DA vs ECNL vs everything else

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


Thanks FCV dad.


Not a FCV dad...don't insult me....like the paid staff at LS insulted you with that post...lmfao


Sorry about that FCV Coach.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


They could have had girls DA, but they chose ECNL instead. "SoccerWire previously reported on Virginia Development Academy removing its teams from the Girls DA in favor of the ECNL and Loudoun Soccer, another major Washington, D.C.-area club, declining a Girls DA invite in order to join the ECNL instead. " https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/more-large-youth-clubs-leave-girls-da-for-all-in-ecnl-status/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


They could have had girls DA, but they chose ECNL instead. "SoccerWire previously reported on Virginia Development Academy removing its teams from the Girls DA in favor of the ECNL and Loudoun Soccer, another major Washington, D.C.-area club, declining a Girls DA invite in order to join the ECNL instead. " https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/more-large-youth-clubs-leave-girls-da-for-all-in-ecnl-status/


No, they couldn’t work out a deal with Spirit. Loudoun was never awarded a Girls DA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


They could have had girls DA, but they chose ECNL instead. "SoccerWire previously reported on Virginia Development Academy removing its teams from the Girls DA in favor of the ECNL and Loudoun Soccer, another major Washington, D.C.-area club, declining a Girls DA invite in order to join the ECNL instead. "
https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/more-large-youth-clubs-leave-girls-da-for-all-in-ecnl-status/




Bwahhaaaaaaaaaa
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


Thanks FCV dad.


Not a FCV dad...don't insult me....like the paid staff at LS insulted you with that post...lmfao


Sorry about that FCV Coach.




Lol, probably the one that has been frantically calling and emailing all those parents that are leaving begging them to stay and telling all of them how much better they are than the other clubs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


Thanks FCV dad.


Not a FCV dad...don't insult me....like the paid staff at LS insulted you with that post...lmfao


Sorry about that FCV Coach.




Lol, probably the one that has been frantically calling and emailing all those parents that are leaving begging them to stay and telling all of them how much better they are than the other clubs.


So they have ECNL now. Why worry about the past. Look at the future. That doesn't bode well for FCV DA don't you think?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


Thanks FCV dad.


Not a FCV dad...don't insult me....like the paid staff at LS insulted you with that post...lmfao


Sorry about that FCV Coach.




Lol, probably the one that has been frantically calling and emailing all those parents that are leaving begging them to stay and telling all of them how much better they are than the other clubs.


So they have ECNL now. Why worry about the past. Look at the future. That doesn't bode well for FCV DA don't you think?


ECNL is on life support

McLean 05 has been completely dismantled.
Loudoun 05 has been completely dismantled
McLean 04 was almost dismantled. Will be next year.
Bryc 05 in last place
BRYC 04 is weak
VDA players leaving for DA's







Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


Thanks FCV dad.


Not a FCV dad...don't insult me....like the paid staff at LS insulted you with that post...lmfao


Sorry about that FCV Coach.




Lol, probably the one that has been frantically calling and emailing all those parents that are leaving begging them to stay and telling all of them how much better they are than the other clubs.


So they have ECNL now. Why worry about the past. Look at the future. That doesn't bode well for FCV DA don't you think?


ECNL is on life support

McLean 05 has been completely dismantled.
Loudoun 05 has been completely dismantled
McLean 04 was almost dismantled. Will be next year.
Bryc 05 in last place
BRYC 04 is weak
VDA players leaving for DA's



Where do you get your info regarding Mclean and Loudoun 05's? BRYC 04/05 are on the weaker side but their older age groups are very strong and solid. There will always be some birth years that have a weaker player pool while others are stronger. As far as I know VDA retained most of their players. Yes, there was some movement but definitely nothing out of the ordinary there.
It is still a good option for those that don't want to commit to the DA life style or happen to be Elite players but need more time to develop. I have seen several great ECNL that would beat many low end DA or mid tier DA teams. Just because your club is DA doesn't mean your daughter is on the superior team









Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism


How many MLS or NWSL games have you attended? If you don't do that, the free academies will never exist in the USA. It's also not as black and white as you say in Europe. The American youth sports business phenomenon is taking hold there too. But at least the transfer market makes it worth the investment in academies there. It will happen here eventually, but will happen sooner if everyone on this and other youth soccer chat boards each had season tickets to the local pro clubs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism


How many MLS or NWSL games have you attended? If you don't do that, the free academies will never exist in the USA. It's also not as black and white as you say in Europe. The American youth sports business phenomenon is taking hold there too. But at least the transfer market makes it worth the investment in academies there. It will happen here eventually, but will happen sooner if everyone on this and other youth soccer chat boards each had season tickets to the local pro clubs.


What is so great about the transfer fees? Do not think that will happen here - not for minor children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism


How many MLS or NWSL games have you attended? If you don't do that, the free academies will never exist in the USA. It's also not as black and white as you say in Europe. The American youth sports business phenomenon is taking hold there too. But at least the transfer market makes it worth the investment in academies there. It will happen here eventually, but will happen sooner if everyone on this and other youth soccer chat boards each had season tickets to the local pro clubs.


What is so great about the transfer fees? Do not think that will happen here - not for minor children.

The transfer fees, or avoiding having to pay them later, are the financial incentive for pro academies. Whey else would they invest at all? Do you understand business? If you can develop a player from scratch, you can sign them to your club without having to buy them from another team once they become stars. Almost every pro academy in the world has a mandate to graduate at least one player to the first team every year. If they spend $5 Million per year on the entire academy, that covers their investment.

