Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what are the odds there are still some killers on the loose and in our midst? Have the police given any indication whether people should be on alert?

I'd say it's 100% there are some killers on the lose and in our midst. But it's about 90% that there's at least one killer related to this incident still at large. However, I bet they're pretty battened down right now and not looking to do anything that will get them noticed.

[Anonymous]

DC Code § 22-1806:

"Whoever shall be convicted of being an accessory after the fact to any crime punishable by death shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 20 years. Whoever shall be convicted of being accessory after the fact to any crime punishable by imprisonment shall be punished by a fine or imprisonment, or both, as the case may be, not more than 1/2 the maximum fine or imprisonment, or both, to which the principal offender may be subjected."

- This is inherently a little ambiguous in that DC has not had a death penalty since 1981 (last person executed was 1957). However, setting aside that first sentence, an accessory after the fact is subject to 1/2 the penalty of the principal. In other words, it is a felony punishable by big prison time.

- To establish "accessory after the fact," state must show that accessory acted personally to aid/assist felon to avoid detection or apprehension. My guess is that evidence at this time is ambiguous and that everyone in the car/truck said, "we are taking him to surrender."

[Anonymous]

AC Cowlings was driving OJ away from the cops, so he couldn't credibly make this claim. (Even though he was going 32 mph).

[Anonymous]

Everyone involved deserves to be burned alive. eye for an eye

[Anonymous]

Is it possible the assistant took some of the money? Why in the hell would he take a picture of the money???? Being told to put it in the garage didn't seem odd to him? This is so strange.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read that there is a red car missing from the house - the same one, presumably, that the assistant put the money in.

Really? Then why aren't they telling the public to be on the lookout for it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what are the odds there are still some killers on the loose and in our midst? Have the police given any indication whether people should be on alert?

I'd say it's 100% there are some killers on the lose and in our midst. But it's about 90% that there's at least one killer related to this incident still at large. However, I bet they're pretty battened down right now and not looking to do anything that will get them noticed.

yes, because they're thinking so rationally and of course think just like the posters on DCUM.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:I just read that there is a red car missing from the house - the same one, presumably, that the assistant put the money in.

I am pretty sure that this is the red car in which the money was placed:



and I am also pretty sure that car is still there. There can't be more than a handful of those cars in the US. It's a Mosler MT900.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The assistant admitted lying to the police about when to get and where to leave the package. Why would they do this?

Assistant sent a text to a friend of the stack of cash he was to transport.

if true, this is really strange. if I was involved in a case where my boss and his family was murdered in such a way, I would make sure I would tell the entire trutch right away, if anything to protect myself and make sure I don't become a suspect. plus, why lying? leaving the money inside the garage inside a car makes much more sense and is more believable than leaving it on the steps. if my boss asked me to leave it in the car in the garage I could believe that he needs it quickly but that he may out of the house when I get there. if he asked me to leave $40,000 on outside of the door steps from the sidewalk I would wonder what the heck is going on.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the charging docs. I don't think they mean the boy was burned alive (at least not purposely). I think the intent was to kill everyone and then douse them all with gasoline and burn them and any evidence. But they were in separate rooms and the fire started in the child' bedroom and then didn't fully ignite the other room. It is clear that the other three were killed by trauma because their bodies were never consumed in flame. The child is unclear at best, but likely also beat (please, god quickly) and dead or nearly so (i.e. unconscious) when fire started.

I'd like to think he was in the other room, his bedroom, in bed out of kindness. They were letting the kid lie down.

Out of kindness? It would be nice to believe that, but I don't. Phillip's cause of death was thermal injuries: BURNS and sharp force injuries: STAB wounds. No kindness involved. It was sick, sadistic behavior. How horrifying for his family to have to know these details.

Exactly. And separated from his parents while all of this was going on?

PP, I'm sorry, but how dare you use the word "kindness" in any sentence or paragraph referring to these animals that killed him.

I would like to think that it wasn't complete hell for this little boy, that he got to lie down and sleep for some of it. How dare me not want it to have been 15 hours of pain and agony and desperate fear?

I am like you pp. Before I read that the little boy was still alive at the time of the fire, I fantasied that the perps gave him something strong to sleep and then cut his throat or while he was sleeping so he wouldn't have to go through that one last fear of seeing someone coming at you with a knife and knowing you are going to die.

But it seems he was not only still alive at the time of the fire which is horrible in itself, but he heard his parents being murdered brutally.

You just don't get it, do you?

There really is evil in the world. Why is that so hard for some people to swallow?

[Anonymous]

The red car I saw pictured previously next to a white Range Rover was an Audi.

There was another red car?

[Anonymous]

Does anyone think the assistant was involved in any way? They did post a lot of SS things on their Instagram page.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think the assistant was involved in any way? They did post a lot of SS things on their Instagram page.

maybe enough to draw attention from the wrong sorts

[Anonymous]

Just read the charging documents. Apparently, DW was arrested in March for receiving stolen property and gave his brother's name. I would feel a lot better if they could figure out how many people were involved and got them in custody also.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the charging docs. I don't think they mean the boy was burned alive (at least not purposely). I think the intent was to kill everyone and then douse them all with gasoline and burn them and any evidence. But they were in separate rooms and the fire started in the child' bedroom and then didn't fully ignite the other room. It is clear that the other three were killed by trauma because their bodies were never consumed in flame. The child is unclear at best, but likely also beat (please, god quickly) and dead or nearly so (i.e. unconscious) when fire started.

I'd like to think he was in the other room, his bedroom, in bed out of kindness. They were letting the kid lie down.

Out of kindness? It would be nice to believe that, but I don't. Phillip's cause of death was thermal injuries: BURNS and sharp force injuries: STAB wounds. No kindness involved. It was sick, sadistic behavior. How horrifying for his family to have to know these details.

Exactly. And separated from his parents while all of this was going on?

PP, I'm sorry, but how dare you use the word "kindness" in any sentence or paragraph referring to these animals that killed him.

I would like to think that it wasn't complete hell for this little boy, that he got to lie down and sleep for some of it. How dare me not want it to have been 15 hours of pain and agony and desperate fear?

I am like you pp. Before I read that the little boy was still alive at the time of the fire, I fantasied that the perps gave him something strong to sleep and then cut his throat or while he was sleeping so he wouldn't have to go through that one last fear of seeing someone coming at you with a knife and knowing you are going to die.

But it seems he was not only still alive at the time of the fire which is horrible in itself, but he heard his parents being murdered brutally.

You just don't get it, do you?

There really is evil in the world. Why is that so hard for some people to swallow?

I doubt that, in the end, the child was hearing what was happening to his parents. My strong suspicion is that it was the other way around.