because ... well, why?

Wow. Your caps make your dumb arguments so much more convincing! Again, go to Georgia Avenue and count how many children you see. You will only need one hand. Then go to look up how many kids live in nearby neighborhoods, walking to school and playing with friends, who will suddenly be put in immediate danger as tens of thousands of drivers go racing through their neighborhoods to avoid Georgia Avenue. This isn't hard. Well, maybe for you it is...

Yeah, you haven't answered the question. Why are potential kids, who might potentially be killed, more important to you than this actual child who was actually killed on Georgia Avenue? Wasn't his safety important too?

Because the kids on GA ave who are walking on it are black and brown and the ones off on the side streets have a lower chance of being black and brown, duh.

What kids? There are no children of any color on Georgia Avenue because Georgia Avenue would be incredibly boring to children. You think kids like hanging out at run down car washes?

There's a sign at Georgia and Kennedy street's intersection for the 2021 death of a 4 year old boy by SUV. You've been told this multiple times. Idiot.

He was on Kennedy not Georgia. We will correct you every time you attempt to slip this by and make up a bullshit narrative to support your case

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. I don't know what point you and the mouse in your pocket are trying to make, anyway.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

He was not "at Georgia." He was jaywalking across Kennedy St., outside of a crosswalk. He jaywalked into the path of a lawfully operated vehicle that was not speeding and that had the right of way

The point? is that this sad case does not offer one iota of evidence that there should be a bus lane on Georgia to choke north-south traffic.

The POINT is that you keep lying and saying this kid was on Georgia.

If anything, this sad case supports your opponents and you're too dim to realize this. It offers evidence that traffic that will be diverted from Georgia onto north-south residential side streets poses a serious risk to little kids who do little kid things like run out into the street where they live without looking.

Your senior thesis idea will cause cars to run over kids. Bad idea.

"The operator then crossed over Georgia Avenue, Northwest, into onto the 900 block of Kennedy Street, Northwest. As the operator entered the block, a juvenile male was crossing the street, outside of a marked crosswalk. The operator struck the victim then immediately came to a stop and remained on scene."
https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

I don't know what point you're trying to make, other than blaming a four-year-old child for getting killed in a car crash.

The point is that you're lying to everyone about what happened to this child because you think it will further the unrelated cause of created a bus-only lane.

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. The police news release says so. Are they lying too?

The police news report pretty clearly says that the child was on Kennedy, AND that the car was traveling on Kennedy. Neither of them was on Georgia. The car passed across Georgia and then struck the child on Kennedy. Again, on Kennedy. That cross street could have been any street and it wouldn't have mattered, because it was not involved in the crash.

?? the reason the car was going so fast was that it turned at a high rate of speed off Georgia. slow down Georgia and turns will be safer. Only someone with zero understanding of traffic safety could have posted that.

Untrue! The car crossed georgia ave from one side to the other, the entire time on Kennedy St.

Legally and with a green light.

Kennedy is perpendicular to Georgia. The driver was NEVER ON GEORGIA.

The deceased child however was jaywalking with his mother across Kennedy outside of the crosswalk.

Once again for the slow in the back … this story doesn’t support your argument. You’ve been informed 17 times so at this point you are lying

Did you not see the quote above from the deceased child’s uncle? The quote where he specifically and directly linked his nephew’s death to speeding vehicles on Georgia Avenue? Or did you see it and then choose to ignore it because it destroys the whole narrative you’re clinging to like a two year old with a safety blanket? I’ll repeat a question that was already posed: what makes you think you know the circumstances of the child’s death better than his own uncle? What makes you think you know better how to prevent similar tragedies than the relatives of children who were killed along this street? Enlighten us, please.

The uncle wasn't present at the collision. He can say whatever he wants, and the law calls that 'hearsay.'

There was likely also traffic speeding on Pennsylvania Ave that day, and the Beltway, and 295. Maybe Geogia Ave too, who knows?

None of this is relevant to what actually killed the poor kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

There's basically no children on Georgia Avenue (Georgia Avenue is mostly liquor stores and other businesses), but go a few blocks east or west and there's a million of them. A lot of young children.

