Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An older Barca team just had 2 players move to an SYA team 2 weeks ago. 2 starters at that

How is that legal?

As far as I know--you just can't move from one CCL team to a different one in playing year.

They weren't playing for a CCL team so I think it can happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An older Barca team just had 2 players move to an SYA team 2 weeks ago. 2 starters at that

How is that legal?

As far as I know--you just can't move from one CCL team to a different one in playing year.

They weren't playing for a CCL team so I think it can happen.

You can move between different leagues in season

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An older Barca team just had 2 players move to an SYA team 2 weeks ago. 2 starters at that

How is that legal?

As far as I know--you just can't move from one CCL team to a different one in playing year.

They weren't playing for a CCL team so I think it can happen.

You can move between different leagues in season

Yea. That's what I was trying to say.

They couldn't move from a CCL team to a different CCL team, but the transfer from NCSL team to CCL, for example is allowed.

[Anonymous]

Are there any restrictions going from one NCSL team to another NCSL team between fall and spring seasons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there any restrictions going from one NCSL team to another NCSL team between fall and spring seasons?

from vysa...

The maximum number of players a team can have on its roster is 18. During the seasonal year, no more than three carded players from another registered traveling team may be transferred to the roster. Any number of uncarded players may be added to the roster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny because of the successful SYA teams In the CCL I give a lot of props! In that area there are more than a few clubs pulling from there

This is could be one of the worst sentences (or two). I know it has a punctuation mark in the middle but I have no idea what the fuck their point is. : )

Let's eat, Grandma.

Let's eat Grandma.

Punctuation can kill.

Or;

Grandma, let's eat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there any restrictions going from one NCSL team to another NCSL team between fall and spring seasons?

Yes. It's pretty limited. Check rule book here: http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/rules-procedures/index_E.html

I had thought a team could release a player so he could join another team, but that doesn't appear to be the case once the season has started.

(In WAGS, a team could release a player and that player could join another club . . . )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any restrictions going from one NCSL team to another NCSL team between fall and spring seasons?

Yes. It's pretty limited. Check rule book here: http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/rules-procedures/index_E.html

I had thought a team could release a player so he could join another team, but that doesn't appear to be the case once the season has started.

(In WAGS, a team could release a player and that player could join another club . . . )

So this is what the rules state:

Player Transfers
A player wishing to transfer or multi-roster onto the Official State Roster of another NCSL team after the
season start date (listed on the NCSL Calendar of Events) and retain eligibility for league play must fit
into one of the following categories:
- The releasing team, or primary team, is not registered to participate in the NCSL for the current
season.
- The player’s release was completed, with required registrar approvals, prior to the season start
date (league participation of the releasing team does not matter in this case.)
Players that transfer or multi-roster after the season start date that do not fit into one of the above
categories, are not eligible for league play (but may be eligible as a club pass player, for State Cup, or for
tournaments).
No more than five transfer players on the Official State Roster are eligible for league play per year.

So it seems quite easy to transfer between fall and spring seasons. It just has to be done before the spring season starts. Correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any restrictions going from one NCSL team to another NCSL team between fall and spring seasons?

Yes. It's pretty limited. Check rule book here: http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/rules-procedures/index_E.html

I had thought a team could release a player so he could join another team, but that doesn't appear to be the case once the season has started.

(In WAGS, a team could release a player and that player could join another club . . . )

So this is what the rules state:

Player Transfers
A player wishing to transfer or multi-roster onto the Official State Roster of another NCSL team after the
season start date (listed on the NCSL Calendar of Events) and retain eligibility for league play must fit
into one of the following categories:
- The releasing team, or primary team, is not registered to participate in the NCSL for the current
season.
- The player’s release was completed, with required registrar approvals, prior to the season start
date (league participation of the releasing team does not matter in this case.)
Players that transfer or multi-roster after the season start date that do not fit into one of the above
categories, are not eligible for league play (but may be eligible as a club pass player, for State Cup, or for
tournaments).
No more than five transfer players on the Official State Roster are eligible for league play per year.

So it seems quite easy to transfer between fall and spring seasons. It just has to be done before the spring season starts. Correct?

Correct -- a player can be released by an NCSL team at any point, but cannot join another NCSL team until after the fall season ends. Once the season starts, a player is locked into the team they are rostered to, unless they change leagues.

