Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought she was a fake fraud because she’s a Jewish girl from California who had a ton of surgeries to try to look Nordic or something and then got married and tried to brand herself like some New England WASP mom. Everything about her is fake. Look at how she looked in her teens to now. Her face is totally different. It’s startling.

Isn't this a lot of actors though? I assume most of them have had plastic surgery. Also having procedures like that in your teens... how much of that is her doing what she wants, versus her parents/agents/industry people telling her what to do in order to get jobs?

Not saying she's a total innocent -- I've never really liked her and find her arrogant and annoying. But I have trouble working up anger about her plastic surgery when it's so common and was probably necessary for having a career.

Baldoni hasn't embraced his Jewishness either so what's the issue?

Blake Lively is not Jewish. She's Scottish, English and German.

Well since it was brought up people shouldn't ignore who Baldoni is. Even if they are wrong about Blake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought she was a fake fraud because she’s a Jewish girl from California who had a ton of surgeries to try to look Nordic or something and then got married and tried to brand herself like some New England WASP mom. Everything about her is fake. Look at how she looked in her teens to now. Her face is totally different. It’s startling.

Isn't this a lot of actors though? I assume most of them have had plastic surgery. Also having procedures like that in your teens... how much of that is her doing what she wants, versus her parents/agents/industry people telling her what to do in order to get jobs?

Not saying she's a total innocent -- I've never really liked her and find her arrogant and annoying. But I have trouble working up anger about her plastic surgery when it's so common and was probably necessary for having a career.

Baldoni hasn't embraced his Jewishness either so what's the issue?

Blake Lively is not Jewish. She's Scottish, English and German.

I’m Jewish and I have eyes. Google photos when she was a teen. That’s a Jewish gal.

Maybe put your glasses on.

[Anonymous]

Omg this case is really drawing out all the crackpots

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It doesn’t matter if she’s had surgeries or if she’s Jewish.

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought she was a fake fraud because she’s a Jewish girl from California who had a ton of surgeries to try to look Nordic or something and then got married and tried to brand herself like some New England WASP mom. Everything about her is fake. Look at how she looked in her teens to now. Her face is totally different. It’s startling.

Isn't this a lot of actors though? I assume most of them have had plastic surgery. Also having procedures like that in your teens... how much of that is her doing what she wants, versus her parents/agents/industry people telling her what to do in order to get jobs?

Not saying she's a total innocent -- I've never really liked her and find her arrogant and annoying. But I have trouble working up anger about her plastic surgery when it's so common and was probably necessary for having a career.

Baldoni hasn't embraced his Jewishness either so what's the issue?

Blake Lively is not Jewish. She's Scottish, English and German.

Well since it was brought up people shouldn't ignore who Baldoni is. Even if they are wrong about Blake.

What do you mean by that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blake is Jewish, as are Scarlet Johansson and Alanis Morissette. Is Ryan Reynolds Jewish too? Seems a little odd all the women he’s ever been linked to are Jewish.

I love genealogy so looked at her tree. All southern people from WV, VA, Alabama, Maryland who came from western Europe a very long time ago (1600s and 1700s).

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Anonymous wrote:Reading a thread on Reddit where most people see an uncomfortable person trying to politely redirect a handsy director. So, I concede, there are a few ways to read this. It’s certainly an interesting case given the setting. Actors acting. He has one vision; she has another.

I think it will come down to having an IC present to avoid situations like this.

Agree, and also want to note this is one scene. Lively's complaint is a series of events, of which this is just one.

I don't think this footage exonerates him or PR best her complaint. I see two people who don't like each other but have to work closely together. I see a somewhat demanding, hard to work with star. I see a director who is aggravated with that and overlooking/ignoring the fact that she does not seem happy or comfortable.

Beyond that, I don't know.

So Blake’s happiness is the standard here? How many of us are sometimes not happy or perfectly comfortable at work. She’s getting paid $3 million to do this freaking movie. Now that does not mean anything goes of course, but any reasonable person would say a fully clothed scene set in a crowded bar where all they have to do is intimately dance with each other is not harassment. I am sure every actress who isn’t a big fan of their costar or doesn’t know him well has felt uncomfortable being close to a person they don’t know or maybe they don’t like. it’s my understanding that that’s part of the job and they get paid a lot for it.

