UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

His manifesto does not say this. He talked about his mom’s and his treatment being denied by UHC.

Someone found his Reddit posts about wanting the spine surgery and the doctor wouldn’t do it. His mom had the money to pay for whatever treatment she needed, insurance or not- I cannot imagine she went without anything she deemed she needed. No way UHC forced limits to her care she couldn’t have over ridden herself and payed for

My understanding is that the supposed manifesto including discussion of his mom is a total fake. The actual document he had on him is much shorter and I have seen it reprinted on more reputable sources but can’t verify it’s the actual document. It doesn’t discuss him mom or a personal medical situation at all.

Correct. His note in hand was short (<300 words), vague, high level and filled with cliches.

Half of it was him saying he worked alone and don’t spend time finding accomplices.

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https://www.wired.com/story/internet-culture-luigi-mangione-major-shift-fandom/?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

As Ryan Broderick put it in his Garbage Day newsletter on Monday, “It’s possible that this is the most aligned America—well, aside from the folks in its highest tax brackets—has been about a news story since the invention of the internet.”

Want further proof? Look no further than the comments on Daily Wire host Ben Shapiro’s YouTube channel. On a video titled “The EVIL Revolutionary Left Cheers Murder!” the responses were swift and unequivocal: “FACT: Both left AND right are cheering! We don't care about your feelings”; “I’m not buying this ‘left vs right’ shit anymore Ben, I want health care for my family”; “Just because ‘the left’ likes something doesn’t mean you have to instinctively hate it. Wake up and read the room bro.” Not exactly the kind of banter typically found in the comments section of a manosphere video.

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is there is a whole lot of untreated mental illness in the pretty package of a wealthy and attractive family. I would not be surprised if he showed signs of significant mental illness prior. Yes, it's hard to find the right help, but extreme wealth helps. mom could afford to go out of pocket for her health issues and his surgery. There were definitely issues there if they or the father or whoever wasn't willing to just throw some of their own money at this and even sue later rather than delay treatment. Instead this got dragged out and you have an unstable ticking time bomb hearing mom can't get treatment yet and wondering about the cost of his surgery. Money is a buffer. Use it.

I really don’t think this was a money issue. They could have afforded any treatment out of pocket. My theory is someone had an undesirable outcome from surgery/treatments and then the blame game started. Medicine and surgery can’t fix everything.

Ugh. If true this is so self centered.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of disbelief- ppl think it’s a setup:
https://x.com/lawyerleew/status/1866607817534173479?s=46

Lawyer Lee is in it for the clicks and YouTube revenue.

He’s pushing his narrative hard:
I have a great connection with my new client!

I would be honored to rep him in a Pa and a NY trial!

I will speak with his parents soon about how well it’s going.

She’s one of those shock YouTube lawyers with the always innocent take. Revenue must be drying up from the previous trial she covered, Richard Allen, who killed two girls. She says he’s innocent. If I’m not mistaken, she also thinks Scott Peterson is innocent.

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Anonymous wrote:Mangione is no better than the Unabomber or the Columbine killers. An oversized sense of moral superiority, leading to vigilantism.

The Unabomber and Columbine killers were killing people willy-nilly. Mangione was very targeted in only going after someone who is directly guilty for ruining the lives of thousands.

I don't think you know as much about the Unabomber as you think you do.

+1. The Unabomber targeted certain people based on his clearly defined beliefs.

Yes but he ended up killing or maiming random secretaries and the owner of a local computer repair shop so hardly an iron clad plan to bring down the techno state or whatever.

Who knows what Luigi would have done with his $8k and loaded gun in his backpack. If he had another manic episode the whole McDs could have been shot up.

Well done Atoona police. And a rookie questioned him! Well done. Calm, basic questions, no leading the guy, got confirmation, all on camera and now in police file for PA, NY and the FBI.

