School board results?

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Anonymous wrote:The new school board will still continue the policies of skill-based grading and E3 math, while also continuing to encourage

the practice of no homework and no novels. Enjoy.


It’s called paying for tutoring, enrichment camps and having your children do Great Books.

Jeez stop whining.

Thats right. Why would I expect the school to educate my children beyond the lowest common denominator. Equity does not allow this.

The good news is I can and do provide those opportunities for my kids. The bad news is many can't provide those things. Enjoy.


So you don't support reading intervention for my dyslexic kid? You don't support special education at all?

This doesn’t make sense. Of course I support reading intervention. But while your kid learns to read through school support, my kid deserves challenging novels and discussion with a different group of kids who don’t have the same problems.

FWIW, my child with dyslexia could also participate in discussions about challenging novels, why should they be excluded from that?
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Anonymous wrote:It is a shame that the Demo party even backed Rachna Sizemore Heizer. She was a HUGE part of the school closure issue with COVID and is only politically driven and does not care about the children at all. I am still in shock that she won.


Most people understand people were making tough decisions with limited knowledge in an unprecedented situation during Covid. As a parent at that time I didn't want my kids going to school, getting Covid, bringing it back home to more vulnerable family members etc. It was a scary time that was disruptive whether schools were virtual or in person. Most of us know people who died and even more who were hospitalized. I don't blame any school board member for that--and I imagine many others feel the same.

I preferred McLaughlin, but I don't see Sizemore Heizer through the same lens as you.


+1 million

The crazy Open Schools Now! people were very vocal, but not representative of most parents.


That’s not true. Or, it’s a significant re-write of history. When parents were given an option in summer. 2020 between virtual and in person for 2020-2021, a significant majority chose in person. And people who wanted more caution in fall 2020 were over it by spring when FCPS failed again and again to reopen because (in one instance), they couldn’t figure out lunch logistics. FCPS was one of the last school districts to reopen. And they would not have in Spring 2021 if the State Senate hadn’t voted almost unanimously to make them. And even then, any teacher with with any medical condition, including a BMI of 26, didn’t have to come back, and we got Monitors and virtual learning for kids in school. Even though they were first in line for vaccines and had the option to be fully vaccines when they returned.

Heck, Youngkin won BA based label on suburban moms pissed about the failure to schools to reopen. Without that (and McAwful being a crap candidate), he never would ha won.

Crazy was teachers standing outside school board meetings carrying small coffins.


Repeat this to yourself as needed: You have no entitlement to dictate the health risks for other people. None. ZERO.

I'm not a teacher. But I've been in the schools a lot in various capacities. And those places, esp the lunch rooms in our HS, are petri dishes in GOOD years. If they did not want that exposure for themselves, or to bring home to vulnerable family members, that is their right. And you should have absolutely ZERO say in that.


Mic drop.


Nope, if you have an issue with germ exposure, maybe don't choose a job that exposes you to 100s of other people daily.


+1. How come teachers were the only essential workers who could make this call for themselves. Doctors, nurses, my sister the pharmacist, sanitation’s workers, firefighters, even shelf stockers and Wegmans could unilaterally opt out of showing up and being exposed, if they wanted to keep their jobs. So what makes teachers different? And don’t say because they could do their jobs virtually. Because the level of learning loss we are looking at makes it clear they could not— at least not effectively.


C'mon. Working in a contained environment all day with a bunch of kids (some of whom have crazy parents who didn't care about the "cold" their kids had) during the first-in-our-lifetime pandemic is the same as stocking the shelf at a 80,000 square foot Wegmans? The sanitation workers had the same chance of picking up covid in the alley as a teacher in close quarters with elementary kids who can't blow their noses on their own? It's time to move on.



Why were private schools able to have in person school? I had one DS in a private high school in DC and one in high school in FCPS. My private school DS returned to in person school in October 2020 and everything was fine. I had several friends with children in private schools in Virginia and their children returned to school in September 2020. I also worked in person in a private preschool that entire school year, starting in September 2020 with two to five year olds and we never had a Covid outbreak. I guess private school teachers and students had some miraculous immunity.


My son’s private school made us sign contracts saying if our child could not wear a mask at all times he would be kicked out of the school. We also had to agree not to travel, not to meet up with anyone outside the private school community, and paid additional tuition to keep class sizes small enough that kids could be spread out.

