DA vs ECNL vs everything else

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an interesting conversation on college versus pro for the girls. If your DD isn’t a Mallory Pugh (or a Lindsay Horan, who did skip college to go play in France before coming back to the NWSL and WNT I believe), isn’t it a good idea to use soccer to get a college degree? I’m making these numbers up, but let’s say my DD is in the 20% of 15 year old girls nationally who would be capable of playing for a top college team, but I don’t know whether she’s in the 6% that can then play NWSL, or the 0.5% that an go USWNT. If you know you’re in the 20%, but the higher and narrower levels are a crapshoot, AND you know that only a few of the NWSL pro players, generally those on the USWNT, can actually pay their rent and otherwise make a living on their soccer salaries . . . Why wouldn’t you want a college degree to be part of what your kid gets out of soccer, even if the in-college development isn’t fabulous?

What’s the development for at that stage, I guess? Obviously, if my daughter is good enough to make it to the NWSL or the WNT, that’s great and I’ll support that. But I don’t think forgoing college to go pro makes a ton of life sense on the women’s side unless your DD is in a very rarified category—and you know that she is because the soccer world is tellling her and you that already. if she’s not in that category, well, it’s hard to go back to school as a 26 year old.

It's called dreams and grit. If she's in the top 20% at 15, she has a chance. If she has a dream, she has a chance. If she has grit, she has the one ingredient every successful pro has. Team USA may be elusive, but there are a lot of pro options surfacing globally. Taking any of those paths and getting to live in another country and to add being a professional athlete to her life long resume probably prepare her and set her apart from other job applicants pretty well in the game of life after soccer. And she'll know within the first 2 or 3 years if team USA (or another country if you have heritage elsewhere?) are in her future. If not, and the money's not there, and the learning has stopped, and the dream is dead, she's still only 20 or 21 and can go to school a more rounded and experienced person.

On the college option, she may get a scholarship offer to play, but what if it's not one of the top 10 schools in soccer or top 5 in her chosen major? If it's not, then it's just 4 years of life experience and checking a box during her prime athletic years that she'll never get back. D1 sports dominates college life. It's a job. They could end up miserable, but can't quit because of the money. That box can always be checked, and when she's older she might actually realize what she really wants major in and be more focused and successful in academics without the distraction of a full time "job" at school.

It's not predestined which ones at 15 will go all the way. For the most part, they all can. If they have the mentality and talent, the grit is what will separate them as they move up the latter.

And that's what the development is about. If you don't seek the most challenging situations, you'll never know if the grit is there. She should never be the star on any youth team. Move on, move up. Don't follow the dogma of middle aged men who've only ever coached youth soccer in their lives and taken your checks and are more focused on using your dd to win games to build their business rather than working to push her out of her comfort zone so you can both find out if her dream can come true.

The same logic applies to the boys as well.

[Anonymous]

And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism

You understand that it is actually rare that kids live at the academies. Most of the kids live their normal lives at home and go to the academies for training in the same manner as we take our kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because college sports is NADA in Europe.

College sports is an American thing...and it isn't the reason we suck.

Iceland has 200,000 people in the entire country. Northern Virginia has 2 million....Nuff said.

Can we just say school sports is an American thing...?

Yes. And that they are - in soccer - a setback for any serious player. Every coach I have asked (100% without exception) say that college soccer is a barrier to player development and that it is absolutely better to by pass it. Even though they all acknowledge that in the US, that's just not how it works right now. The general answer is to go to Europe.

And that's what a number of stars (men and women) from the US have done over time.

This happens to Tennis too. No grand slam champs from US on the men's side in the last 15 years. School sports is only good if US is the only country that competes in. For any pro sports competing internationally, for that matter soccer is the biggest worldwide, school sports is detrimental to player developments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCV will cease to exist in couple years.

My DD has never played there and has no intentions too. With that said just stop trolling already. It’s very obvious you have a huge grudge against the club and they didn’t put your DDs on the highest teams.

what grudge? Just stating an opinion whether you like it or not. Stop being a snowflake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism

You understand that it is actually rare that kids live at the academies. Most of the kids live their normal lives at home and go to the academies for training in the same manner as we take our kids.

