Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think NCSL is always going to be there, and its oldest age groups will still have a handful of teams capable of competing in State Cup.

I wonder, though, if anyone will jump ship from VPL. Or what it means for EDP, which is kinda sorta trying to do some club-centric scheduling (actually, so is NCSL) but doesn't expect every club to field a first-division team in every age group.

Perhaps some VPL clubs will throw some teams into it but I doubt they would leave VPL over two age groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

You commit before you are given the schedule. Only a complete idiot would put a 10-year old (U-12 under the new birth year change) in a car for a 60-min game with a round-trip time of 8 hours.

So f-king not worth it. I can't believe the coaches of little kids put up with that shit either. But--I guess maybe even they got tired of putting the miles on their car...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

You commit before you are given the schedule. Only a complete idiot would put a 10-year old (U-12 under the new birth year change) in a car for a 60-min game with a round-trip time of 8 hours.

So f-king not worth it. I can't believe the coaches of little kids put up with that shit either. But--I guess maybe even they got tired of putting the miles on their car...

ignore that CCL f'tard. he has been been beating a dead horse, and obviously represents a minority viewpoint among CCL parents. CCL has listened to parents bitch'n about excessive travel at young ages to play poor teams (good teams could make a difference, i personally enjoy watching my kid go play beach fc . . . get amped and make a car ride out of it), and ccl has responded as promised and fixing this stupid travel debate and mooting this guy. this guy is a douche. at our ccl club, you can't ask the TD to move your A team kid to an ODSL team . . . someone tried to do that at U12 and go down to a CCL2 team, but the club pushes back that it is not in the best interest of your child to play at that level. So unlike the inference from this douche, most parents stay committed and do all the travel to the CCL matches like idiots i guess, but of course they always have the right to complain about it and seek changes. if they hadn't complained so much, then CCL might not have made this change. who the f knows, but this has nothing to do with commitment. this guy is like a broken record.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Dioshit,

Thanks -- I'd been looking for a name for my metal cover band.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

You commit before you are given the schedule. Only a complete idiot would put a 10-year old (U-12 under the new birth year change) in a car for a 60-min game with a round-trip time of 8 hours.

So f-king not worth it. I can't believe the coaches of little kids put up with that shit either. But--I guess maybe even they got tired of putting the miles on their car...

Only a complete idiot would look at a league that has "Beach FC" included and NOT think you might have to fucking drive there once a year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

You commit before you are given the schedule. Only a complete idiot would put a 10-year old (U-12 under the new birth year change) in a car for a 60-min game with a round-trip time of 8 hours.

So f-king not worth it. I can't believe the coaches of little kids put up with that shit either. But--I guess maybe even they got tired of putting the miles on their car...

ignore that CCL f'tard. he has been been beating a dead horse, and obviously represents a minority viewpoint among CCL parents. CCL has listened to parents bitch'n about excessive travel at young ages to play poor teams (good teams could make a difference, i personally enjoy watching my kid go play beach fc . . . get amped and make a car ride out of it), and ccl has responded as promised and fixing this stupid travel debate and mooting this guy. this guy is a douche. at our ccl club, you can't ask the TD to move your A team kid to an ODSL team . . . someone tried to do that at U12 and go down to a CCL2 team, but the club pushes back that it is not in the best interest of your child to play at that level. So unlike the inference from this douche, most parents stay committed and do all the travel to the CCL matches like idiots i guess, but of course they always have the right to complain about it and seek changes. if they hadn't complained so much, then CCL might not have made this change. who the f knows, but this has nothing to do with commitment. this guy is like a broken record.

Then you leave the club but your to fucking scared to walk away from whatever you think CCL is doing for you. Yes, CCL is making some changes but to bitch about something you freely walked into and yet were to fucking stupid to look at a map and think for a second what that might mean well you are just plain stupid.

It doesnt make the league right, but the utter ignorance here is amazing.

"What!?!? Yes I saw a clubs from Richmond and VA Beach in the league but I didn't know we actually drove there!!!"

Whether the travel is necessary you do realize how fucking stupid you sound acting like it caught you off guard right? I bet you are still
Complaining about a time share you bought once too. Do some research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

You commit before you are given the schedule. Only a complete idiot would put a 10-year old (U-12 under the new birth year change) in a car for a 60-min game with a round-trip time of 8 hours.