It's hard to imagine how this plan would *not* result in many children being killed. I would think someone will sue to stop this truly insane idea.

The status quo has already resulted in at least one actual - not hypothetical - child being actually - not hypothetically - killed.

On a different street. After 16th Street was redesigned.

The child was killed at the intersection of Kennedy and Georgia. The family was crossing Kennedy at Georgia - just like you would do if you were walking along Georgia and needed to get to the other side of Kennedy. And yet you keep insisting that the intersection of Kennedy and Georgia has nothing to do with Georgia.

they crossed from one side of Kennedy to the other side of Kennedy. Breaking the law in the process, it's probably worth noting.

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/bike_ped_traffic_reg_summary_0_0.pdf

"If a pedestrian crosses a roadway AT ANY POINT OTHER THAN A MARKED CROSSWALK, or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, THE PEDESTRIAN SHALL YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY TO ANY VEHICLE."

At Georgia.

Is it open season on four-year-old children who break traffic laws, now? Are you the one expressing concern about the safety of children on "side streets"?

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Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

This is the main question here that no one can seem to answer.

They don't want to answer it. The data and research is very clear that increasing congestion on heavily congested roads decreases safety. This isn't about safety. It has never been.

The data and research that you made up in your head.

In the actual world, the data and research are very clear that slower speeds make a street safer for everyone, including drivers.

Are you the AI bot, or the 19 yr old city planning intern with nothing else to do all afternoon? These insipid IKnowYouAreButWhatAmI responses are boresome. You're flat wrong.

Anyway, the actual data show that squeezing traffic to a standstill on a designated arterial will induce diversion to side roads. That situation is not, in fact, safer for anyone. High volume traffic on designated local streets is more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, pets, and 3 yr old scooter riders who misjudge the curb.

Your term paper thesis is going to kill a 3 yr old someday soon in the District. Is that okay with you?

[Mic drop]

Is it ok with you that an actual four year old was actually killed by a driver on Georgia Avenue?

Are you even from here? There's virtually no children on Georgia Avenue because their parents are like, "stay the F away from Georgia Avenue because there's too many cars." There's tens of thousands of children in the neighborhoods abutting Georgia Avenue that will be put in serious danger by this plan.

To repeat, AN ACTUAL FOUR YEAR OLD WAS ACTUALLY KILLED BY A DRIVER ON GEORGIA AVENUE. But that doesn't matter to you, because ... well, why?

Wow. Your caps make your dumb arguments so much more convincing! Again, go to Georgia Avenue and count how many children you see. You will only need one hand. Then go to look up how many kids live in nearby neighborhoods, walking to school and playing with friends, who will suddenly be put in immediate danger as tens of thousands of drivers go racing through their neighborhoods to avoid Georgia Avenue. This isn't hard. Well, maybe for you it is...

Yeah, you haven't answered the question. Why are potential kids, who might potentially be killed, more important to you than this actual child who was actually killed on Georgia Avenue? Wasn't his safety important too?

Because the kids on GA ave who are walking on it are black and brown and the ones off on the side streets have a lower chance of being black and brown, duh.

What kids? There are no children of any color on Georgia Avenue because Georgia Avenue would be incredibly boring to children. You think kids like hanging out at run down car washes?

There's a sign at Georgia and Kennedy street's intersection for the 2021 death of a 4 year old boy by SUV. You've been told this multiple times. Idiot.

He was on Kennedy not Georgia. We will correct you every time you attempt to slip this by and make up a bullshit narrative to support your case

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. I don't know what point you and the mouse in your pocket are trying to make, anyway.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

He was not "at Georgia." He was jaywalking across Kennedy St., outside of a crosswalk. He jaywalked into the path of a lawfully operated vehicle that was not speeding and that had the right of way

The point? is that this sad case does not offer one iota of evidence that there should be a bus lane on Georgia to choke north-south traffic.

The POINT is that you keep lying and saying this kid was on Georgia.

If anything, this sad case supports your opponents and you're too dim to realize this. It offers evidence that traffic that will be diverted from Georgia onto north-south residential side streets poses a serious risk to little kids who do little kid things like run out into the street where they live without looking.