Plus there’s the whole, if they didn’t open they would lose tuition, I.e. go bankrupt. They were going to open whether it was smart medically or not, because it was smart financially.
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In other words, you are correct the sbg setup takes more time, but this way they can show that they are somehow being progressive making sure all the standards are taught and measured so that no child completely misses a standard whereas retakes were an outdated method in their view despite them being more effective at teaching skills. The tests are pretty much the same as before so how can kids really learn more under sbg especially when homework isn't graded. For every kid that this works for there are another 10 that it doesn't. It's always about the change with progressives though. Never actually about what is working well.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new school board will still continue the policies of skill-based grading and E3 math, while also continuing to encourage

the practice of no homework and no novels. Enjoy.


It’s called paying for tutoring, enrichment camps and having your children do Great Books.

Jeez stop whining.

Thats right. Why would I expect the school to educate my children beyond the lowest common denominator. Equity does not allow this.

The good news is I can and do provide those opportunities for my kids. The bad news is many can't provide those things. Enjoy.


So you don't support reading intervention for my dyslexic kid? You don't support special education at all?

This doesn’t make sense. Of course I support reading intervention. But while your kid learns to read through school support, my kid deserves challenging novels and discussion with a different group of kids who don’t have the same problems.

FWIW, my child with dyslexia could also participate in discussions about challenging novels, why should they be excluded from that?


They would get that instruction in the whole class discussions on books and in targeted reading comprehension questions for that group of students they are with. You can't devote time to working on dyslexia and get every lesson that other children are getting who don't have it. There is only so much time for reading during the school day. If there are 2 hour time blocks and your child needs 45 minutes for dyslexia help, then they miss whatever is being taught in those 45 minutes.
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Anonymous wrote:Repubs should have stayed away from book banning and crucifying trans kids. As well as slamming equity like it is a slur.

Maybe they would have had a chance.
exactly I would not vote for anyone who supports book banning or crucifying any kids because of who they are.


You sound like my retired parents who go on and on about the book banning they see on the news. This is such a non issue for my kids. I can’t remember the last time they took out a book from the school library (high school and middle schoolers) or possibly even went into a school library. We are thinking of ordering some of these books as presents for my parents for Christmas, so they can have a copy of the books they are so upset over possibly being banned.
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Over a decade, I think Baileys Elementary changed their reading books for all their students three times. The money would have been better spent on just teaching children. Less hassle for the teachers and more consistency across grades. It's always about the next new thing though.
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Anonymous wrote:Repubs should have stayed away from book banning and crucifying trans kids. As well as slamming equity like it is a slur.

Maybe they would have had a chance.
exactly I would not vote for anyone who supports book banning or crucifying any kids because of who they are.


You sound like my retired parents who go on and on about the book banning they see on the news. This is such a non issue for my kids. I can’t remember the last time they took out a book from the school library (high school and middle schoolers) or possibly even went into a school library. We are thinking of ordering some of these books as presents for my parents for Christmas, so they can have a copy of the books they are so upset over possibly being banned.


Exactly. Both sides on this issue are just deflecting from actual issues when the bigger issue is that kids are spending time on electronics verses reading.
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Anonymous wrote:In other words, you are correct the sbg setup takes more time, but this way they can show that they are somehow being progressive making sure all the standards are taught and measured so that no child completely misses a standard whereas retakes were an outdated method in their view despite them being more effective at teaching skills. The tests are pretty much the same as before so how can kids really learn more under sbg especially when homework isn't graded. For every kid that this works for there are another 10 that it doesn't. It's always about the change with progressives though. Never actually about what is working well.


And don't forget your most valuable time as a teacher is what you produce for your higher ups, not the kids. Spending more time on separating out your tests into various standards is much more valuable than giving homework feedback to students or teaching them lessons they didn't pick up the first time. You've helped give your higher ups more data to use to ask for money.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Repubs should have stayed away from book banning and crucifying trans kids. As well as slamming equity like it is a slur.

Maybe they would have had a chance.
exactly I would not vote for anyone who supports book banning or crucifying any kids because of who they are.


You sound like my retired parents who go on and on about the book banning they see on the news. This is such a non issue for my kids. I can’t remember the last time they took out a book from the school library (high school and middle schoolers) or possibly even went into a school library. We are thinking of ordering some of these books as presents for my parents for Christmas, so they can have a copy of the books they are so upset over possibly being banned.


Exactly. Both sides on this issue are just deflecting from actual issues when the bigger issue is that kids are spending time on electronics verses reading.


Do kids even use the library during the day except for class? I wish they would do an analysis of actual checked out books in each middle school and high school unrelated to a class to prove this is a non-issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new school board will still continue the policies of skill-based grading and E3 math, while also continuing to encourage

the practice of no homework and no novels. Enjoy.


It’s called paying for tutoring, enrichment camps and having your children do Great Books.

Jeez stop whining.