So f-king not worth it. I can't believe the coaches of little kids put up with that shit either. But--I guess maybe even they got tired of putting the miles on their car...

ignore that CCL f'tard. he has been been beating a dead horse, and obviously represents a minority viewpoint among CCL parents. CCL has listened to parents bitch'n about excessive travel at young ages to play poor teams (good teams could make a difference, i personally enjoy watching my kid go play beach fc . . . get amped and make a car ride out of it), and ccl has responded as promised and fixing this stupid travel debate and mooting this guy. this guy is a douche. at our ccl club, you can't ask the TD to move your A team kid to an ODSL team . . . someone tried to do that at U12 and go down to a CCL2 team, but the club pushes back that it is not in the best interest of your child to play at that level. So unlike the inference from this douche, most parents stay committed and do all the travel to the CCL matches like idiots i guess, but of course they always have the right to complain about it and seek changes. if they hadn't complained so much, then CCL might not have made this change. who the f knows, but this has nothing to do with commitment. this guy is like a broken record.

Then you leave the club but your to fucking scared to walk away from whatever you think CCL is doing for you. Yes, CCL is making some changes but to bitch about something you freely walked into and yet were to fucking stupid to look at a map and think for a second what that might mean well you are just plain stupid.

It doesnt make the league right, but the utter ignorance here is amazing.

"What!?!? Yes I saw a clubs from Richmond and VA Beach in the league but I didn't know we actually drove there!!!"

Whether the travel is necessary you do realize how fucking stupid you sound acting like it caught you off guard right? I bet you are still
Complaining about a time share you bought once too. Do some research.

You have to accept the spot before you know which of the teams your kid is on. You don't find out until after installment which league is associated with that particular team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

You commit before you are given the schedule. Only a complete idiot would put a 10-year old (U-12 under the new birth year change) in a car for a 60-min game with a round-trip time of 8 hours.

So f-king not worth it. I can't believe the coaches of little kids put up with that shit either. But--I guess maybe even they got tired of putting the miles on their car...

ignore that CCL f'tard. he has been been beating a dead horse, and obviously represents a minority viewpoint among CCL parents. CCL has listened to parents bitch'n about excessive travel at young ages to play poor teams (good teams could make a difference, i personally enjoy watching my kid go play beach fc . . . get amped and make a car ride out of it), and ccl has responded as promised and fixing this stupid travel debate and mooting this guy. this guy is a douche. at our ccl club, you can't ask the TD to move your A team kid to an ODSL team . . . someone tried to do that at U12 and go down to a CCL2 team, but the club pushes back that it is not in the best interest of your child to play at that level. So unlike the inference from this douche, most parents stay committed and do all the travel to the CCL matches like idiots i guess, but of course they always have the right to complain about it and seek changes. if they hadn't complained so much, then CCL might not have made this change. who the f knows, but this has nothing to do with commitment. this guy is like a broken record.

Then you leave the club but your to fucking scared to walk away from whatever you think CCL is doing for you. Yes, CCL is making some changes but to bitch about something you freely walked into and yet were to fucking stupid to look at a map and think for a second what that might mean well you are just plain stupid.

It doesnt make the league right, but the utter ignorance here is amazing.

"What!?!? Yes I saw a clubs from Richmond and VA Beach in the league but I didn't know we actually drove there!!!"

Whether the travel is necessary you do realize how fucking stupid you sound acting like it caught you off guard right? I bet you are still
Complaining about a time share you bought once too. Do some research.

Losing end of a losing argument. Everyone has told you pages ago they knew about the travel, duh. Quit your whining over every poster that comes on here saying they want the CCL long distance travel to end for their young children. They stayed committed to the good of CCL, and got the bad fixed. They won, you lost. Get over it. The regional league is no more for the Zone 1 developmental ages where it matters most to families. They have a word for someone like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

You commit before you are given the schedule. Only a complete idiot would put a 10-year old (U-12 under the new birth year change) in a car for a 60-min game with a round-trip time of 8 hours.

So f-king not worth it. I can't believe the coaches of little kids put up with that shit either. But--I guess maybe even they got tired of putting the miles on their car...

ignore that CCL f'tard. he has been been beating a dead horse, and obviously represents a minority viewpoint among CCL parents. CCL has listened to parents bitch'n about excessive travel at young ages to play poor teams (good teams could make a difference, i personally enjoy watching my kid go play beach fc . . . get amped and make a car ride out of it), and ccl has responded as promised and fixing this stupid travel debate and mooting this guy. this guy is a douche. at our ccl club, you can't ask the TD to move your A team kid to an ODSL team . . . someone tried to do that at U12 and go down to a CCL2 team, but the club pushes back that it is not in the best interest of your child to play at that level. So unlike the inference from this douche, most parents stay committed and do all the travel to the CCL matches like idiots i guess, but of course they always have the right to complain about it and seek changes. if they hadn't complained so much, then CCL might not have made this change. who the f knows, but this has nothing to do with commitment. this guy is like a broken record.

