Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:Heard said in a statement she is "heartbroken" over the verdict.

"The disappointment I feel today is beyond words. I'm heartbroken that the mountain of evidence still was not enough to stand up to the disproportionate power, influence, and sway of my ex-husband," Heard said.

That's her story and she's sticking to it! It was all because of Depp's sway, despite a "mountain of evidence." SMH.

She’s right and I’m heartbroken for her. Depp was abusive and she had every right to write her op Ed and share her experience with an abuser. That she is imperfect as a victim doesn’t negate his abuse. It also doesn’t mean she defamed him. Sad day for women but this is the direction our country is headed in so not a total surprise. Soon you’ll be able to beat and terrify women with impunity.

+1 sad day for women

Oh please.

This is a case where a woman who is desperate for fame saw the value of leveraging the me too movement for her own narcissistic goals. She too advantage of the “believe all women” stance to ruin a man for her own gain.

I have experienced SA myself and am disgusted by her.

She had proof. More than most. Regardless if you believe her, you do understand how this verdict will negatively impact victims? As a supposed survivor of SA, I’d think you’d have some empathy for them, but sounds like you want them to shut up and stay silent.

Most survivors aren’t photoshopping photos to try to make it look like she had injuries. Most aren’t claiming to have a broken nose and going on a TV show with no sign of injury. Putting herself out as a spokesperson for abused women offends me so, so much.

DP. I’ve had a broken nose that left me with nothing but the slightest hint of shadows under my eyes that were easily covered with concealer.

The next day? lol

I can barely get makeup to fully cover my acne scars. I’d really like to know what kind of makeup covers bruises from being punched in the face multiple times…. In HD no less.

According to Amber‘s lawyer, the kind that is released and produced after you allegedly use it

Oh FFS - she didn't say that specific makeup palette brand, she said A MAKEUP PALETTE and showed that one as an example. You psycho K---s will believe anything the internet tells you.

It's you who believes any cheap excuse you hear from your twisted sister.
"A make up palette" wasn't really mainstream at the time and if she was using the one that existed at the time, she would know the brand.

DP. I am not particularly make-up savvy, but have been using palettes since before my second child was born in 2011. I’m not sure why you think they would be such a foreign concept to an actress.

Are you talking about color correction kits? Which ones have you been using since before 2011?

I have zero recollection of the specific brands of make up I was using more than a decade ago.

No further questions.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone actually believe this woman? Shame on her!

+1000!!

What an insightful comment. Thank you for your thoughtful and nuanced contribution to the discussion.

Pot, meet kettle.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard said in a statement she is "heartbroken" over the verdict.

"The disappointment I feel today is beyond words. I'm heartbroken that the mountain of evidence still was not enough to stand up to the disproportionate power, influence, and sway of my ex-husband," Heard said.

That's her story and she's sticking to it! It was all because of Depp's sway, despite a "mountain of evidence." SMH.

She’s right and I’m heartbroken for her. Depp was abusive and she had every right to write her op Ed and share her experience with an abuser. That she is imperfect as a victim doesn’t negate his abuse. It also doesn’t mean she defamed him. Sad day for women but this is the direction our country is headed in so not a total surprise. Soon you’ll be able to beat and terrify women with impunity.

+1 sad day for women

Oh please.

This is a case where a woman who is desperate for fame saw the value of leveraging the me too movement for her own narcissistic goals. She too advantage of the “believe all women” stance to ruin a man for her own gain.

I have experienced SA myself and am disgusted by her.

She had proof. More than most. Regardless if you believe her, you do understand how this verdict will negatively impact victims? As a supposed survivor of SA, I’d think you’d have some empathy for them, but sounds like you want them to shut up and stay silent.

Most survivors aren’t photoshopping photos to try to make it look like she had injuries. Most aren’t claiming to have a broken nose and going on a TV show with no sign of injury. Putting herself out as a spokesperson for abused women offends me so, so much.

DP. I’ve had a broken nose that left me with nothing but the slightest hint of shadows under my eyes that were easily covered with concealer.

The next day? lol

I can barely get makeup to fully cover my acne scars. I’d really like to know what kind of makeup covers bruises from being punched in the face multiple times…. In HD no less.

According to Amber‘s lawyer, the kind that is released and produced after you allegedly use it

Oh FFS - she didn't say that specific makeup palette brand, she said A MAKEUP PALETTE and showed that one as an example. You psycho K---s will believe anything the internet tells you.

It's you who believes any cheap excuse you hear from your twisted sister.
"A make up palette" wasn't really mainstream at the time and if she was using the one that existed at the time, she would know the brand.

DP. I am not particularly make-up savvy, but have been using palettes since before my second child was born in 2011. I’m not sure why you think they would be such a foreign concept to an actress.

Are you talking about color correction kits? Which ones have you been using since before 2011?

I have zero recollection of the specific brands of make up I was using more than a decade ago.

No further questions.

