Told by christian friend that my lifelong depression is because I don’t “know Jesus”

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

PP here. I took a hiatus and thought i would get some real responses once I got back, but apparently not. I'll move on with life now, as should you.

[Anonymous]

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

This forum attracts a lot of lonely misfits seeking an outlet for their rage issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

You don't have to be Christian, or any religion, to be evil. It's a human trait that some people have irrespective of religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

This looks like one disappointed poster threadskitting all over trying to bury the embarrassing parts of the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

This looks like one disappointed poster threadskitting all over trying to bury the embarrassing parts of the thread.

The most embarrassing part is Gumball poster.

They have serious issues and need help, because they’re centering their life and each day around something they don’t believe in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

This looks like one disappointed poster threadskitting all over trying to bury the embarrassing parts of the thread.

The most embarrassing part is Gumball poster.

They have serious issues and need help, because they’re centering their life and each day around something they don’t believe in.

I think it's embarrassing that there's a poster who names other posters silly things like "gumball poster".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

This forum attracts a lot of lonely misfits seeking an outlet for their rage issues.

like pp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

This forum attracts a lot of lonely misfits seeking an outlet for their rage issues.

like pp

Was referring to the two ranting atheists who spend 24/7 here. That’s you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

There appear to be only two obsessive hater trolls and the occasional, seemingly more well-adjusted, +1 atheist posters. But sadly, neither of the two obsessives seems to have any social or family life so they’re here 24/7. As a result, these two are all it takes. Also they work in tandem to +1 each other and to bump and gish gallop threads.

- Ranting atheist. This poster is consumed by hate and rage to the point where you need to wipe her spittle off your screen. The moderator often removes her posts and then she’s more civil for a week or two. Until she starts spewing again, the moderator removes it, rinse and repeat.

- Inane emoji troll. This poster is dumb as bricks but s/he has no other life and is here 24/7. She’s cut down on the 😂 use because it identified her as a troll, but you can still identify her by the cringe-worthy ignorance, ad hominems, and gish galloping.

In a better world, these trolls would find therapy or a better outlet for their energies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

There appear to be only two obsessive hater trolls and the occasional, seemingly more well-adjusted, +1 atheist posters. But sadly, neither of the two obsessives seems to have any social or family life so they’re here 24/7. As a result, these two are all it takes. Also they work in tandem to +1 each other and to bump and gish gallop threads.

- Ranting atheist. This poster is consumed by hate and rage to the point where you need to wipe her spittle off your screen. The moderator often removes her posts and then she’s more civil for a week or two. Until she starts spewing again, the moderator removes it, rinse and repeat.

- Inane emoji troll. This poster is dumb as bricks but s/he has no other life and is here 24/7. She’s cut down on the 😂 use because it identified her as a troll, but you can still identify her by the cringe-worthy ignorance, ad hominems, and gish galloping.

In a better world, these trolls would find therapy or a better outlet for their energies.

Dear pp -- please take your last sentence to heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

There appear to be only two obsessive hater trolls and the occasional, seemingly more well-adjusted, +1 atheist posters. But sadly, neither of the two obsessives seems to have any social or family life so they’re here 24/7. As a result, these two are all it takes. Also they work in tandem to +1 each other and to bump and gish gallop threads.

- Ranting atheist. This poster is consumed by hate and rage to the point where you need to wipe her spittle off your screen. The moderator often removes her posts and then she’s more civil for a week or two. Until she starts spewing again, the moderator removes it, rinse and repeat.

- Inane emoji troll. This poster is dumb as bricks but s/he has no other life and is here 24/7. She’s cut down on the 😂 use because it identified her as a troll, but you can still identify her by the cringe-worthy ignorance, ad hominems, and gish galloping.

In a better world, these trolls would find therapy or a better outlet for their energies.

Dear pp -- please take your last sentence to heart.

Hit a nerve apparently. Also, impressive that you replied within 15 minutes, you really are on here 24/7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

This looks like one disappointed poster threadskitting all over trying to bury the embarrassing parts of the thread.

The most embarrassing part is Gumball poster.

They have serious issues and need help, because they’re centering their life and each day around something they don’t believe in.

‘Gumball poster” here.

If you had just answered the question, you wouldn’t have had to resort to all the childish pejoratives and multiple posts trying to cover up whatever it is you’re unhappy about

I haven’t decided if I find this flood of desperate posts sad or amusing yet. But I think they speak for themselves.

I will add that if you would like to engage in a thoughtful, mature discussion, I would be happy to join you in that. I have indicated my willingness to do so by thoughtfully responding to everything you asked until you stopped doing so in turn. If you would like to re-engage thoughtfully, and without pejoratives, Please indicate so by answering the question about what your response would be to the gumball analogy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

This looks like one disappointed poster threadskitting all over trying to bury the embarrassing parts of the thread.

The most embarrassing part is Gumball poster.

They have serious issues and need help, because they’re centering their life and each day around something they don’t believe in.

‘Gumball poster” here.

If you had just answered the question, you wouldn’t have had to resort to all the childish pejoratives and multiple posts trying to cover up whatever it is you’re unhappy about

I haven’t decided if I find this flood of desperate posts sad or amusing yet. But I think they speak for themselves.

I will add that if you would like to engage in a thoughtful, mature discussion, I would be happy to join you in that. I have indicated my willingness to do so by thoughtfully responding to everything you asked until you stopped doing so in turn. If you would like to re-engage thoughtfully, and without pejoratives, Please indicate so by answering the question about what your response would be to the gumball analogy.

Let the gish galloping begin. Must get away from embarrassing name and shame….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1 agree. So many posts here are obvious trolls, and each troll post is customized to show how evil religious people are. But just Christians, not any other religious group.


+2

Christian PP here. I don't frequent the religion forum much so had no idea there were so many trolls. My mistake for believing people actually want to have real discussions. I really find if fascinating how much people hate Christianity.

There appear to be only two obsessive hater trolls and the occasional, seemingly more well-adjusted, +1 atheist posters. But sadly, neither of the two obsessives seems to have any social or family life so they’re here 24/7. As a result, these two are all it takes. Also they work in tandem to +1 each other and to bump and gish gallop threads.

- Ranting atheist. This poster is consumed by hate and rage to the point where you need to wipe her spittle off your screen. The moderator often removes her posts and then she’s more civil for a week or two. Until she starts spewing again, the moderator removes it, rinse and repeat.

- Inane emoji troll. This poster is dumb as bricks but s/he has no other life and is here 24/7. She’s cut down on the 😂 use because it identified her as a troll, but you can still identify her by the cringe-worthy ignorance, ad hominems, and gish galloping.

In a better world, these trolls would find therapy or a better outlet for their energies.

Rings true