Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:It's so obvious from his tone that when he said "It smells good" about her fake tan he means "[Well, at least] it smells good." Like, if your fake tanner is going to get all over me, oh well, at least it smells good, what can ya do?

You have to remember that Blake views everything through the lens where she is the Hottest Woman on Earth and she is irresistible to all men.

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I wonder how much “harvey girl “ gets paid to post?

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Anonymous wrote:I tend to think it's normal for them to drift in and out of character during scenes where they know the audio will be replaced by music in the final cut. Lively wanted to talk because she thought it would look more romantic onscreen and the audience would wonder what they were saying. That's fine. Also fine to do it the other way. Adding kissing and touching to a slow dancing is also within the realm of appropriate ways to stage the scene, even if the script originally didn't include those things.

As someone who had supported Lively in the past, it's just hard to argue she's not being completely disingenuous here. In fact if it were reversed (with him arguing that talking was more romantic and saying he and his wife would stay up talking for hours, and it's more than cute, and talking about Blake's nose) I'm pretty sure she would categorize those things in her complaint as inappropriate harassment.

She'd better hope this was his strongest evidence and the rest is less compelling.

I dont think she wanted to talk because she thought it was more romantic, she was using that as an excuse to try to get him to stop kissing her and nuzzling her neck and whatnot. To instead look like they were talking….so he would be occupied differently and back off the intimacy that was making her uncomfortable.

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Anonymous wrote:Just because she did sex scenes in the past doesn't make she can't be sexually harassed! I don't think she's being harassed in the clip, but that's based on watching the clip, not her onscreen and offscreen sexual history. So gross.

What? Where did anyone say that? I was simply saying she hasn’t done sex scenes since meeting Ryan because he’s a control freak.

At no point did I or anyone say her lack of past sex scenes means she can’t be sexually harassed.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you could argue that when the director is one of the actors involved in a scene with intimacy, they should have an IC on set because it creates a weird dynamic. Especially in a situation like this where the director is playing a guy who turns out to be abusive.

I think, watching this, that the lines between Baldoni the director, Baldoni the actor, and Ryle the character, are getting crossed in ways that could be confusing or upsetting for his costar.

That doesn't mean I think he's a harasser. I don't. But I think the situation could have been handled better by the studio and by Baldoni himself, as they were in charge of the production.

The issue here is they are supposed to be acting a scene as characters in love and she doesn't want to stay in character by either staying silent as instructed, or just improvising some light in character dialogue. The talking muddled the boundaries so now instead of Lily and Ryle touching it's Blake and Justin touching. It's awkward.

We never see Baldoni say "let's do this in character" or "I want to improvise in character even though we aren't doing audio" though. He says he "was told" by others that he needed to get her to stop talking. Why doesn't he just say "Blake, we need a take without us talking, let's just act it out without words"? I see the part at the beginning where she's talking about how she likes the idea of them talking during this scene because that's how she and her husband fell in love, but Baldoni is passive about it. He just kind of ignores her and is like touching her face and nuzzling her. Why isn't he more direct about it?

His approach to directing in that scene was annoying to me. He won't just say "this is what I want" and he also doesn't try to find a diplomatic solution ("we'll do one take talking and one without, so we have both options"). Instead he's kind of passive aggressive, not giving Lively specific direction but just kind of trying to override her by playing the scene totally differently than what she's suggesting. It *is* awkward but I feel like the awkwardness is on Baldoni, who is the director and could have taken more control of the scene and done a better job communicating to his costar.

What? They are filming a scene, why would he have to say, “let’s do this in character”? They are supposed to be in character! Anytime he is kissing her, they are in character. He does give direction. Doesn’t he say something like “let’s do this” before she lifts her hair and he kisses her neck? And don’t they talk about almost kissing before they start to kiss and then pull away?

They are in and out of character. Not in character the whole time. He says in his complaint he was trying to get her to stop talking. Why didn't he just say, "I want to do a take without talking"? Or suggest they do a take where they are in character the whole time (in which case he would also not break character) including talking in character as Lily and Ryle? He complains that she was trying to control the scene but I don't see him trying to control it. I see him being passive aggressive about it, getting annoyed that she's not doing what he wants even though he is not being clear about it.

I just see them being on two totally different wavelengths and as the director, it was within his power to fix that. Instead he just kind of acts annoyed the whole time (also not in character! Ryle is not annoyed with Lily in that scene) but never comes out and says "Thank you for your input but I want to do this so that we can get this specific shot." Which would be within his right to say as the director.