I have no idea what you think you just proved.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG she wore the same dress to court today that she was wearing when she filed for her TRO and called TMZ on herself and at her last trial. She’s a certified psycho.

Is this satire?

Sadly, no. She made a specific post about it being important to wear the same dress the last time she wore it 2 years ago and now she’s wearing it again. Clearly she thought she would win. She’s just so obviously crazy.

I’m shocked she fit into it.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. That’s interesting! I didn’t read the op ed or anything but I definitely thought of JD as an abuser and addict/hot mess before the trial and while the trial hasn’t improved my opinion of him much, it’s definitely made me view AH as just as much of a hot mess and also culpable in the disaster that was their relationship.

I believe this is why JD went through with the trial, to just embarrass her and expose her crazy behavior like she did his. He doesn't want the money from her; he just wants to make sure her reputation is ruined now.

Which make both of them a**holes

Luckily that has nothing to do with the legal case.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG she wore the same dress to court today that she was wearing when she filed for her TRO and called TMZ on herself and at her last trial. She’s a certified psycho.

Is this satire?

Sadly, no. She made a specific post about it being important to wear the same dress the last time she wore it 2 years ago and now she’s wearing it again. Clearly she thought she would win. She’s just so obviously crazy.

I’m shocked she fit into it.

Her history with ED was documented in the nurses notes….

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Because they didn’t. So much evidence against Depp. Heard countered every gotcha moment the plaintiffs threw at her. This isn’t a case about who lied the most or at all. If it was, then every witness testimony would be questionable. This isn’t a DV case, although it certainly will influence the jurors. The jury must decide a few very simple line items:

1. Did Heard REPUBLISH the Op Ed with any edits changing the original WAPO Op Ed? No
2. Did the original OP Ed cause Depp to lose income and job offers? No, testimony on both sides provided evidence that Depp was a risk years prior to Op Ed
3. Did Depp file the defamation case in retaliation? Yes, “global humiliation”, “ruin her”, “karma should take the breath out of her body”, “set her corpse on fire and f**k her to make sure she’s dead”

If the jury decides no to 1 or 2, Depp loses. If the jury decides yes to 3, Depp loses. They then determine damages.

You forgot the most important fact: is he abusive? If she republished it AND are those 3 statements from article false, then…

If she didn’t republish the article with new info OR if he is an abuser, he loses.

Pp above you responding. Since it’s not a domestic violence case (as hard as this is to believe), they first must rule on the defamation suit— did the OP Ed do harm to Depp’s career. He didn’t file a DV suit against her, only a defamation suit. Then the jury proceeds from there. If they rule in favor of Depp, they’ll determine damages awarded to him. What happens after that, I just don’t know. Her counterclaim may circle the drain. Maybe an attorney can help here. If they rule against Depp’s defamation claim, then I think Heard will win the counterclaim that Depp intended to harm her emotionally, psychologically, and physically or he didn’t. If the former, she will be awarded damages. I don’t think this is gonna be a wash, and if the verdict is in fact happening today, this was a cut and dry case for the jury.

No, you’re incorrect. They do NOT first make a finding as to whether the piece harmed him. The reason is this: truth is an absolute defense to defamation. They don’t even get to harm and damages if the republishing of the article is true. Period, end of story. His case ends.

Well, this smugness worked out well for you.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG she wore the same dress to court today that she was wearing when she filed for her TRO and called TMZ on herself and at her last trial. She’s a certified psycho.

Is this satire?

Sadly, no. She made a specific post about it being important to wear the same dress the last time she wore it 2 years ago and now she’s wearing it again. Clearly she thought she would win. She’s just so obviously crazy.

I’m shocked she fit into it.

Her history with ED was documented in the nurses notes….

How is this relevant? She’s gained a significant amount of weight in the last two years. It’s surprising that what she wore two years ago when she was much thinner fits her heavier body.

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Anonymous wrote:Amber lied on the stand. She screwed herself over. An expert testified that some of her photos had been edited, or dates changed. Police officers testified that they saw no marks on her when she claimed to have been beaten. The make up that seemed to have worked miracles didn't exist when she claimed to have used it.

Where were the recordings of him being abusive? She recorded herself.

How could the jury believe anything she said?

Actually the jury found that she was telling the truth in the count where they ruled against Depp.

“ Heard, 36, also filed a countersuit against Depp, 58, seeking $100 million in damages and saying his legal team falsely accused her of fabricating claims against Depp. The jury awarded Heard $2 million in damages in that countersuit.”

So she didn’t lie but defamed him by speaking out. Not sure how anyone supporting this verdict can call themselves a feminist.

How can a feminist support a woman who recorded herself admitting to hitting her husband, mocking him and calling him names? If that's now feminism,count me out.

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Anonymous wrote:So if you approached this trial with a truly open mind, listened to all of the testimony, weighed the evidence presented by both sides and based on that came to the conclusion that you did not believe Ms. Heard you are discrediting ALL victims of DV?