Then you leave the club but your to fucking scared to walk away from whatever you think CCL is doing for you. Yes, CCL is making some changes but to bitch about something you freely walked into and yet were to fucking stupid to look at a map and think for a second what that might mean well you are just plain stupid.

It doesnt make the league right, but the utter ignorance here is amazing.

"What!?!? Yes I saw a clubs from Richmond and VA Beach in the league but I didn't know we actually drove there!!!"

Whether the travel is necessary you do realize how fucking stupid you sound acting like it caught you off guard right? I bet you are still
Complaining about a time share you bought once too. Do some research.

You have to accept the spot before you know which of the teams your kid is on. You don't find out until after installment which league is associated with that particular team.

Yup, same at our CCL club. You don't leave the club / team if your kid is so good that he gets put on the U11 CCL1 team with players of his skill set but with the "dreaded" regional travel; you take the bad with the good, and let your voice be heard along with all the other parents, and then you get something like NextGen as proof that posters like this should be put on the Ignore list. You didn't need to leave your team or club to fix this problem. This poster's advice was bad. She's bitter that CCL listened to parents and coaches instead of forcing parents to be happy about travel to Richmond, or leave, as she suggests. Come 2017, we can look forward to not having to listen to her bad advice anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

You commit before you are given the schedule. Only a complete idiot would put a 10-year old (U-12 under the new birth year change) in a car for a 60-min game with a round-trip time of 8 hours.

So f-king not worth it. I can't believe the coaches of little kids put up with that shit either. But--I guess maybe even they got tired of putting the miles on their car...

ignore that CCL f'tard. he has been been beating a dead horse, and obviously represents a minority viewpoint among CCL parents. CCL has listened to parents bitch'n about excessive travel at young ages to play poor teams (good teams could make a difference, i personally enjoy watching my kid go play beach fc . . . get amped and make a car ride out of it), and ccl has responded as promised and fixing this stupid travel debate and mooting this guy. this guy is a douche. at our ccl club, you can't ask the TD to move your A team kid to an ODSL team . . . someone tried to do that at U12 and go down to a CCL2 team, but the club pushes back that it is not in the best interest of your child to play at that level. So unlike the inference from this douche, most parents stay committed and do all the travel to the CCL matches like idiots i guess, but of course they always have the right to complain about it and seek changes. if they hadn't complained so much, then CCL might not have made this change. who the f knows, but this has nothing to do with commitment. this guy is like a broken record.

Then you leave the club but your to fucking scared to walk away from whatever you think CCL is doing for you. Yes, CCL is making some changes but to bitch about something you freely walked into and yet were to fucking stupid to look at a map and think for a second what that might mean well you are just plain stupid.

It doesnt make the league right, but the utter ignorance here is amazing.

"What!?!? Yes I saw a clubs from Richmond and VA Beach in the league but I didn't know we actually drove there!!!"

Whether the travel is necessary you do realize how fucking stupid you sound acting like it caught you off guard right? I bet you are still
Complaining about a time share you bought once too. Do some research.

You have to accept the spot before you know which of the teams your kid is on. You don't find out until after installment which league is associated with that particular team.

Yup, same at our CCL club. You don't leave the club / team if your kid is so good that he gets put on the U11 CCL1 team with players of his skill set but with the "dreaded" regional travel; you take the bad with the good, and let your voice be heard along with all the other parents, and then you get something like NextGen as proof that posters like this should be put on the Ignore list. You didn't need to leave your team or club to fix this problem. This poster's advice was bad. She's bitter that CCL listened to parents and coaches instead of forcing parents to be happy about travel to Richmond, or leave, as she suggests. Come 2017, we can look forward to not having to listen to her bad advice anymore.

""He" gets amped up driving to VA Beach for a game??". That's just fucking weird. That's not a chick. It's a dude living vicariously through his kid.

He loves watching his kid play FC Beach. I'd take a competive local club over that any day.

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Anonymous wrote:This discussion seems overkill, no? We've been in CCL lower ages for 3 years.

At U9 and U10, which is not the main focus of the NexGen announcement as far as I can read it, CCL didn't have some "travel distance problem" as some allege, as the teams in Northern Virginia would just play the same set of local teams twice, once in the fall and once again in the spring, more or less. They never had to do big travel down South.