Thats right. Why would I expect the school to educate my children beyond the lowest common denominator. Equity does not allow this.

The good news is I can and do provide those opportunities for my kids. The bad news is many can't provide those things. Enjoy.


So you don't support reading intervention for my dyslexic kid? You don't support special education at all?

This doesn’t make sense. Of course I support reading intervention. But while your kid learns to read through school support, my kid deserves challenging novels and discussion with a different group of kids who don’t have the same problems.

FWIW, my child with dyslexia could also participate in discussions about challenging novels, why should they be excluded from that?


They would get that instruction in the whole class discussions on books and in targeted reading comprehension questions for that group of students they are with. You can't devote time to working on dyslexia and get every lesson that other children are getting who don't have it. There is only so much time for reading during the school day. If there are 2 hour time blocks and your child needs 45 minutes for dyslexia help, then they miss whatever is being taught in those 45 minutes.
Then pull them out of a different class, lots of ways to work through it. A child who has dyslexia should not be deprived of challenging work in language arts, especially if that is where they shine.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new school board will still continue the policies of skill-based grading and E3 math, while also continuing to encourage

the practice of no homework and no novels. Enjoy.


It’s called paying for tutoring, enrichment camps and having your children do Great Books.

Jeez stop whining.

Thats right. Why would I expect the school to educate my children beyond the lowest common denominator. Equity does not allow this.

The good news is I can and do provide those opportunities for my kids. The bad news is many can't provide those things. Enjoy.


So you don't support reading intervention for my dyslexic kid? You don't support special education at all?

This doesn’t make sense. Of course I support reading intervention. But while your kid learns to read through school support, my kid deserves challenging novels and discussion with a different group of kids who don’t have the same problems.

FWIW, my child with dyslexia could also participate in discussions about challenging novels, why should they be excluded from that?


They would get that instruction in the whole class discussions on books and in targeted reading comprehension questions for that group of students they are with. You can't devote time to working on dyslexia and get every lesson that other children are getting who don't have it. There is only so much time for reading during the school day. If there are 2 hour time blocks and your child needs 45 minutes for dyslexia help, then they miss whatever is being taught in those 45 minutes.
Then pull them out of a different class, lots of ways to work through it. A child who has dyslexia should not be deprived of challenging work in language arts, especially if that is where they shine.


There are about three activities in language arts a day not all of which are used for targeted instruction towards a special need. I don't know what your complaint is about and how it relates to the school board.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new school board will still continue the policies of skill-based grading and E3 math, while also continuing to encourage

the practice of no homework and no novels. Enjoy.


It’s called paying for tutoring, enrichment camps and having your children do Great Books.

Jeez stop whining.

Thats right. Why would I expect the school to educate my children beyond the lowest common denominator. Equity does not allow this.

The good news is I can and do provide those opportunities for my kids. The bad news is many can't provide those things. Enjoy.


So you don't support reading intervention for my dyslexic kid? You don't support special education at all?

This doesn’t make sense. Of course I support reading intervention. But while your kid learns to read through school support, my kid deserves challenging novels and discussion with a different group of kids who don’t have the same problems.

FWIW, my child with dyslexia could also participate in discussions about challenging novels, why should they be excluded from that?


They would get that instruction in the whole class discussions on books and in targeted reading comprehension questions for that group of students they are with. You can't devote time to working on dyslexia and get every lesson that other children are getting who don't have it. There is only so much time for reading during the school day. If there are 2 hour time blocks and your child needs 45 minutes for dyslexia help, then they miss whatever is being taught in those 45 minutes.
Then pull them out of a different class, lots of ways to work through it. A child who has dyslexia should not be deprived of challenging work in language arts, especially if that is where they shine.

Any kid who can keep up with the general pace of the class can participate, but once the student can no longer keep up, the class should not have to slow the pace to accommodate. This is why tracking in reading and math is important. This obviously results in inequitable outcomes as some kids are different and is frowned upon by the current school board and probably future school board.

Or assign reading multiple chapters for homework and let the student make up the difference at home. This also isn’t viewed favorably in FCPS elementary and middle schools.

A dyslexic kid should be challenged appropriately, but may not be the same challenge as an advanced reader. That should be what equity means. Both challenged…. At different levels.
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Most people I know that have the means have separate tutoring for dyslexia. They also spend a lot of time reading with their child at home and discussing books. This way by middle school the kids are able to get in the general ed or advanced classes without the additional support. The school will work on both reading comprehension and reading as well but they typically can't spend extra time on language arts than what is allotted.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new school board will still continue the policies of skill-based grading and E3 math, while also continuing to encourage

the practice of no homework and no novels. Enjoy.