WAGS was the same way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any restrictions going from one NCSL team to another NCSL team between fall and spring seasons?

Yes. It's pretty limited. Check rule book here: http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/rules-procedures/index_E.html

I had thought a team could release a player so he could join another team, but that doesn't appear to be the case once the season has started.

(In WAGS, a team could release a player and that player could join another club . . . )

So this is what the rules state:

Player Transfers
A player wishing to transfer or multi-roster onto the Official State Roster of another NCSL team after the
season start date (listed on the NCSL Calendar of Events) and retain eligibility for league play must fit
into one of the following categories:
- The releasing team, or primary team, is not registered to participate in the NCSL for the current
season.
- The player’s release was completed, with required registrar approvals, prior to the season start
date (league participation of the releasing team does not matter in this case.)
Players that transfer or multi-roster after the season start date that do not fit into one of the above
categories, are not eligible for league play (but may be eligible as a club pass player, for State Cup, or for
tournaments).
No more than five transfer players on the Official State Roster are eligible for league play per year.

So it seems quite easy to transfer between fall and spring seasons. It just has to be done before the spring season starts. Correct?

Correct -- a player can be released by an NCSL team at any point, but cannot join another NCSL team until after the fall season ends. Once the season starts, a player is locked into the team they are rostered to, unless they change leagues.

WAGS was the same way.

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
WAGS was the same way.

Ahh . . . sorry, I was reading "season" to mean both Fall and Spring. In WAGS we had a player transfer over the winter - didn't seem like an issue (was happy to see her go). Makes sense that the transfer can happen between fall and spring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
WAGS was the same way.

Ahh . . . sorry, I was reading "season" to mean both Fall and Spring. In WAGS we had a player transfer over the winter - didn't seem like an issue (was happy to see her go). Makes sense that the transfer can happen between fall and spring.

Right, WAGS/NCSL have distinct fall and spring "seasons" so there can be movement in between. The CCL has a 10-month "season" so a player can't move to another CCL club until after the season is over in June (but could move to a club outside of CCL any time). I don't know which model VPL/NPL follows.

[Anonymous]

Fun Fact of the Day: Only 6 of the 24 teams who clenched a semi-final spot in the Va State Cup thus far are non-CCL teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fun Fact of the Day: Only 6 of the 24 teams who clenched a semi-final spot in the Va State Cup thus far are non-CCL teams.

cmon mannnnn not this again. *cough*im pro CCL*cough*. Let's not get this started again. Besides DA teams don't compete in the state cup

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Look for somewhere in the early years that is smaller and more focused on development not winning."

I think we hashed this out that it's nearly impossible. We discussed how all clubs have good and bad teams with some good coaches and some bad coaches. You can go to a small club and find that it sucks. You can go to a big club and find that it sucks. Often it's luck. This statement is so easy to say but who has time to watch 3 practices and 3 games of each U-whatever team at Loudoun, Herndon, McLean, SYA, BRYC, Arlington, Vienna, FPYC, Reston, CYA, Alexandria, etc to determine if that team is right for their kid? I mean everyone says...do the research, but it's not that easy. More often than not, it's luck.

It's not that difficult. People just become complacent. They bitch and complain, but doing nothing about it. Change isn't easy for the average person. Just a fact of life.

Exactly.

I mean -- people in Vienna should have anticipated that the technical staff would split off to Arlington and Chantilly -- CYA, not CSC, where a bunch of kids moved onto a team but then found the whole team was going to Reston, unlike the other CSC team that went to SYA to join a CCL club without being a CCL team, while Reston developed a nice style of play even though a lot of its good players would wind up in McLean or Herndon -- and replaced them with an English guy and a guy who had previously coached at McLean, where he favored athleticism over soccer skill, as was the style at the time at McLean but might not be now that they've changed boys' technical directors again in an effort to stay ahead of BRYC, which has brought in a bunch of players from PAC, many of whom were initially at Arlington or Vienna and opted for PAC over Great Falls, which now has a deal with Bethesda South and Sterling, which would seem to leave little place for Cugini, but Cugini keeps plugging along while SYC -- which, now that the Vienna staff has changed over, might be the area's biggest proponent of the "academy" model of training all its teams in one place -- produces the occasional good team.

I mean, what about that isn't obvious?

How do you know all this stuff?!