After all the drama, Big3 college admissions are really as strong as ever this year

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Anonymous wrote:Being an URM on its own will likely no longer be a hook. Most legal experts expect the Supreme Court to issue that decision next month.

Athletic excellence, Legacy, 1st Generation to go to College will likely remain as “hooks”.

Which is pretty ridiculous bc legacy is the most arbitrary unfair classist and mercenary-driven hook of all.

That’s how most of the kids at your kid’s private got there. Now you say it’s ridiculous?

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Anonymous wrote:Being an URM on its own will likely no longer be a hook. Most legal experts expect the Supreme Court to issue that decision next month.

Athletic excellence, Legacy, 1st Generation to go to College will likely remain as “hooks”.

Regardless of what the Supreme Court decides, I find it hard to believe that colleges won't still consider being an URM a hook as they want a diverse student population- they just won't be able to say they consider it.

Being an URM is only a hook or helpful if you meet the other qualifications or most of the other qualifications.

What I do think is true to your point is that the Ivies will always consider URM if they fit the bill regardless of what the Supreme Court says.

That’s why it’s a hook. A student without a hook has to be academically better than students with hooks.

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Anonymous wrote:^ This.
I bet that 90% of Maret's Ivy admits are hooked. The ones I know definitely are.

I would put this at 95% for Maret this year. They're great/smart kids but they got the Ivy Admit because of 1)multi generational legacy 2)athletic recruitment 3)being an URM.
If you are not 2 out of 3 of these, going to Maret is not going to help you get into the Ivy League one bit.

NP but isn’t that the case at every private? Most NCS, STA, Sidwell’s Ivies are hooks, no?

Yes. So we need to stop saying "WOW, Maret 2023 is really amazing!" or "Amazing! Sidwell 2023 is knocking it out of the park!"

It has nothing to do with where these kids attended (or did not attend) high school. They would have the same results coming from GDS, STA, Whitman or Jackson Reed.

No they would NOT. Based on sheer numbers, there are more Whitman, McLean, Langley, Churchill, etc students than Sidwell, Maret, Holton students who are legacies at highly selective colleges. However, those public schools are sending a much lower percentage of students to the Ivies.

Attendance at top private schools make a difference, even if you don’t want to admit it.

So you’re saying that if there are 10 hooked kids at a private school, and they all get into Ivies (and no unhooked kids do), and they represent 15% of the class, and 20 hooked kids at a public school, and they all get into Ivies (and no unhooked kids do), but they represent only 5% of the larger public school class, then the 100% admissions rate for hooked kids from the private is different from the 100% admissions rate for hooked kids from the public.

Ok.

Yes, that’s what I’m saying (minus the hooked vs. hooked part). The private school placed more of its grads in Ivies, based on percentages. Public schools don’t get to brag about the total number of Ivy placements just because they have 600 graduating seniors vs. 100.

Do the math. Look at a good public and count. They're doing well (better!) and getting into schools GDS and Sidwell can't touch. (Why is another question, it is undeniable there is a favoritism towards public.

Name 3 top schools (UNWR top 10 only) that Sidwell and GDS students aren’t going to this year. I’ll wait…

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There seem to be good results from a wide range of private schools.
It makes me wonder why parents obsess with getting their kids into GDS, Sidwell, NCS, St. Albans.
If your kid is bright and hardworking, it seems like many private schools will get them on a good path to college. For example, it is common to deride Gonzaga for not being an academic school but they have strong college admissions this year. Maybe they have a more balanced approach to high school than some of the more high stress academic high schools and it all works out in the end

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Anonymous wrote:^ This.
I bet that 90% of Maret's Ivy admits are hooked. The ones I know definitely are.

I would put this at 95% for Maret this year. They're great/smart kids but they got the Ivy Admit because of 1)multi generational legacy 2)athletic recruitment 3)being an URM.
If you are not 2 out of 3 of these, going to Maret is not going to help you get into the Ivy League one bit.

NP but isn’t that the case at every private? Most NCS, STA, Sidwell’s Ivies are hooks, no?

Yes. So we need to stop saying "WOW, Maret 2023 is really amazing!" or "Amazing! Sidwell 2023 is knocking it out of the park!"