It’s called paying for tutoring, enrichment camps and having your children do Great Books.

Jeez stop whining.

Thats right. Why would I expect the school to educate my children beyond the lowest common denominator. Equity does not allow this.

The good news is I can and do provide those opportunities for my kids. The bad news is many can't provide those things. Enjoy.


So you don't support reading intervention for my dyslexic kid? You don't support special education at all?

This doesn’t make sense. Of course I support reading intervention. But while your kid learns to read through school support, my kid deserves challenging novels and discussion with a different group of kids who don’t have the same problems.

FWIW, my child with dyslexia could also participate in discussions about challenging novels, why should they be excluded from that?


They would get that instruction in the whole class discussions on books and in targeted reading comprehension questions for that group of students they are with. You can't devote time to working on dyslexia and get every lesson that other children are getting who don't have it. There is only so much time for reading during the school day. If there are 2 hour time blocks and your child needs 45 minutes for dyslexia help, then they miss whatever is being taught in those 45 minutes.
Then pull them out of a different class, lots of ways to work through it. A child who has dyslexia should not be deprived of challenging work in language arts, especially if that is where they shine.

Any kid who can keep up with the general pace of the class can participate, but once the student can no longer keep up, the class should not have to slow the pace to accommodate. This is why tracking in reading and math is important. This obviously results in inequitable outcomes as some kids are different and is frowned upon by the current school board and probably future school board.

Or assign reading multiple chapters for homework and let the student make up the difference at home. This also isn’t viewed favorably in FCPS elementary and middle schools.

A dyslexic kid should be challenged appropriately, but may not be the same challenge as an advanced reader. That should be what equity means. Both challenged…. At different levels.


Which is why audio books can be great for a person with dyslexia. They can listen and follow along. Or they can read at their ability but listen to the text to keep up with the class. I know that the Kindle has a font that is supposed to be good for dyslexics, the letters are weighted at the bottom to hold the letter in place. I love that font. It is also why text to speech programs can be helpful for kids because it allows them to get their thoughts down without the frustration that can come with writing.

There are many great accommodations for kids with dyslexia that allow a child to stay in a regular class or even be in AP/IB classes. Some of us even go on to earn PhDs.


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The new school board will still continue the policies of skill-based grading and E3 math, while also continuing to encourage

the practice of no homework and no novels. Enjoy.


It’s called paying for tutoring, enrichment camps and having your children do Great Books.

Jeez stop whining.

Thats right. Why would I expect the school to educate my children beyond the lowest common denominator. Equity does not allow this.

The good news is I can and do provide those opportunities for my kids. The bad news is many can't provide those things. Enjoy.


So you don't support reading intervention for my dyslexic kid? You don't support special education at all?

This doesn’t make sense. Of course I support reading intervention. But while your kid learns to read through school support, my kid deserves challenging novels and discussion with a different group of kids who don’t have the same problems.

FWIW, my child with dyslexia could also participate in discussions about challenging novels, why should they be excluded from that?


They would get that instruction in the whole class discussions on books and in targeted reading comprehension questions for that group of students they are with. You can't devote time to working on dyslexia and get every lesson that other children are getting who don't have it. There is only so much time for reading during the school day. If there are 2 hour time blocks and your child needs 45 minutes for dyslexia help, then they miss whatever is being taught in those 45 minutes.
Then pull them out of a different class, lots of ways to work through it. A child who has dyslexia should not be deprived of challenging work in language arts, especially if that is where they shine.

Any kid who can keep up with the general pace of the class can participate, but once the student can no longer keep up, the class should not have to slow the pace to accommodate. This is why tracking in reading and math is important. This obviously results in inequitable outcomes as some kids are different and is frowned upon by the current school board and probably future school board.

Or assign reading multiple chapters for homework and let the student make up the difference at home. This also isn’t viewed favorably in FCPS elementary and middle schools.

A dyslexic kid should be challenged appropriately, but may not be the same challenge as an advanced reader. That should be what equity means. Both challenged…. At different levels.


Which is why audio books can be great for a person with dyslexia. They can listen and follow along. Or they can read at their ability but listen to the text to keep up with the class. I know that the Kindle has a font that is supposed to be good for dyslexics, the letters are weighted at the bottom to hold the letter in place. I love that font. It is also why text to speech programs can be helpful for kids because it allows them to get their thoughts down without the frustration that can come with writing.

There are many great accommodations for kids with dyslexia that allow a child to stay in a regular class or even be in AP/IB classes. Some of us even go on to earn PhDs.



It’s great there are so many options, and it sounds like you agree that kids should be met where they are at and sometimes that is at different levels.
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