Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 4

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on DCUM who constantly says "I wish i had the confidence of a mediocre white man". Every time i see that, i am reminded of mediocre and entitled hapless Harry. It's almost poetic justice that the hero of some young black women is the ultimate mediocre white man.

I get the point you are trying to make, but Harry just screams insecure and lacking in confidence. Part of why he's flitting from one thing to another looking for validation and trying to prove a point to...someone.

Maybe if he was just a normal Joe. But he's royalty. Royalty off leash. He has had people guiding and advising him his entire life - the queen, Charles, his mother, aides and nannies, people in the army. He's lost because he's only got one person now, Meghan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so sad that Megan is not letting Harry go back to England for Xmas to see his granny. Probably her last one.

Are there sources for this? Did Meghan tell you that she's not letting Harry go back?

Are there sources saying it isn’t true? Did Megan tel you otherwise?

So basically if no one can prove or disprove it, anyone can say anything they want about Meghan. Got it.

Ahem....

Megan eats babies for breakfast. And she never covers her mouth when she sneezes. And she's a mouth breather.

Looking forward to what other posters have to say about terrible, horrible Meg.

Meghan is giving $1,000,000 to each of the 900 better.com laid off employees.

She is giving $900,000,000 to laid off mortgage company employees? Dont be ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on DCUM who constantly says "I wish i had the confidence of a mediocre white man". Every time i see that, i am reminded of mediocre and entitled hapless Harry. It's almost poetic justice that the hero of some young black women is the ultimate mediocre white man.

I get the point you are trying to make, but Harry just screams insecure and lacking in confidence. Part of why he's flitting from one thing to another looking for validation and trying to prove a point to...someone.

Maybe if he was just a normal Joe. But he's royalty. Royalty off leash. He has had people guiding and advising him his entire life - the queen, Charles, his mother, aides and nannies, people in the army. He's lost because he's only got one person now, Meghan.

He doesn't strike me insecure or lacking confidence, but he does seem like someone who's still dealing with a major trauma.

I actually think it takes a ton of courage do to what he's done. A ton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on DCUM who constantly says "I wish i had the confidence of a mediocre white man". Every time i see that, i am reminded of mediocre and entitled hapless Harry. It's almost poetic justice that the hero of some young black women is the ultimate mediocre white man.

I get the point you are trying to make, but Harry just screams insecure and lacking in confidence. Part of why he's flitting from one thing to another looking for validation and trying to prove a point to...someone.

Maybe if he was just a normal Joe. But he's royalty. Royalty off leash. He has had people guiding and advising him his entire life - the queen, Charles, his mother, aides and nannies, people in the army. He's lost because he's only got one person now, Meghan.

He doesn't strike me insecure or lacking confidence, but he does seem like someone who's still dealing with a major trauma.

I actually think it takes a ton of courage do to what he's done. A ton.

Agreed 1000%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s so sad that Megan is not letting Harry go back to England for Xmas to see his granny. Probably her last one.

Are there sources for this? Did Meghan tell you that she's not letting Harry go back?

Are there sources saying it isn’t true? Did Megan tel you otherwise?

Right?!? These "prove it!" posters are getting beyond tedious, especially given that M&H are PR creatures that like to brief and curate their public image without direct attribution and through "sources" to skirt accountability. Most of what they directly say publicly is banal and anodyne, if not outright dumb and sloppy, but if you can't read between the lines for a better sense of what is going on...maybe this ain't for you!

Oh you seem terribly naive about the world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on DCUM who constantly says "I wish i had the confidence of a mediocre white man". Every time i see that, i am reminded of mediocre and entitled hapless Harry. It's almost poetic justice that the hero of some young black women is the ultimate mediocre white man.

I get the point you are trying to make, but Harry just screams insecure and lacking in confidence. Part of why he's flitting from one thing to another looking for validation and trying to prove a point to...someone.

Maybe if he was just a normal Joe. But he's royalty. Royalty off leash. He has had people guiding and advising him his entire life - the queen, Charles, his mother, aides and nannies, people in the army. He's lost because he's only got one person now, Meghan.

He doesn't strike me insecure or lacking confidence, but he does seem like someone who's still dealing with a major trauma.

I actually think it takes a ton of courage do to what he's done. A ton.

Agreed 1000%.

Another +1.

I’ll add that he was brought up to be expendable, in a family where many of the “spares” don’t do well. He’s had major trauma and loss that wasn’t adequately dealt with. He seemed to find a good place for himself in the military — and lost that place due to the attention of the press. I think it takes a lot of courage and vulnerability to do what he seems to be trying to accomplish— particularly with constant public scrutiny.