I think Baldoni was intimidated by Lively and handled it by being passive-aggressive, which annoyed her and sometimes came off as him being inappropriate.

Why are you still here with your crazy takes? You told us you were leaving in a huff just a few pages ago, claiming we were all women haters. And don’t try to say that wasn’t you, it clearly was. Your writing style and “take” give you away.

Who cares? If their takes are so bad, refute them. They have the right to post like anyone else and at least they are not being disrespectful like the Harvey girl and Jewish nose posters.

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Anonymous wrote:Just because she did sex scenes in the past doesn't make she can't be sexually harassed! I don't think she's being harassed in the clip, but that's based on watching the clip, not her onscreen and offscreen sexual history. So gross.

What? Where did anyone say that? I was simply saying she hasn’t done sex scenes since meeting Ryan because he’s a control freak.

At no point did I or anyone say her lack of past sex scenes means she can’t be sexually harassed.

"She previously has done at least one raunchy sex scene in The Town where she and Ben Affleck were acting out vigorous sex. And now she is offended by dancing and staring romantically? "

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One of the funniest details about this whole thing is that the line is “it smells good.”

This is what Justin clearly says on tape. If I recall from her claims, she’s not even trying to say he said anything different. If she is, she’s blatantly lying, but I feel like she reported him saying it smells good. (Which is what he said.)

I can’t imagine anyone trying to seduce another person or be remotely sexual with the phrase “It smells good.” You would say you smell good.

Just another reason why this whole thing is so utterly dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Just because she did sex scenes in the past doesn't make she can't be sexually harassed! I don't think she's being harassed in the clip, but that's based on watching the clip, not her onscreen and offscreen sexual history. So gross.

What? Where did anyone say that? I was simply saying she hasn’t done sex scenes since meeting Ryan because he’s a control freak.

At no point did I or anyone say her lack of past sex scenes means she can’t be sexually harassed.

"She previously has done at least one raunchy sex scene in The Town where she and Ben Affleck were acting out vigorous sex. And now she is offended by dancing and staring romantically? "

Oh, well, I didn’t say that. I was just saying she doesn’t do sex scenes because of Ryan. Carry-on.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you could argue that when the director is one of the actors involved in a scene with intimacy, they should have an IC on set because it creates a weird dynamic. Especially in a situation like this where the director is playing a guy who turns out to be abusive.

I think, watching this, that the lines between Baldoni the director, Baldoni the actor, and Ryle the character, are getting crossed in ways that could be confusing or upsetting for his costar.

That doesn't mean I think he's a harasser. I don't. But I think the situation could have been handled better by the studio and by Baldoni himself, as they were in charge of the production.

The issue here is they are supposed to be acting a scene as characters in love and she doesn't want to stay in character by either staying silent as instructed, or just improvising some light in character dialogue. The talking muddled the boundaries so now instead of Lily and Ryle touching it's Blake and Justin touching. It's awkward.

We never see Baldoni say "let's do this in character" or "I want to improvise in character even though we aren't doing audio" though. He says he "was told" by others that he needed to get her to stop talking. Why doesn't he just say "Blake, we need a take without us talking, let's just act it out without words"? I see the part at the beginning where she's talking about how she likes the idea of them talking during this scene because that's how she and her husband fell in love, but Baldoni is passive about it. He just kind of ignores her and is like touching her face and nuzzling her. Why isn't he more direct about it?

His approach to directing in that scene was annoying to me. He won't just say "this is what I want" and he also doesn't try to find a diplomatic solution ("we'll do one take talking and one without, so we have both options"). Instead he's kind of passive aggressive, not giving Lively specific direction but just kind of trying to override her by playing the scene totally differently than what she's suggesting. It *is* awkward but I feel like the awkwardness is on Baldoni, who is the director and could have taken more control of the scene and done a better job communicating to his costar.

What? They are filming a scene, why would he have to say, “let’s do this in character”? They are supposed to be in character! Anytime he is kissing her, they are in character. He does give direction. Doesn’t he say something like “let’s do this” before she lifts her hair and he kisses her neck? And don’t they talk about almost kissing before they start to kiss and then pull away?

They are in and out of character. Not in character the whole time. He says in his complaint he was trying to get her to stop talking. Why didn't he just say, "I want to do a take without talking"? Or suggest they do a take where they are in character the whole time (in which case he would also not break character) including talking in character as Lily and Ryle? He complains that she was trying to control the scene but I don't see him trying to control it. I see him being passive aggressive about it, getting annoyed that she's not doing what he wants even though he is not being clear about it.