It would’ve been great if an intimacy coordinator was onset possibly, it would’ve been great if Blake since she’s clearly so comfortable directing, could’ve spoken up and said hey, I’m a little uncomfortable with the kissing on the neck. Can we not do that. But absent of that it just baffles me that anyone would call this sexual harassment.

I also find it interesting that she is the one that demanded they talk through the scene, he didn’t want to. And then she used his words that he said against him. I guess she should’ve laid out and exactly what they should’ve talked about and exactly what she would be comfortable talking about. People keep criticizing his directing, but maybe she should’ve been more clear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought she was a fake fraud because she’s a Jewish girl from California who had a ton of surgeries to try to look Nordic or something and then got married and tried to brand herself like some New England WASP mom. Everything about her is fake. Look at how she looked in her teens to now. Her face is totally different. It’s startling.

Isn't this a lot of actors though? I assume most of them have had plastic surgery. Also having procedures like that in your teens... how much of that is her doing what she wants, versus her parents/agents/industry people telling her what to do in order to get jobs?

Not saying she's a total innocent -- I've never really liked her and find her arrogant and annoying. But I have trouble working up anger about her plastic surgery when it's so common and was probably necessary for having a career.

Baldoni hasn't embraced his Jewishness either so what's the issue?

Blake Lively is not Jewish. She's Scottish, English and German.

Well since it was brought up people shouldn't ignore who Baldoni is. Even if they are wrong about Blake.

What do you mean by that?

"What do you mean?" Well why was any of this brought up at all? What does the poster worried about Blake care about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading a thread on Reddit where most people see an uncomfortable person trying to politely redirect a handsy director. So, I concede, there are a few ways to read this. It’s certainly an interesting case given the setting. Actors acting. He has one vision; she has another.

I think it will come down to having an IC present to avoid situations like this.

Agree, and also want to note this is one scene. Lively's complaint is a series of events, of which this is just one.

I don't think this footage exonerates him or PR best her complaint. I see two people who don't like each other but have to work closely together. I see a somewhat demanding, hard to work with star. I see a director who is aggravated with that and overlooking/ignoring the fact that she does not seem happy or comfortable.

Beyond that, I don't know.

So Blake’s happiness is the standard here? How many of us are sometimes not happy or perfectly comfortable at work. She’s getting paid $3 million to do this freaking movie. Now that does not mean anything goes of course, but any reasonable person would say a fully clothed scene set in a crowded bar where all they have to do is intimately dance with each other is not harassment. I am sure every actress who isn’t a big fan of their costar or doesn’t know him well has felt uncomfortable being close to a person they don’t know or maybe they don’t like. it’s my understanding that that’s part of the job and they get paid a lot for it.

It would’ve been great if an intimacy coordinator was onset possibly, it would’ve been great if Blake since she’s clearly so comfortable directing, could’ve spoken up and said hey, I’m a little uncomfortable with the kissing on the neck. Can we not do that. But absent of that it just baffles me that anyone would call this sexual harassment.

I also find it interesting that she is the one that demanded they talk through the scene, he didn’t want to. And then she used his words that he said against him. I guess she should’ve laid out and exactly what they should’ve talked about and exactly what she would be comfortable talking about. People keep criticizing his directing, but maybe she should’ve been more clear.

I read a comment maybe on YouTube or Reddit that in the book, Ryle is really into the tattoo on Lily’s neck and his early interest in it sets up a later scene of abuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading a thread on Reddit where most people see an uncomfortable person trying to politely redirect a handsy director. So, I concede, there are a few ways to read this. It’s certainly an interesting case given the setting. Actors acting. He has one vision; she has another.

I think it will come down to having an IC present to avoid situations like this.

Agree, and also want to note this is one scene. Lively's complaint is a series of events, of which this is just one.

I don't think this footage exonerates him or PR best her complaint. I see two people who don't like each other but have to work closely together. I see a somewhat demanding, hard to work with star. I see a director who is aggravated with that and overlooking/ignoring the fact that she does not seem happy or comfortable.

Beyond that, I don't know.

You’re in the minority. She is an *actress* acting the role of someone falling in love. this isn’t the scene from Last Tango in Paris.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading a thread on Reddit where most people see an uncomfortable person trying to politely redirect a handsy director. So, I concede, there are a few ways to read this. It’s certainly an interesting case given the setting. Actors acting. He has one vision; she has another.

I think it will come down to having an IC present to avoid situations like this.

Agree, and also want to note this is one scene. Lively's complaint is a series of events, of which this is just one.