I still think it’s unfortunate all the way around that Harry wasn’t allowed to use the part in - part out model that other BRF members seem to enjoy. NP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on DCUM who constantly says "I wish i had the confidence of a mediocre white man". Every time i see that, i am reminded of mediocre and entitled hapless Harry. It's almost poetic justice that the hero of some young black women is the ultimate mediocre white man.

I get the point you are trying to make, but Harry just screams insecure and lacking in confidence. Part of why he's flitting from one thing to another looking for validation and trying to prove a point to...someone.

Maybe if he was just a normal Joe. But he's royalty. Royalty off leash. He has had people guiding and advising him his entire life - the queen, Charles, his mother, aides and nannies, people in the army. He's lost because he's only got one person now, Meghan.

He doesn't strike me insecure or lacking confidence, but he does seem like someone who's still dealing with a major trauma.

I actually think it takes a ton of courage do to what he's done. A ton.

Agreed 1000%.

Another +1.

I’ll add that he was brought up to be expendable, in a family where many of the “spares” don’t do well. He’s had major trauma and loss that wasn’t adequately dealt with. He seemed to find a good place for himself in the military — and lost that place due to the attention of the press. I think it takes a lot of courage and vulnerability to do what he seems to be trying to accomplish— particularly with constant public scrutiny.

I still think it’s unfortunate all the way around that Harry wasn’t allowed to use the part in - part out model that other BRF members seem to enjoy. NP

I think that’s just because the others never talked crap about the firm. That’s their issue. Megan in particular.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on DCUM who constantly says "I wish i had the confidence of a mediocre white man". Every time i see that, i am reminded of mediocre and entitled hapless Harry. It's almost poetic justice that the hero of some young black women is the ultimate mediocre white man.

I get the point you are trying to make, but Harry just screams insecure and lacking in confidence. Part of why he's flitting from one thing to another looking for validation and trying to prove a point to...someone.

Maybe if he was just a normal Joe. But he's royalty. Royalty off leash. He has had people guiding and advising him his entire life - the queen, Charles, his mother, aides and nannies, people in the army. He's lost because he's only got one person now, Meghan.

He doesn't strike me insecure or lacking confidence, but he does seem like someone who's still dealing with a major trauma.

I actually think it takes a ton of courage do to what he's done. A ton.

Agreed 1000%.

Another +1.

I’ll add that he was brought up to be expendable, in a family where many of the “spares” don’t do well. He’s had major trauma and loss that wasn’t adequately dealt with. He seemed to find a good place for himself in the military — and lost that place due to the attention of the press. I think it takes a lot of courage and vulnerability to do what he seems to be trying to accomplish— particularly with constant public scrutiny.

I still think it’s unfortunate all the way around that Harry wasn’t allowed to use the part in - part out model that other BRF members seem to enjoy. NP

I think that’s just because the others never talked crap about the firm. That’s their issue. Megan in particular.

This is not true in the slightest. Yawn.

[Anonymous]

Is there a way for them to ever go back? Just take the leap with me.

What would that look like? With the passing of the Queen, would that leave an opening for a return? Is it even possible? What if M&H really wanted it? Could they? How?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on DCUM who constantly says "I wish i had the confidence of a mediocre white man". Every time i see that, i am reminded of mediocre and entitled hapless Harry. It's almost poetic justice that the hero of some young black women is the ultimate mediocre white man.

I get the point you are trying to make, but Harry just screams insecure and lacking in confidence. Part of why he's flitting from one thing to another looking for validation and trying to prove a point to...someone.

Maybe if he was just a normal Joe. But he's royalty. Royalty off leash. He has had people guiding and advising him his entire life - the queen, Charles, his mother, aides and nannies, people in the army. He's lost because he's only got one person now, Meghan.

Yes, because as soon as they got married she took his cell phone and cut his phone lines

Also some of the worse decisions he’s made in his life (like wearing a Nazi uniform to a party or calling his army mates racial slurs) where when he has these people guiding and advising him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Is there a way for them to ever go back? Just take the leap with me.

What would that look like? With the passing of the Queen, would that leave an opening for a return? Is it even possible? What if M&H really wanted it? Could they? How?

I could see Charles letting them come back just because he needs bodies. Maybe they could boot Andrew out of his place and put them there? I don’t think the Cambridges would want them to ever come back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on DCUM who constantly says "I wish i had the confidence of a mediocre white man". Every time i see that, i am reminded of mediocre and entitled hapless Harry. It's almost poetic justice that the hero of some young black women is the ultimate mediocre white man.

I get the point you are trying to make, but Harry just screams insecure and lacking in confidence. Part of why he's flitting from one thing to another looking for validation and trying to prove a point to...someone.