In the same manner except that it is much cheaper and they do not have to fly in planes and stay in hotels a lot to learn the game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCV will cease to exist in couple years.

My DD has never played there and has no intentions too. With that said just stop trolling already. It’s very obvious you have a huge grudge against the club and they didn’t put your DDs on the highest teams.

what grudge? Just stating an opinion whether you like it or not. Stop being a snowflake.

Who the heck do you think plays soccer? Soccer is the snowflake sport (proud to say). This is not football or golf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism

You understand that it is actually rare that kids live at the academies. Most of the kids live their normal lives at home and go to the academies for training in the same manner as we take our kids.

You do realize that European kids play in tournaments that require flights across Europe too. Kids from England, Germany got to Spain or Italy to play in tournaments and kids in Spain, Portugal and Italy go to Germany, England, France etc.
In the same manner except that it is much cheaper and they do not have to fly in planes and stay in hotels a lot to learn the game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism

You understand that it is actually rare that kids live at the academies. Most of the kids live their normal lives at home and go to the academies for training in the same manner as we take our kids.

My point is that it's a complete immersion. School and Sport under contract with a high washout rate. Only those that can prove they can hang actually make it.

Completely different than pay to play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism

You understand that it is actually rare that kids live at the academies. Most of the kids live their normal lives at home and go to the academies for training in the same manner as we take our kids.

My point is that it's a complete immersion. School and Sport under contract with a high washout rate. Only those that can prove they can hang actually make it.

Completely different than pay to play.

Except you equate the barrier to entry to an academy to be the near equal of pay to play. A very small percentage of players make an academy and an even smaller percentage last more than two years at a pro academy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism

You understand that it is actually rare that kids live at the academies. Most of the kids live their normal lives at home and go to the academies for training in the same manner as we take our kids.

My point is that it's a complete immersion. School and Sport under contract with a high washout rate. Only those that can prove they can hang actually make it.

Completely different than pay to play.

Except you equate the barrier to entry to an academy to be the near equal of pay to play. A very small percentage of players make an academy and an even smaller percentage last more than two years at a pro academy.

Its doesn't matter. We have 50 times the playing population of many countries in the World CUP...and yet...we can't qualify in the weakest qualifications around. The numbers obviously doesn't matter.

Wake up.

[Anonymous]

From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And go broke doing it because no cheap options exist in America....

In Europe...its a national passion. Kids get club contracts and are developed in a manner that doesn't exist here. Complete immersion for a specific goal.

In America, we the parents, prop up the entire system. That's why you see the vultures circling.

We need real academies....much like boarding schools....invites into the academies after 8th grade via contracts.

From there, kids wash out when they show they can't hang.

No more nepotism

You understand that it is actually rare that kids live at the academies. Most of the kids live their normal lives at home and go to the academies for training in the same manner as we take our kids.

My point is that it's a complete immersion. School and Sport under contract with a high washout rate. Only those that can prove they can hang actually make it.

Completely different than pay to play.

Except you equate the barrier to entry to an academy to be the near equal of pay to play. A very small percentage of players make an academy and an even smaller percentage last more than two years at a pro academy.

Its doesn't matter. We have 50 times the playing population of many countries in the World CUP...and yet...we can't qualify in the weakest qualifications around. The numbers obviously doesn't matter.

Wake up.

And we tend to pick soccer players the way we would a football or basketball team while casting aside players with promise.

We look at the now with players and not down the road.

We believe we can teach the athlete foot skills later.

We think tactics can't be taught at young ages. We think standing in lines passing a ball back and forth teaches the game.

We think we can Americanize an established world sport based on our success in developing players for American sports that are mostly only played in America.

We truly believe that a kid can come into soccer at the age of 12 the way we did with football as a kid ourselves and make college or the pros. We believe school sports develop.

Those are much, much bigger problems than whether or not we have pay to play. Our biggest problem is our national arrogance and ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.

Thanks FCV dad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the LS FAQ website


"Loudoun Soccer has applied to join ECNL every year since 2012 – including 2017. It was denied every year."

LMFAO

Congratultions LS..everyone left...you can have it now.

Thanks FCV dad.

Not a FCV dad...don't insult me....like the paid staff at LS insulted you with that post...lmfao