It has nothing to do with where these kids attended (or did not attend) high school. They would have the same results coming from GDS, STA, Whitman or Jackson Reed.

No they would NOT. Based on sheer numbers, there are more Whitman, McLean, Langley, Churchill, etc students than Sidwell, Maret, Holton students who are legacies at highly selective colleges. However, those public schools are sending a much lower percentage of students to the Ivies.

Attendance at top private schools make a difference, even if you don’t want to admit it.

So you’re saying that if there are 10 hooked kids at a private school, and they all get into Ivies (and no unhooked kids do), and they represent 15% of the class, and 20 hooked kids at a public school, and they all get into Ivies (and no unhooked kids do), but they represent only 5% of the larger public school class, then the 100% admissions rate for hooked kids from the private is different from the 100% admissions rate for hooked kids from the public.

Ok.

Yes, that’s what I’m saying (minus the hooked vs. hooked part). The private school placed more of its grads in Ivies, based on percentages. Public schools don’t get to brag about the total number of Ivy placements just because they have 600 graduating seniors vs. 100.

Do the math. Look at a good public and count. They're doing well (better!) and getting into schools GDS and Sidwell can't touch. (Why is another question, it is undeniable there is a favoritism towards public.

Are you drunk or insane?!? There’s no top college that GDS and Sidwell grads haven’t and can’t “touch.” I see that some bitter public school parents come to this forum to post all types of lies.

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Anonymous wrote:There seem to be good results from a wide range of private schools.
It makes me wonder why parents obsess with getting their kids into GDS, Sidwell, NCS, St. Albans.
If your kid is bright and hardworking, it seems like many private schools will get them on a good path to college. For example, it is common to deride Gonzaga for not being an academic school but they have strong college admissions this year. Maybe they have a more balanced approach to high school than some of the more high stress academic high schools and it all works out in the end

The "big 3" are all really great schools, I'm not discounting that, but a good part of the allure and demand for them over the others is the prestige that comes with the name.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at NCS.
From what I can tell:
20% Ivies
10% U of Chicago
10% other top 20 universities
10% top 10 liberal arts colleges
Etc.
That is 50% of the class into TOP20 colleges/universities. Minimum.

Even with the deflated GPAs (well under 4.0), almost no APs, etc.

STA is similar.
Sidwell has pretty much gotten the entire class in top50 schools.
GDS is a bit uneven.

Bullis and Prep have dethroned at least the Cathedral schools (but were they ever rally a top anything), and some have argued even "Sidwell." Note: both Bullis and Georgetown Prep have been very transparent and are revealing each and every matriculation.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at NCS.
From what I can tell:
20% Ivies
10% U of Chicago
10% other top 20 universities
10% top 10 liberal arts colleges
Etc.
That is 50% of the class into TOP20 colleges/universities. Minimum.

Even with the deflated GPAs (well under 4.0), almost no APs, etc.

STA is similar.
Sidwell has pretty much gotten the entire class in top50 schools.
GDS is a bit uneven.

Bullis and Prep have dethroned at least the Cathedral schools (but were they ever rally a top anything), and some have argued even "Sidwell." Note: both Bullis and Georgetown Prep have been very transparent and are revealing each and every matriculation.

People can’t seem to keep Sidwell’s name out of their mouths. It’s not easy being number one.

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Top 5 URM get in first. Your hooked kid gets in second. Your unhooked third. That is how it should be. Because far to long it's been the other way.

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Anonymous wrote:There seem to be good results from a wide range of private schools.
It makes me wonder why parents obsess with getting their kids into GDS, Sidwell, NCS, St. Albans.
If your kid is bright and hardworking, it seems like many private schools will get them on a good path to college. For example, it is common to deride Gonzaga for not being an academic school but they have strong college admissions this year. Maybe they have a more balanced approach to high school than some of the more high stress academic high schools and it all works out in the end

The "big 3" are all really great schools, I'm not discounting that, but a good part of the allure and demand for them over the others is the prestige that comes with the name.