Your senior thesis idea will cause cars to run over kids. Bad idea.

"The operator then crossed over Georgia Avenue, Northwest, into onto the 900 block of Kennedy Street, Northwest. As the operator entered the block, a juvenile male was crossing the street, outside of a marked crosswalk. The operator struck the victim then immediately came to a stop and remained on scene."
https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

I don't know what point you're trying to make, other than blaming a four-year-old child for getting killed in a car crash.

The point is that you're lying to everyone about what happened to this child because you think it will further the unrelated cause of created a bus-only lane.

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. The police news release says so. Are they lying too?

The police news report pretty clearly says that the child was on Kennedy, AND that the car was traveling on Kennedy. Neither of them was on Georgia. The car passed across Georgia and then struck the child on Kennedy. Again, on Kennedy. That cross street could have been any street and it wouldn't have mattered, because it was not involved in the crash.

?? the reason the car was going so fast was that it turned at a high rate of speed off Georgia. slow down Georgia and turns will be safer. Only someone with zero understanding of traffic safety could have posted that.

Untrue! The car crossed georgia ave from one side to the other, the entire time on Kennedy St.

Legally and with a green light.

Kennedy is perpendicular to Georgia. The driver was NEVER ON GEORGIA.

The deceased child however was jaywalking with his mother across Kennedy outside of the crosswalk.

Once again for the slow in the back … this story doesn’t support your argument. You’ve been informed 17 times so at this point you are lying

The reports suggest the car ran a red light. I’m not convinced this was fully investigated.

The car either accelerated through a yellow or ran a red. The mother crossed just down from the intersection when the walk sign came on.

You made that up, because 1. the car was going the speed limit verified and 2. cameras showed that the light was not red. Which is why the driver was not charged.

where did you get that?

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Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

This is the main question here that no one can seem to answer.

They don't want to answer it. The data and research is very clear that increasing congestion on heavily congested roads decreases safety. This isn't about safety. It has never been.

The data and research that you made up in your head.

In the actual world, the data and research are very clear that slower speeds make a street safer for everyone, including drivers.

Are you the AI bot, or the 19 yr old city planning intern with nothing else to do all afternoon? These insipid IKnowYouAreButWhatAmI responses are boresome. You're flat wrong.

Anyway, the actual data show that squeezing traffic to a standstill on a designated arterial will induce diversion to side roads. That situation is not, in fact, safer for anyone. High volume traffic on designated local streets is more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, pets, and 3 yr old scooter riders who misjudge the curb.

Your term paper thesis is going to kill a 3 yr old someday soon in the District. Is that okay with you?

[Mic drop]

Is it ok with you that an actual four year old was actually killed by a driver on Georgia Avenue?

Are you even from here? There's virtually no children on Georgia Avenue because their parents are like, "stay the F away from Georgia Avenue because there's too many cars." There's tens of thousands of children in the neighborhoods abutting Georgia Avenue that will be put in serious danger by this plan.

To repeat, AN ACTUAL FOUR YEAR OLD WAS ACTUALLY KILLED BY A DRIVER ON GEORGIA AVENUE. But that doesn't matter to you, because ... well, why?

Wow. Your caps make your dumb arguments so much more convincing! Again, go to Georgia Avenue and count how many children you see. You will only need one hand. Then go to look up how many kids live in nearby neighborhoods, walking to school and playing with friends, who will suddenly be put in immediate danger as tens of thousands of drivers go racing through their neighborhoods to avoid Georgia Avenue. This isn't hard. Well, maybe for you it is...

Yeah, you haven't answered the question. Why are potential kids, who might potentially be killed, more important to you than this actual child who was actually killed on Georgia Avenue? Wasn't his safety important too?

Because the kids on GA ave who are walking on it are black and brown and the ones off on the side streets have a lower chance of being black and brown, duh.

What kids? There are no children of any color on Georgia Avenue because Georgia Avenue would be incredibly boring to children. You think kids like hanging out at run down car washes?