At U11 and U12 is when the regional travel began, and between the fall and spring Seasons combined, you were supposed to travel around the region and play each of the other CCL clubs one time for a total of about 15 games, more or less. Talk among parents was that it was getting back to the league that the parents were unhappy about all the travel, especially down to Southern Virginia to play some very poor teams like Roanoke and Legacy. Rumor has been CCL was going to do something to fix it, and it looks like they're trying to now fix the U11 and U12 level by eliminating that travel down south to play those faraway CCL clubs, and hopefully replace it with a few new clubs up here who would have interest participating in u11 & u12 with the full member CCL clubs.

Other than that, I can't read much more into this without pure speculation and guessing.

We are looking forward to 2017 when we don't have to do an 8 hour car ride to play a horrible team like Roanoke.

Just have a 'buy' or have a sick-out. That is dumb as hell to drive that far. I feel an illness coming on...

Don't join the team if you can't make the commitment. You don't have to like the travel and you don't have to join the team.

You commit before you are given the schedule. Only a complete idiot would put a 10-year old (U-12 under the new birth year change) in a car for a 60-min game with a round-trip time of 8 hours.

So f-king not worth it. I can't believe the coaches of little kids put up with that shit either. But--I guess maybe even they got tired of putting the miles on their car...

ignore that CCL f'tard. he has been been beating a dead horse, and obviously represents a minority viewpoint among CCL parents. CCL has listened to parents bitch'n about excessive travel at young ages to play poor teams (good teams could make a difference, i personally enjoy watching my kid go play beach fc . . . get amped and make a car ride out of it), and ccl has responded as promised and fixing this stupid travel debate and mooting this guy. this guy is a douche. at our ccl club, you can't ask the TD to move your A team kid to an ODSL team . . . someone tried to do that at U12 and go down to a CCL2 team, but the club pushes back that it is not in the best interest of your child to play at that level. So unlike the inference from this douche, most parents stay committed and do all the travel to the CCL matches like idiots i guess, but of course they always have the right to complain about it and seek changes. if they hadn't complained so much, then CCL might not have made this change. who the f knows, but this has nothing to do with commitment. this guy is like a broken record.

Then you leave the club but your to fucking scared to walk away from whatever you think CCL is doing for you. Yes, CCL is making some changes but to bitch about something you freely walked into and yet were to fucking stupid to look at a map and think for a second what that might mean well you are just plain stupid.

It doesnt make the league right, but the utter ignorance here is amazing.

"What!?!? Yes I saw a clubs from Richmond and VA Beach in the league but I didn't know we actually drove there!!!"

Whether the travel is necessary you do realize how fucking stupid you sound acting like it caught you off guard right? I bet you are still
Complaining about a time share you bought once too. Do some research.

You have to accept the spot before you know which of the teams your kid is on. You don't find out until after installment which league is associated with that particular team.

Yup, same at our CCL club. You don't leave the club / team if your kid is so good that he gets put on the U11 CCL1 team with players of his skill set but with the "dreaded" regional travel; you take the bad with the good, and let your voice be heard along with all the other parents, and then you get something like NextGen as proof that posters like this should be put on the Ignore list. You didn't need to leave your team or club to fix this problem. This poster's advice was bad. She's bitter that CCL listened to parents and coaches instead of forcing parents to be happy about travel to Richmond, or leave, as she suggests. Come 2017, we can look forward to not having to listen to her bad advice anymore.

""He" gets amped up driving to VA Beach for a game??". That's just fucking weird. That's not a chick. It's a dude living vicariously through his kid.

He loves watching his kid play FC Beach. I'd take a competive local club over that any day.

Beach is worth the drive. Other then Arl., BRYC, and Loudon, the rest of the 12 ccl clubs are overrated or just plain suck.

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Expecting competitive balance from U9-U11 kids is stupid. They are children.

U17s are children too.

It's true that it's more difficult to get competitive balance consistently at the younger ages since there is less competitive history to go by, but with a little effort you can get pretty close most of the time. That's the reason most of us with kids on the more competitive ccl teams at younger ages have been so frustrated. BRYC is a good example. They may very well have a great history, and some strong teams at older age groups. But at the younger ages, on the boys side, they don't. At tournaments they struggle in C brackets. So when they meet one of the better CCL teams - its a joke. Waste of time for everyone. To me it seems like EDP does a much better job, but I'm sure if my kid's team played in that league I'd find something else to bitch about too. ;]