Prestige only in our local area though.
It seems pretty superficial. I think it can be hard for kids from top privates to end up at a university like Michigan or Wisconsin. They are obviously good schools but it can feel confusing to end up at the same school as kids from Jackson Reed, Walls, Burke, Gonzaga, BCC, etc after you have been immersed in an elite environment. At least that is what I have noticed at GDS

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Anonymous wrote:There seem to be good results from a wide range of private schools.
It makes me wonder why parents obsess with getting their kids into GDS, Sidwell, NCS, St. Albans.
If your kid is bright and hardworking, it seems like many private schools will get them on a good path to college. For example, it is common to deride Gonzaga for not being an academic school but they have strong college admissions this year. Maybe they have a more balanced approach to high school than some of the more high stress academic high schools and it all works out in the end

The "big 3" are all really great schools, I'm not discounting that, but a good part of the allure and demand for them over the others is the prestige that comes with the name.

Prestige only in our local area though.
It seems pretty superficial. I think it can be hard for kids from top privates to end up at a university like Michigan or Wisconsin. They are obviously good schools but it can feel confusing to end up at the same school as kids from Jackson Reed, Walls, Burke, Gonzaga, BCC, etc after you have been immersed in an elite environment. At least that is what I have noticed at GDS

That’s hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:There seem to be good results from a wide range of private schools.
It makes me wonder why parents obsess with getting their kids into GDS, Sidwell, NCS, St. Albans.
If your kid is bright and hardworking, it seems like many private schools will get them on a good path to college. For example, it is common to deride Gonzaga for not being an academic school but they have strong college admissions this year. Maybe they have a more balanced approach to high school than some of the more high stress academic high schools and it all works out in the end

The "big 3" are all really great schools, I'm not discounting that, but a good part of the allure and demand for them over the others is the prestige that comes with the name.

Prestige only in our local area though.
It seems pretty superficial. I think it can be hard for kids from top privates to end up at a university like Michigan or Wisconsin. They are obviously good schools but it can feel confusing to end up at the same school as kids from Jackson Reed, Walls, Burke, Gonzaga, BCC, etc after you have been immersed in an elite environment. At least that is what I have noticed at GDS

I can’t speak for the others, but Sidwell is known internationally (thanks to Obama). Google the name and you will find articles about Sidwell from around the world (especially UK papers).

There are only a handful of private schools that have national (not to mention international) name recognition. There’s no question that Sidwell is among that group.

Btw, I’m not a Sidwell parent but I don’t see any need to lie about facts.

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Bullis and Prep have dethroned at least the Cathedral schools (but were they ever rally a top anything), and some have argued even "Sidwell." Note: both Bullis and Georgetown Prep have been very transparent and are revealing each and every matriculation.

This is false. STA has not posted admissions results, but objectively they are extremely impressive. Virtually all top 50 (though almost all of the Ivy admits are athletic recruits or legacies).. Prep has many, many students going to schools ranked far below that.

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Anonymous wrote:There seem to be good results from a wide range of private schools.
It makes me wonder why parents obsess with getting their kids into GDS, Sidwell, NCS, St. Albans.
If your kid is bright and hardworking, it seems like many private schools will get them on a good path to college. For example, it is common to deride Gonzaga for not being an academic school but they have strong college admissions this year. Maybe they have a more balanced approach to high school than some of the more high stress academic high schools and it all works out in the end

The "big 3" are all really great schools, I'm not discounting that, but a good part of the allure and demand for them over the others is the prestige that comes with the name.

Prestige only in our local area though.
It seems pretty superficial. I think it can be hard for kids from top privates to end up at a university like Michigan or Wisconsin. They are obviously good schools but it can feel confusing to end up at the same school as kids from Jackson Reed, Walls, Burke, Gonzaga, BCC, etc after you have been immersed in an elite environment. At least that is what I have noticed at GDS

I am a "big 3" alum who went to a school like Michigan or Wisconsin, and trust me, it is not confusing at all. In fact it was an active choice to go to a big school that had spirit, sports and a ton of opportunities.

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STA has 14 kids going to ivy’s and half of them are Athletic recruits and the other half very strong academics.
A good amount going to uva, Georgetown, BC and U Chicago.
The rest of the kids going all over places
Majority to top 30 schools.