Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Not every kid plays high school football with the notion that they are going to play in college or go pro. They just want to be on a team. To learn hard work, discipline, how to be part of a team, how to handle wins and losses, etc. And even if their team sucks, they don't give up. They play with integrity. This whole Freefield/Hayfraud mentality of if you don't win like we do , you suck and should just give up, is real loser mentality. At the end of it all, they may be leaving each game with the scoreboard highly tipped in their favor, but they are the real losers with their attitude and mentality.

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Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

this is what is needed in every sport....teaching and actual coaching. that is lost in this area.

[Anonymous]

Overton for Coach of the Year!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

He’s not running that type of program. He’s getting kids into college. A kid can develop in his program, but if he’s developing, he shouldn’t expect to start over kids that are making each other better and helping the program fulfill their goals.

What I say is true if you talk about Madison, Battlefield, Champe or any of the better football programs.

This isnt the 80’s, the kids that are serious are training heavily in the offseason.

No, the kids are getting themselves into college on the basis of their ability and efforts. Overton is just taking credit for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I might be late to the game on this one but now I’m reading in other spots that hayfield’s best player is facing fun charges. Any truth to this?

Source?

Two - Hayfield kids themselves and football message boards. Here’s one;

https://virginiapreps.forums.rivals.com/threads/hayfield-back-in-the-news.82810/

Scroll down about 6-7 comments.

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Anonymous wrote:Overton for Coach of the Year!

Funniest thing I’ve read in this thread.

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This thread started with Hayfield asst coach offering drugs to a student and is now almost entirely discussing rules violations charges. Obviously post whatever want, but if Hayfield beats anyone in future or loses, it has no relevance. If they had lost to Edison, the violations stand to be addressed.
It’s all relevant. It was a hit piece based on some volunteer coach that had a minimal role in Hayfields program got in trouble and that guy was immediately fired.

Langley had a football coach and teacher do far worse this fall and got nowhere near the hate Hayfield is getting. There is an obvious element of racism here.

As soon as someone mentions positivity, the haters come around talking about lies and unproven allegations. Even a judge in the seat of the confederacy said this sounds like some bs, but I’ll give you more of an opportunity to plead you case on December 4th.

As of now, Hayfield is still playing football and some of us that support local sports are still spectating and watching to see if Hayfield, Madison, W&L, or Patriot can bring the 6A trophy back up to NOVA.

Many of these idiots actually wanted Robinson to respresent us in the playoffs instead of Hayfield. Robinson wasn’t coming out of the region. Robinson didn’t help our chances of getting the trophy here to NOVA, but Hayfield does.

Wish these people would channel that racist energy somewhere else and let the kids play football.

I did not know or assume any of these people were black until I came to this thread and saw the word "racist" being hurled about. I haven't seen Freedom or Hayfield play and have never seen a picture of the coach. My son, a high school football player, told me that all the Freedom players changed their documentary name to Freedom during the summer. He told me that something crazy was going on and all the players from Freedom were moving to Hayfield and weren't even bothering to hide what they were doing. He and all the other kids on his team have been following this and think the whole thing is outrageous. There was relief and a sense of "this is fair and justice has been served" when Hayfield was banned and then "WTH" and "BS" when Hayfield was allowed to play again. But these kids are used to people in FCPS admin doing what is best for themselves and not the kids.

Just like the country

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Overton for Coach of the Year!

Funniest thing I’ve read in this thread.

He got it last year. Why not?

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Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

this is what is needed in every sport....teaching and actual coaching. that is lost in this area.

There are at least 6 coaches that have my respect for writing and signing 2 letters to the superintendent. It has become clear their bosses did not support them in writing the letters, but they did anyway. I do believe they were told they would be subject to firing if forfeited and likely risked discipline just writing the letter. But took stand and call out what they want to impart on the kids as coaches AND educators. Their letter should be required reading for all new coaches in FCPS. Oh, and perhaps the superintendent needs to read it a first time as she seems to have missed the content entirely.

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Anonymous wrote:“Hayfraud” is kinda funny. I like it and it fits.

Hayfraud is perfect.

100% perfect. There could not be more perfect and appropriate name. Well done to who thought of it. That has to be the lasting legacy of this nonsense.

As Sergeant Horvath (Saving Private Ryan) said (I'm paraphrasing): "making Hayfraud stick was the only decent thing we were able to pull through this god- awful mess.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

this is what is needed in every sport....teaching and actual coaching. that is lost in this area.

There are at least 6 coaches that have my respect for writing and signing 2 letters to the superintendent. It has become clear their bosses did not support them in writing the letters, but they did anyway. I do believe they were told they would be subject to firing if forfeited and likely risked discipline just writing the letter. But took stand and call out what they want to impart on the kids as coaches AND educators. Their letter should be required reading for all new coaches in FCPS. Oh, and perhaps the superintendent needs to read it a first time as she seems to have missed the content entirely.

Yes - and I would hope that parents of those 6 schools please make sure to let those coaches know that they (and the wider community) appreciate that they showed the courage that so many other adults in this lack and we appreciate the example they provide for the kids...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

this is what is needed in every sport....teaching and actual coaching. that is lost in this area.

There are at least 6 coaches that have my respect for writing and signing 2 letters to the superintendent. It has become clear their bosses did not support them in writing the letters, but they did anyway. I do believe they were told they would be subject to firing if forfeited and likely risked discipline just writing the letter. But took stand and call out what they want to impart on the kids as coaches AND educators. Their letter should be required reading for all new coaches in FCPS. Oh, and perhaps the superintendent needs to read it a first time as she seems to have missed the content entirely.

Agree. Those coaches showed integrity and stood up to the superintendent for principles of fair play, honesty and following the rules. I am deeply disappointed in Reid and the school board for supporting Hayfraud instead of supporting these principles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

this is what is needed in every sport....teaching and actual coaching. that is lost in this area.

There are at least 6 coaches that have my respect for writing and signing 2 letters to the superintendent. It has become clear their bosses did not support them in writing the letters, but they did anyway. I do believe they were told they would be subject to firing if forfeited and likely risked discipline just writing the letter. But took stand and call out what they want to impart on the kids as coaches AND educators. Their letter should be required reading for all new coaches in FCPS. Oh, and perhaps the superintendent needs to read it a first time as she seems to have missed the content entirely.

Those 6 coaches are haters and so are you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Hayfraud” is kinda funny. I like it and it fits.

Hayfraud is perfect.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

this is what is needed in every sport....teaching and actual coaching. that is lost in this area.

There are at least 6 coaches that have my respect for writing and signing 2 letters to the superintendent. It has become clear their bosses did not support them in writing the letters, but they did anyway. I do believe they were told they would be subject to firing if forfeited and likely risked discipline just writing the letter. But took stand and call out what they want to impart on the kids as coaches AND educators. Their letter should be required reading for all new coaches in FCPS. Oh, and perhaps the superintendent needs to read it a first time as she seems to have missed the content entirely.

Those 6 coaches are haters and so are you.

Your moral compass is non-existent. Those six coaches are what Overton can never be: a decent human being.