I don't think this footage exonerates him or PR best her complaint. I see two people who don't like each other but have to work closely together. I see a somewhat demanding, hard to work with star. I see a director who is aggravated with that and overlooking/ignoring the fact that she does not seem happy or comfortable.

Beyond that, I don't know.

You’re in the minority. She is an *actress* acting the role of someone falling in love. this isn’t the scene from Last Tango in Paris.

In the minority on what? I'm just saying this is just one scene and I don't think it resolves the question of whether his behavior on set crossed the line. She also alleges that he repeatedly told her he had been communicating with her dead father -- this footage doesn't speak to that. She says they pressured her to do nudity in the birthing scene -- this footage doesn't speak to that. She says Heath came into the makeup trailer while she was having body makeup removed and refused to turn around to give her privacy -- this footage doesn't speak to that.

I have no idea if she was harassed or not but this footage does not actually resolve that question. What I see is a director/star who doesn't really get along with his costar and a tense scene where he is trying to initiate more physical intimacy between their characters and Lively is pushing back on that in several different ways. I don't think that means he harassed her. It's just what I'm seeing with my eyes in this scene. This is not some smoking gun for either of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought she was a fake fraud because she’s a Jewish girl from California who had a ton of surgeries to try to look Nordic or something and then got married and tried to brand herself like some New England WASP mom. Everything about her is fake. Look at how she looked in her teens to now. Her face is totally different. It’s startling.

Isn't this a lot of actors though? I assume most of them have had plastic surgery. Also having procedures like that in your teens... how much of that is her doing what she wants, versus her parents/agents/industry people telling her what to do in order to get jobs?

Not saying she's a total innocent -- I've never really liked her and find her arrogant and annoying. But I have trouble working up anger about her plastic surgery when it's so common and was probably necessary for having a career.

Baldoni hasn't embraced his Jewishness either so what's the issue?

Blake Lively is not Jewish. She's Scottish, English and German.

I’m Jewish and I have eyes. Google photos when she was a teen. That’s a Jewish gal.

Can you explain this to those of us who are not Jewish? How can you tell by looking at a teen photo?

[Anonymous]

I think you could argue that when the director is one of the actors involved in a scene with intimacy, they should have an IC on set because it creates a weird dynamic. Especially in a situation like this where the director is playing a guy who turns out to be abusive.

I think, watching this, that the lines between Baldoni the director, Baldoni the actor, and Ryle the character, are getting crossed in ways that could be confusing or upsetting for his costar.

That doesn't mean I think he's a harasser. I don't. But I think the situation could have been handled better by the studio and by Baldoni himself, as they were in charge of the production.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think you could argue that when the director is one of the actors involved in a scene with intimacy, they should have an IC on set because it creates a weird dynamic. Especially in a situation like this where the director is playing a guy who turns out to be abusive.

I think, watching this, that the lines between Baldoni the director, Baldoni the actor, and Ryle the character, are getting crossed in ways that could be confusing or upsetting for his costar.

That doesn't mean I think he's a harasser. I don't. But I think the situation could have been handled better by the studio and by Baldoni himself, as they were in charge of the production.

The issue here is they are supposed to be acting a scene as characters in love and she doesn't want to stay in character by either staying silent as instructed, or just improvising some light in character dialogue. The talking muddled the boundaries so now instead of Lily and Ryle touching it's Blake and Justin touching. It's awkward.

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought she was a fake fraud because she’s a Jewish girl from California who had a ton of surgeries to try to look Nordic or something and then got married and tried to brand herself like some New England WASP mom. Everything about her is fake. Look at how she looked in her teens to now. Her face is totally different. It’s startling.

Isn't this a lot of actors though? I assume most of them have had plastic surgery. Also having procedures like that in your teens... how much of that is her doing what she wants, versus her parents/agents/industry people telling her what to do in order to get jobs?

Not saying she's a total innocent -- I've never really liked her and find her arrogant and annoying. But I have trouble working up anger about her plastic surgery when it's so common and was probably necessary for having a career.

Baldoni hasn't embraced his Jewishness either so what's the issue?

Blake Lively is not Jewish. She's Scottish, English and German.

I’m Jewish and I have eyes. Google photos when she was a teen. That’s a Jewish gal.

Can you explain this to those of us who are not Jewish? How can you tell by looking at a teen photo?

This poster is not Jewish. Many non-Jewish people have big noses.