In the USA, some of that incentive exists now to develop players in MLS and then sell them to other teams. But it's very rare. The biggest incentive for now is to have the homegrown player rights so teams can get players after college without the crap shoot of the draft.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


Thanks FCV dad.


Not a FCV dad...don't insult me....like the paid staff at LS insulted you with that post...lmfao


Sorry about that FCV Coach.




Lol, probably the one that has been frantically calling and emailing all those parents that are leaving begging them to stay and telling all of them how much better they are than the other clubs.


So they have ECNL now. Why worry about the past. Look at the future. That doesn't bode well for FCV DA don't you think?


ECNL is on life support

McLean 05 has been completely dismantled.
Loudoun 05 has been completely dismantled
McLean 04 was almost dismantled. Will be next year.
Bryc 05 in last place
BRYC 04 is weak
VDA players leaving for DA's



Where do you get your info regarding Mclean and Loudoun 05's? BRYC 04/05 are on the weaker side but their older age groups are very strong and solid. There will always be some birth years that have a weaker player pool while others are stronger. As far as I know VDA retained most of their players. Yes, there was some movement but definitely nothing out of the ordinary there.
It is still a good option for those that don't want to commit to the DA life style or happen to be Elite players but need more time to develop. I have seen several great ECNL that would beat many low end DA or mid tier DA teams. Just because your club is DA doesn't mean your daughter is on the superior team
quote]



Dude. ...stop being emotional. I'm telling you facts. Never said which one is better. 03 and above is not effected by DA like 04 and below are.

Do you see a trend or not?

I do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


They could have had girls DA, but they chose ECNL instead. "SoccerWire previously reported on Virginia Development Academy removing its teams from the Girls DA in favor of the ECNL and Loudoun Soccer, another major Washington, D.C.-area club, declining a Girls DA invite in order to join the ECNL instead. " https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/more-large-youth-clubs-leave-girls-da-for-all-in-ecnl-status/


No, they couldn’t work out a deal with Spirit. Loudoun was never awarded a Girls DA.


No, the deal with the Spirit was for LAST YEAR, not the 18/19 year. Read the article and you will realize that .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


Thanks FCV dad.


Not a FCV dad...don't insult me....like the paid staff at LS insulted you with that post...lmfao


Sorry about that FCV Coach.




Lol, probably the one that has been frantically calling and emailing all those parents that are leaving begging them to stay and telling all of them how much better they are than the other clubs.


So they have ECNL now. Why worry about the past. Look at the future. That doesn't bode well for FCV DA don't you think?


ECNL is on life support

McLean 05 has been completely dismantled.
Loudoun 05 has been completely dismantled
McLean 04 was almost dismantled. Will be next year.
Bryc 05 in last place
BRYC 04 is weak
VDA players leaving for DA's



Where do you get your info regarding Mclean and Loudoun? BRYC 04/05 are on the weaker side but their older age groups are very strong and solid. There will always be some birth years that have a weaker player pool while others are stronger. As far as I know VDA retained most of their players. Yes, there was some movement but definitely nothing out of the ordinary there.
It is still a good option for those that don't want to commit to the DA life style or happen to be Elite players but need more time to develop. I have seen several great ECNL that would beat many low end DA or mid tier DA teams. Just because your club is DA doesn't mean your daughter is on the superior team
quote]



Dude. ...stop being emotional. I'm telling you facts. Never said which one is better. 03 and above is not effected by DA like 04 and below are.

Do you see a trend or not?

I do.





How is this post emotional when all I am asking for is how you obtained your information regarding Mclean and Loudoun ECNL? In regards to ECNL being on life support only the future will be able to tell. A couple of big clubs left DA after their first year and returned to ECNL as they decided it was not for them. Unfortunately we will never be able to find out how ECNL teams compare to DA since US Soccer made sure those two leagues never compete.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.


Thanks FCV dad.


Not a FCV dad...don't insult me....like the paid staff at LS insulted you with that post...lmfao


Sorry about that FCV Coach.




Lol, probably the one that has been frantically calling and emailing all those parents that are leaving begging them to stay and telling all of them how much better they are than the other clubs.


So they have ECNL now. Why worry about the past. Look at the future. That doesn't bode well for FCV DA don't you think?


ECNL is on life support

McLean 05 has been completely dismantled.
Loudoun 05 has been completely dismantled
McLean 04 was almost dismantled. Will be next year.
Bryc 05 in last place
BRYC 04 is weak
VDA players leaving for DA's



Where do you get your info regarding Mclean and Loudoun 05's? BRYC 04/05 are on the weaker side but their older age groups are very strong and solid. There will always be some birth years that have a weaker player pool while others are stronger. As far as I know VDA retained most of their players. Yes, there was some movement but definitely nothing out of the ordinary there.
It is still a good option for those that don't want to commit to the DA life style or happen to be Elite players but need more time to develop. I have seen several great ECNL that would beat many low end DA or mid tier DA teams. Just because your club is DA doesn't mean your daughter is on the superior team
quote]



Dude. ...stop being emotional. I'm telling you facts. Never said which one is better. 03 and above is not effected by DA like 04 and below are.

Do you see a trend or not?

I do.


OK, so following your logic:

WS 03 - worst in division, one of worst in the country
WS 04 - worst in division, one of the worst in the country

WS rising 06/07 - offering every player (almost) a spot, even non starters on weak second teams from other clubs

I am sure you are going to tell everyone how next year it will be better, maybe so, but facts are facts, so tell me again why DA is better than ECNL? Or should we all just call it what it is, FCV is better than the ECNL alternatives in the area. I do not see how WS is any better than the ECNL alternatives.
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