There's a sign at Georgia and Kennedy street's intersection for the 2021 death of a 4 year old boy by SUV. You've been told this multiple times. Idiot.

He was on Kennedy not Georgia. We will correct you every time you attempt to slip this by and make up a bullshit narrative to support your case

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. I don't know what point you and the mouse in your pocket are trying to make, anyway.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

He was not "at Georgia." He was jaywalking across Kennedy St., outside of a crosswalk. He jaywalked into the path of a lawfully operated vehicle that was not speeding and that had the right of way

The point? is that this sad case does not offer one iota of evidence that there should be a bus lane on Georgia to choke north-south traffic.

The POINT is that you keep lying and saying this kid was on Georgia.

If anything, this sad case supports your opponents and you're too dim to realize this. It offers evidence that traffic that will be diverted from Georgia onto north-south residential side streets poses a serious risk to little kids who do little kid things like run out into the street where they live without looking.

Your senior thesis idea will cause cars to run over kids. Bad idea.

"The operator then crossed over Georgia Avenue, Northwest, into onto the 900 block of Kennedy Street, Northwest. As the operator entered the block, a juvenile male was crossing the street, outside of a marked crosswalk. The operator struck the victim then immediately came to a stop and remained on scene."
https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

I don't know what point you're trying to make, other than blaming a four-year-old child for getting killed in a car crash.

The point is that you're lying to everyone about what happened to this child because you think it will further the unrelated cause of created a bus-only lane.

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. The police news release says so. Are they lying too?

The police news report pretty clearly says that the child was on Kennedy, AND that the car was traveling on Kennedy. Neither of them was on Georgia. The car passed across Georgia and then struck the child on Kennedy. Again, on Kennedy. That cross street could have been any street and it wouldn't have mattered, because it was not involved in the crash.

?? the reason the car was going so fast was that it turned at a high rate of speed off Georgia. slow down Georgia and turns will be safer. Only someone with zero understanding of traffic safety could have posted that.

Untrue! The car crossed georgia ave from one side to the other, the entire time on Kennedy St.

Legally and with a green light.

Kennedy is perpendicular to Georgia. The driver was NEVER ON GEORGIA.

The deceased child however was jaywalking with his mother across Kennedy outside of the crosswalk.

Once again for the slow in the back … this story doesn’t support your argument. You’ve been informed 17 times so at this point you are lying

The reports suggest the car ran a red light. I’m not convinced this was fully investigated.

The car either accelerated through a yellow or ran a red. The mother crossed just down from the intersection when the walk sign came on.

You made that up, because 1. the car was going the speed limit verified and 2. cameras showed that the light was not red. Which is why the driver was not charged.

where did you get that?

The entire incident was caught on tape by a Metrobus.

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

There's basically no children on Georgia Avenue (Georgia Avenue is mostly liquor stores and other businesses), but go a few blocks east or west and there's a million of them. A lot of young children.

It's hard to imagine how this plan would *not* result in many children being killed. I would think someone will sue to stop this truly insane idea.

The status quo has already resulted in at least one actual - not hypothetical - child being actually - not hypothetically - killed.

On a different street. After 16th Street was redesigned.

The child was killed at the intersection of Kennedy and Georgia. The family was crossing Kennedy at Georgia - just like you would do if you were walking along Georgia and needed to get to the other side of Kennedy. And yet you keep insisting that the intersection of Kennedy and Georgia has nothing to do with Georgia.

they crossed from one side of Kennedy to the other side of Kennedy. Breaking the law in the process, it's probably worth noting.

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/bike_ped_traffic_reg_summary_0_0.pdf

"If a pedestrian crosses a roadway AT ANY POINT OTHER THAN A MARKED CROSSWALK, or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, THE PEDESTRIAN SHALL YEILD THE RIGHT OF WAY TO ANY VEHICLE."

At Georgia.

Is it open season on four-year-old children who break traffic laws, now? Are you the one expressing concern about the safety of children on "side streets"?

Not PP but what are you talking about re: “open season on 4 year olds”. The point is that crossing a road can be dangerous. That is true especially when Jay walking. It is parents’ responsibility to look out for 4 year olds and not let them run into the street.