Maybe if he was just a normal Joe. But he's royalty. Royalty off leash. He has had people guiding and advising him his entire life - the queen, Charles, his mother, aides and nannies, people in the army. He's lost because he's only got one person now, Meghan.

He doesn't strike me insecure or lacking confidence, but he does seem like someone who's still dealing with a major trauma.

I actually think it takes a ton of courage do to what he's done. A ton.

Agreed 1000%.

Another +1.

I’ll add that he was brought up to be expendable, in a family where many of the “spares” don’t do well. He’s had major trauma and loss that wasn’t adequately dealt with. He seemed to find a good place for himself in the military — and lost that place due to the attention of the press. I think it takes a lot of courage and vulnerability to do what he seems to be trying to accomplish— particularly with constant public scrutiny.

I still think it’s unfortunate all the way around that Harry wasn’t allowed to use the part in - part out model that other BRF members seem to enjoy. NP

I think that’s just because the others never talked crap about the firm. That’s their issue. Megan in particular.

This is not true in the slightest. Yawn.

It is the truth.
Yawn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Is there a way for them to ever go back? Just take the leap with me.

What would that look like? With the passing of the Queen, would that leave an opening for a return? Is it even possible? What if M&H really wanted it? Could they? How?

I think the Queen would allow them back — with some ironclad structures in place, perhaps focusing on Commonwealth issues, although it would be hard to imagine how to handle their finances at this point. I think that without COVID, the Queen would have encouraged more interactions with them as a family, while holding them at arms length re: becoming working royals again. While she probably sympathizes with her grandson, her priority is the continuity of the monarchy.

I think Charles may be deeply hurt, and also petulant. While I imagine that he might be amenable to their return, I think he’s also concerned about setting things up for William and George, and may view Harry — the spare, as an unwelcome burden, since William seems uninvested in repairing their relationship. I think William was very happy calling the shots and using Harry as a placeholder until his kids are old enough to assume public responsibilities. William seems antagonistic to a more independent Harry, vs the happy-to-be-his-sidekick baby brother.

I could imagine two things that would help. One would be if Charles were to visit them in California, dote a bit over the grandkids, and try to understand Harry and Meghan’s quite real concerns that the family did not adequately address. Another would be for Harry and Meghan to spend summers and some holidays with the BRF, and make genuine efforts to rebuild their relationships with the family, especially for the benefit of the kids, possibly even considering a plan for boarding schools in the future, to reinforce the British side of their identity.

tldr: Yes, but William is butt-hurt, Charles is petulant, and if the likely expectation is for Harry to make the first move and the fifteenth move, and for Harry and Meghan to grovel a bit, it’s not likely to happen, particularly once the Queen is no longer in charge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Is there a way for them to ever go back? Just take the leap with me.

What would that look like? With the passing of the Queen, would that leave an opening for a return? Is it even possible? What if M&H really wanted it? Could they? How?

I think the Queen would allow them back — with some ironclad structures in place, perhaps focusing on Commonwealth issues, although it would be hard to imagine how to handle their finances at this point. I think that without COVID, the Queen would have encouraged more interactions with them as a family, while holding them at arms length re: becoming working royals again. While she probably sympathizes with her grandson, her priority is the continuity of the monarchy.

I think Charles may be deeply hurt, and also petulant. While I imagine that he might be amenable to their return, I think he’s also concerned about setting things up for William and George, and may view Harry — the spare, as an unwelcome burden, since William seems uninvested in repairing their relationship. I think William was very happy calling the shots and using Harry as a placeholder until his kids are old enough to assume public responsibilities. William seems antagonistic to a more independent Harry, vs the happy-to-be-his-sidekick baby brother.

I could imagine two things that would help. One would be if Charles were to visit them in California, dote a bit over the grandkids, and try to understand Harry and Meghan’s quite real concerns that the family did not adequately address. Another would be for Harry and Meghan to spend summers and some holidays with the BRF, and make genuine efforts to rebuild their relationships with the family, especially for the benefit of the kids, possibly even considering a plan for boarding schools in the future, to reinforce the British side of their identity.

tldr: Yes, but William is butt-hurt, Charles is petulant, and if the likely expectation is for Harry to make the first move and the fifteenth move, and for Harry and Meghan to grovel a bit, it’s not likely to happen, particularly once the Queen is no longer in charge.

DP. There was some reports that Kate had been the facilitator and go-between for the brothers. I don't know how true that was but it sounds reasonable for how many families work - the mother/grandmother or a sister (SIL) will manage the emotional health of the family.

She wasn't close friends with Meghan and hasn't shown any signs of being interested in being the one to heal the rift between the families. Which makes sense, M&H left. Why pursue them? If they want to return, that's their decision, not Kate's or anyone else's in the BRF.

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