Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Anonymous wrote:Another logical, deductive conclusion… Overton came into Hayfield and didn’t care what he had there already because he knew the all transfers were coming. Why else would he destroy a relationship with the previous seasons starting quarterback unless he already knew he had a private school, future D1 kid coming to start for Hayfield???

Destroy a relationship? The coach is the coach and the player should respect the coach. When a better player moves into the school zone and transfers in, he should treat them both equally and do what’s best for the team.

The white entitlement is something else.

What does this have to do with race?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another logical, deductive conclusion… Overton came into Hayfield and didn’t care what he had there already because he knew the all transfers were coming. Why else would he destroy a relationship with the previous seasons starting quarterback unless he already knew he had a private school, future D1 kid coming to start for Hayfield???

Destroy a relationship? The coach is the coach and the player should respect the coach. When a better player moves into the school zone and transfers in, he should treat them both equally and do what’s best for the team.

The white entitlement is something else.

A black coach (45+) mistreats a white player (16 maybe) its white entitlement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Hayfraud” is kinda funny. I like it and it fits.

+1 Chef’s kiss

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another logical, deductive conclusion… Overton came into Hayfield and didn’t care what he had there already because he knew the all transfers were coming. Why else would he destroy a relationship with the previous seasons starting quarterback unless he already knew he had a private school, future D1 kid coming to start for Hayfield???

Destroy a relationship? The coach is the coach and the player should respect the coach. When a better player moves into the school zone and transfers in, he should treat them both equally and do what’s best for the team.

The white entitlement is something else.

Because a coach got a transfer who was better than the white quarterback from the previous season, the coach destroyed the relationship. That’s certainly entitlement to think a position is owed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another logical, deductive conclusion… Overton came into Hayfield and didn’t care what he had there already because he knew the all transfers were coming. Why else would he destroy a relationship with the previous seasons starting quarterback unless he already knew he had a private school, future D1 kid coming to start for Hayfield???

Destroy a relationship? The coach is the coach and the player should respect the coach. When a better player moves into the school zone and transfers in, he should treat them both equally and do what’s best for the team.

The white entitlement is something else.

Because a coach got a transfer who was better than the white quarterback from the previous season, the coach destroyed the relationship. That’s certainly entitlement to think a position is owed.

You’re proving my point… the coach brought a transfer in that was better than the previous season QB. That is against the rules!! It’s called recruiting/proselytizing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

He’s not running that type of program. He’s getting kids into college. A kid can develop in his program, but if he’s developing, he shouldn’t expect to start over kids that are making each other better and helping the program fulfill their goals.

What I say is true if you talk about Madison, Battlefield, Champe or any of the better football programs.

This isnt the 80’s, the kids that are serious are training heavily in the offseason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

My point is that I don’t think Overton would have ever developed my son. Our coaches worked with what they had but it’s more than football to them; they teach these kids how to be better people. Our freshman team is typically around 80 kids.

He’s not running that type of program. He’s getting kids into college. A kid can develop in his program, but if he’s developing, he shouldn’t expect to start over kids that are making each other better and helping the program fulfill their goals.

What I say is true if you talk about Madison, Battlefield, Champe or any of the better football programs.

This isnt the 80’s, the kids that are serious are training heavily in the offseason.

Nonsense. Don't act like this guy is Norman Dale coming in to help team of up-and-comers get into college. This guy clearly cares only about 1) his ego, 2) winning state championship and 3) promoting his side businesses. If he worked hard to get kids ALREADY attending Hayfield into college - then respect. But recruiting 20+ kids from another county - especially when he knew there was chance some of them would end up ineligible - shows "kids" are not the priority here.

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Anonymous wrote:The community needs to devalue a Hayfraud education since they have no scruples. We need employers in FFx county to not give jobs to their students or alums. Create internal pressure at school from the hundreds of non-FB families. If the people from other schools boycott businesses that hire Hayfraud kids, they will feel an economic penalty. Are all those families going to come up from Fredericksburg to shop to keep local businesses open?

This is very unfair to the majority of kids at the school. The ones who actually live in boundary have no control over where they go to high school and a student who works hard and has nothing at all to do with football shouldn't be kept out of college or denied a job just because the school principal and their head football coach are POS.

I predict there will be a mass exodus of teachers after this school year and a lot of people who leave will be gloves off when teachers who are looking to transfer ask what it's like to work there. Probably a few "early retirements" too. Someone should leak the school climate survey after it happens and everyone should watch the vacancy list closely. Parents who have the means should probably start looking at private schools for next year soon because there may not be qualified applicants for core academic classes.

Actually others in FCPS should just boycott any of their athletics “sponsors”. Post names of any businesses that advertise at the school or stadium and those from other schools should boycott those businesses for supporting those fraudsters. I agree make their community feel the economic pain for participating in this.

Interesting… Hayfraud is a Nike school. Has anyone let Nike know who is representing them? They have cancelled deals with professional athletes for less.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The YouTuber who played the recording of the coaches call said call proves a witch hunt, but don’t hear that at all when listen to it. Know Herndon coach did not sign letters, but anyone know if his exit part of fall out? If so, I hope he left with a statement to be shared.

Herndon is in a different region (separate from Hayfield). So I doubt it’s related.

If I were football coach in any school in FCPS and not otherwise FCPS employee where I needed my paycheck, absolutely would walk away bc would not want to be coach for school system that doesn’t believe or support rules and fair play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who gives a flying f**k about a trophy. This isn't Texas. What I care about is fair play, and I care about protections for homeless students being exploited to build a dynasty of ringers who all believe this one grifter is their key to NFL riches.

He's not a great coach. A great coach builds up the team he has. He's a great recruiter and if he wasn't so dishonest, maybe he could make a good living doing that. But his job is to be a high school coach, to build up the kids he has. He utterly failed at that. He came in to Hayfield and destroyed the kids who were there, some of whom worked for 3 years on that team.

Co binging all the best players to transfer to your school may be how you win in college, but that's not how HS rules work.

Glad you pointed out that the coach’s job is to develop the kids he has. Our football program has been such a great experience because the coaches have developed these kids coming in as freshman. My son had never played the game before but they taught these kids how to work hard and be disciplined. I’m so glad he had this experience - he is a better person for it. It’s a shame this is happening at Hayfield.

Every coach and every situation isn’t good for player development. Especially not at the high school level. Get your kid a trainer to work with in the offseason.

I know a guy. Well, know of a guy. Goes by D.O. you may have heard of him?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The community needs to devalue a Hayfraud education since they have no scruples. We need employers in FFx county to not give jobs to their students or alums. Create internal pressure at school from the hundreds of non-FB families. If the people from other schools boycott businesses that hire Hayfraud kids, they will feel an economic penalty. Are all those families going to come up from Fredericksburg to shop to keep local businesses open?

Agree. Create internal pressure at school since FCPS won’t do it. Kids at Hayfraud know stuff. If it starts hitting them I bet they will turn real quick and give evidence to get this out of their school. Those FB players are going to have wonder if that student behind them in 3rd period knows something that they can turn them in on.

LOL! You guys are insane!! 😂😂

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Anonymous wrote:I might be late to the game on this one but now I’m reading in other spots that hayfield’s best player is facing fun charges. Any truth to this?

Source?