Think that one through. I believe DV is a horrific crime. My heart hurts for any victim of it and I believe that anyone guilty of DV should be punished. That said, each case has to be faced without prejudice for our legal system to work. Every single victim of DV should be heard and they deserve justice, but not everyone who claims DV is telling the truth. That's a sad fact and, as I said, we can't presume anything--we have to weigh the facts of every single case, every single time.

I honestly don't understand how anyone could understand the legal issues at play, listen to this entire trial, come to the conclusion that Johnny Depp is a blameless victim, and not be a misogynist.

Because they didn’t. So much evidence against Depp. Heard countered every gotcha moment the plaintiffs threw at her. This isn’t a case about who lied the most or at all. If it was, then every witness testimony would be questionable. This isn’t a DV case, although it certainly will influence the jurors. The jury must decide a few very simple line items:

1. Did Heard REPUBLISH the Op Ed with any edits changing the original WAPO Op Ed? No
2. Did the original OP Ed cause Depp to lose income and job offers? No, testimony on both sides provided evidence that Depp was a risk years prior to Op Ed
3. Did Depp file the defamation case in retaliation? Yes, “global humiliation”, “ruin her”, “karma should take the breath out of her body”, “set her corpse on fire and f**k her to make sure she’s dead”

If the jury decides no to 1 or 2, Depp loses. If the jury decides yes to 3, Depp loses. They then determine damages.

You forgot the most important fact: is he abusive? If she republished it AND are those 3 statements from article false, then…

If she didn’t republish the article with new info OR if he is an abuser, he loses.

Pp above you responding. Since it’s not a domestic violence case (as hard as this is to believe), they first must rule on the defamation suit— did the OP Ed do harm to Depp’s career. He didn’t file a DV suit against her, only a defamation suit. Then the jury proceeds from there. If they rule in favor of Depp, they’ll determine damages awarded to him. What happens after that, I just don’t know. Her counterclaim may circle the drain. Maybe an attorney can help here. If they rule against Depp’s defamation claim, then I think Heard will win the counterclaim that Depp intended to harm her emotionally, psychologically, and physically or he didn’t. If the former, she will be awarded damages. I don’t think this is gonna be a wash, and if the verdict is in fact happening today, this was a cut and dry case for the jury.

No, you’re incorrect. They do NOT first make a finding as to whether the piece harmed him. The reason is this: truth is an absolute defense to defamation. They don’t even get to harm and damages if the republishing of the article is true. Period, end of story. His case ends.

Well, this smugness worked out well for you.

Lol. Where are all the legal beagles from the last 200 pages harping on there is no way to win a case? Jury’s are volatile. See Casey Anthony.

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Anonymous wrote:Here comes his $1

HAHAHAHAHA

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Anonymous wrote:Amber lied on the stand. She screwed herself over. An expert testified that some of her photos had been edited, or dates changed. Police officers testified that they saw no marks on her when she claimed to have been beaten. The make up that seemed to have worked miracles didn't exist when she claimed to have used it.

Where were the recordings of him being abusive? She recorded herself.

How could the jury believe anything she said?

Actually the jury found that she was telling the truth in the count where they ruled against Depp.

“ Heard, 36, also filed a countersuit against Depp, 58, seeking $100 million in damages and saying his legal team falsely accused her of fabricating claims against Depp. The jury awarded Heard $2 million in damages in that countersuit.”

So she didn’t lie but defamed him by speaking out. Not sure how anyone supporting this verdict can call themselves a feminist.

How can a feminist support a woman who recorded herself admitting to hitting her husband, mocking him and calling him names? If that's now feminism,count me out.

Hitting back in self-defense is anti-feminist? Huh, that’s new.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG she wore the same dress to court today that she was wearing when she filed for her TRO and called TMZ on herself and at her last trial. She’s a certified psycho.

Is this satire?

Sadly, no. She made a specific post about it being important to wear the same dress the last time she wore it 2 years ago and now she’s wearing it again. Clearly she thought she would win. She’s just so obviously crazy.

I’m shocked she fit into it.

Her history with ED was documented in the nurses notes….

How is this relevant? She’s gained a significant amount of weight in the last two years. It’s surprising that what she wore two years ago when she was much thinner fits her heavier body.

Maybe she hasn’t gained as much weight as you think she has.

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Is it true that she cannot discharge the judgment in bankruptcy?

They both should have won for $1 each.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG she wore the same dress to court today that she was wearing when she filed for her TRO and called TMZ on herself and at her last trial. She’s a certified psycho.

Is this satire?

Sadly, no. She made a specific post about it being important to wear the same dress the last time she wore it 2 years ago and now she’s wearing it again. Clearly she thought she would win. She’s just so obviously crazy.

I’m shocked she fit into it.

Her history with ED was documented in the nurses notes….

How is this relevant? She’s gained a significant amount of weight in the last two years. It’s surprising that what she wore two years ago when she was much thinner fits her heavier body.

Maybe she hasn’t gained as much weight as you think she has.

More likely she bought the dress in a larger size.