I just see them being on two totally different wavelengths and as the director, it was within his power to fix that. Instead he just kind of acts annoyed the whole time (also not in character! Ryle is not annoyed with Lily in that scene) but never comes out and says "Thank you for your input but I want to do this so that we can get this specific shot." Which would be within his right to say as the director.

I think Baldoni was intimidated by Lively and handled it by being passive-aggressive, which annoyed her and sometimes came off as him being inappropriate.

He was actually being too accommodating. He was the director and therefore had the final say, but he was entertaining her chatter about the lighting and whether they should talk. He could have been a lot firmer about it and basically said tough crap, I'm the boss.

This.

But she's an executive producer, and it's unclear who had the power here, as producers have a lot of power and at times more than the director. I read somewhere that RR's Deadpool (3?) director quit for the same reasons, and then RR took over. Also, there are other directors helping with this scene offset, too. I think it was probably just a power struggle all along. People are saying she is uncomfortable with kissing; but she could just be annoyed she's not getting her way about the talking. Maybe she simply wants this to be a scene where they're connecting by talking like her and RR; and he wants it to be a sexy scene where they are drawn to each other physically. But who the F knows. Given that we can't decide, how he's supposed to know is beyond me.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you could argue that when the director is one of the actors involved in a scene with intimacy, they should have an IC on set because it creates a weird dynamic. Especially in a situation like this where the director is playing a guy who turns out to be abusive.

I think, watching this, that the lines between Baldoni the director, Baldoni the actor, and Ryle the character, are getting crossed in ways that could be confusing or upsetting for his costar.

That doesn't mean I think he's a harasser. I don't. But I think the situation could have been handled better by the studio and by Baldoni himself, as they were in charge of the production.

The issue here is they are supposed to be acting a scene as characters in love and she doesn't want to stay in character by either staying silent as instructed, or just improvising some light in character dialogue. The talking muddled the boundaries so now instead of Lily and Ryle touching it's Blake and Justin touching. It's awkward.

We never see Baldoni say "let's do this in character" or "I want to improvise in character even though we aren't doing audio" though. He says he "was told" by others that he needed to get her to stop talking. Why doesn't he just say "Blake, we need a take without us talking, let's just act it out without words"? I see the part at the beginning where she's talking about how she likes the idea of them talking during this scene because that's how she and her husband fell in love, but Baldoni is passive about it. He just kind of ignores her and is like touching her face and nuzzling her. Why isn't he more direct about it?

His approach to directing in that scene was annoying to me. He won't just say "this is what I want" and he also doesn't try to find a diplomatic solution ("we'll do one take talking and one without, so we have both options"). Instead he's kind of passive aggressive, not giving Lively specific direction but just kind of trying to override her by playing the scene totally differently than what she's suggesting. It *is* awkward but I feel like the awkwardness is on Baldoni, who is the director and could have taken more control of the scene and done a better job communicating to his costar.

What? They are filming a scene, why would he have to say, “let’s do this in character”? They are supposed to be in character! Anytime he is kissing her, they are in character. He does give direction. Doesn’t he say something like “let’s do this” before she lifts her hair and he kisses her neck? And don’t they talk about almost kissing before they start to kiss and then pull away?

They are in and out of character. Not in character the whole time. He says in his complaint he was trying to get her to stop talking. Why didn't he just say, "I want to do a take without talking"? Or suggest they do a take where they are in character the whole time (in which case he would also not break character) including talking in character as Lily and Ryle? He complains that she was trying to control the scene but I don't see him trying to control it. I see him being passive aggressive about it, getting annoyed that she's not doing what he wants even though he is not being clear about it.

I just see them being on two totally different wavelengths and as the director, it was within his power to fix that. Instead he just kind of acts annoyed the whole time (also not in character! Ryle is not annoyed with Lily in that scene) but never comes out and says "Thank you for your input but I want to do this so that we can get this specific shot." Which would be within his right to say as the director.

I think Baldoni was intimidated by Lively and handled it by being passive-aggressive, which annoyed her and sometimes came off as him being inappropriate.

Why are you still here with your crazy takes? You told us you were leaving in a huff just a few pages ago, claiming we were all women haters. And don’t try to say that wasn’t you, it clearly was. Your writing style and “take” give you away.

That wasn't me, there is more than one poster who disagrees with you.

If you don't believe me, go ask Jeff. It is weird that anytime someone posts something you disagree with, you assume it's the same person.

It is the fact that your posts are genuinely and completely out of touch with reality, and your writing style is very distinctive. I don’t need to ask Jeff, it’s completely obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:I tend to think it's normal for them to drift in and out of character during scenes where they know the audio will be replaced by music in the final cut. Lively wanted to talk because she thought it would look more romantic onscreen and the audience would wonder what they were saying. That's fine. Also fine to do it the other way. Adding kissing and touching to a slow dancing is also within the realm of appropriate ways to stage the scene, even if the script originally didn't include those things.

As someone who had supported Lively in the past, it's just hard to argue she's not being completely disingenuous here. In fact if it were reversed (with him arguing that talking was more romantic and saying he and his wife would stay up talking for hours, and it's more than cute, and talking about Blake's nose) I'm pretty sure she would categorize those things in her complaint as inappropriate harassment.

She'd better hope this was his strongest evidence and the rest is less compelling.

I dont think she wanted to talk because she thought it was more romantic, she was using that as an excuse to try to get him to stop kissing her and nuzzling her neck and whatnot. To instead look like they were talking….so he would be occupied differently and back off the intimacy that was making her uncomfortable.

No, that’s not right. She was clearly trying to direct the scene from the beginning. She wanted them to talk and he thought that this would be a non-verbal scene since they weren’t going to have audio and it was going to be slow dancing.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the funniest details about this whole thing is that the line is “it smells good.”

This is what Justin clearly says on tape. If I recall from her claims, she’s not even trying to say he said anything different. If she is, she’s blatantly lying, but I feel like she reported him saying it smells good. (Which is what he said.)

I can’t imagine anyone trying to seduce another person or be remotely sexual with the phrase “It smells good.” You would say you smell good.

Just another reason why this whole thing is so utterly dumb.

I think it's the way he said it. He's nuzzling her arm and he says it the way you'd tell someone you were dating that they smell good. He doesn't say it like "oh don't worry about it, at least it smells good" which is the way she was talking about it.

In any case, her complaint accurately describes what is shown in the footage he released. Her perspective might be different than his, but she didn't make anything up.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the funniest details about this whole thing is that the line is “it smells good.”

This is what Justin clearly says on tape. If I recall from her claims, she’s not even trying to say he said anything different. If she is, she’s blatantly lying, but I feel like she reported him saying it smells good. (Which is what he said.)

I can’t imagine anyone trying to seduce another person or be remotely sexual with the phrase “It smells good.” You would say you smell good.

Just another reason why this whole thing is so utterly dumb.

She mischaracterized it to make him sound creepy af, and when you watch it, you see that he is saying it in response to something she said about spray tan and sounds like a normal person. I agree it’s dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the funniest details about this whole thing is that the line is “it smells good.”

This is what Justin clearly says on tape. If I recall from her claims, she’s not even trying to say he said anything different. If she is, she’s blatantly lying, but I feel like she reported him saying it smells good. (Which is what he said.)

I can’t imagine anyone trying to seduce another person or be remotely sexual with the phrase “It smells good.” You would say you smell good.

Just another reason why this whole thing is so utterly dumb.

She said he dragged his lips along her neck and said, "It smells so good." (emphasis added). Which is a much creepier way of describing what happened, which was: Him: "Sorry for my beard." Her: "Sorry for my body makeup." Him: Nonchalantly: "It smells good."

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Anonymous wrote:I tend to think it's normal for them to drift in and out of character during scenes where they know the audio will be replaced by music in the final cut. Lively wanted to talk because she thought it would look more romantic onscreen and the audience would wonder what they were saying. That's fine. Also fine to do it the other way. Adding kissing and touching to a slow dancing is also within the realm of appropriate ways to stage the scene, even if the script originally didn't include those things.

As someone who had supported Lively in the past, it's just hard to argue she's not being completely disingenuous here. In fact if it were reversed (with him arguing that talking was more romantic and saying he and his wife would stay up talking for hours, and it's more than cute, and talking about Blake's nose) I'm pretty sure she would categorize those things in her complaint as inappropriate harassment.

She'd better hope this was his strongest evidence and the rest is less compelling.

I dont think she wanted to talk because she thought it was more romantic, she was using that as an excuse to try to get him to stop kissing her and nuzzling her neck and whatnot. To instead look like they were talking….so he would be occupied differently and back off the intimacy that was making her uncomfortable.

But she stated several times her reasoning was romance. Part of establishing sexual harassment is making it known the conduct is unwelcome. Kissing during slow dance is an artistic decision and so is saying it's more romantic to talk. I know it's hard to speak up but people can't be expected to read her mind.