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Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

We the public do not know if he got surgery or not, if he recovered or not, if he paid off his part of his care or not
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We know nothing. Young adults posting online to friends or strangers is 80% BS and posturing.

This will be a fascinating case in that the 26 yo left BS and true social media posts and emails and reviews everywhere. Some true, many false (as is the nature with people’s online self).

It will also play into the current court case where the young adult with the AI friend commit suicide. My VC/ psychologist contact is as expert witness on that one. It’s a lot to process. also in any court system I believe.

Moral of the story: Delete ALL your reviews and posts on social media and news sites NOW!

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Anonymous wrote:Mangione is no better than the Unabomber or the Columbine killers. An oversized sense of moral superiority, leading to vigilantism.

Correct

He got laid off and something about back pain.

Billions of people have lived through both of those and more and not murdered anyone.

Yes, exactly!

Finally the voices of sanity and reason are emerging.

My tech friends get laid off with payouts all the time! Then go get another job. Sometimes it takes a couple months, sometimes a full 12 mos. Cest le vie

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I gotta get rid of my wash Post comments. As does everyone. They’re damning.

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Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

Many people who become idealized figures supposedly for the working class start out as far wealthier. It’s not an uncommon arc, see Che Guevara as another example.

Poor little Luigi, someone told him "No."

I’m thinking he want was not used to that word.

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Imagine your waPo comments were sent to your employer. What would happen?

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Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

We the public do not know if he got surgery or not, if he recovered or not, if he paid off his part of his care or not
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We know nothing. Young adults posting online to friends or strangers is 80% BS and posturing.

This will be a fascinating case in that the 26 yo left BS and true social media posts and emails and reviews everywhere. Some true, many false (as is the nature with people’s online self).

It will also play into the current court case where the young adult with the AI friend commit suicide. My VC/ psychologist contact is as expert witness on that one. It’s a lot to process. also in any court system I believe.

Moral of the story: Delete ALL your reviews and posts on social media and news sites NOW!

Better yet...don't put posts and reviews out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

His manifesto does not say this. He talked about his mom’s and his treatment being denied by UHC.

Someone found his Reddit posts about wanting the spine surgery and the doctor wouldn’t do it. His mom had the money to pay for whatever treatment she needed, insurance or not- I cannot imagine she went without anything she deemed she needed. No way UHC forced limits to her care she couldn’t have over ridden herself and payed for

You really do not know what she could or could not afford. You have zero idea about their life. It’s pretty clear she was going through a lot of health problems from his manifesto. He had back surgery and his sister is a doctor.

They own MULTIPLE country clubs and assisted living facilities plus had the finances for cover expensive private school and Ivy college for perhaps multiple kids. I’m sure they could scrounge up some money for her meds and treatment. They were not limited to what UHC would provide.

Truth. One kid attended Vandy and med school. Another is an artist. Expensive lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Vigiliantism is un-American.

Apparently it is very American - we’re about to see Trump pardon the January 6th folks so here we are.

Exactly. People here who are talking about his background and debating his back pain issues are not getting the bigger picture, which is the support Luigi has among the non DCUM population. This has parallels to the OJ trial and acquittal.

Eh the more people find out about the the less relatable he will be. He looks like a person born with a silver spoon in his mouth who had a tantrum when life finally gave him lemons. People will want to see his comeuppance once they know who he really was.

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Anonymous wrote:His mother, family members, or friends likely recognized him and possibly notified NYPD or the FBI, but that information was not released to the public. That wouldn't necessarily help law enforcement find him.

They specifically said that nobody had called in with his name.

I really think there was disbelief that their friend, their son, their relative was the shooter. They probably thought it was funny that the shooter look like their friend.

Wow.

Bet they had already lawyered up and screen grabbed all his socials.

His social in the form of “ X “ was briefly reinstated by one Elon Musk yesterday.

Know what jumps out at you? His book list.

It’s mostly nonfiction concerning PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOMS.

Plus the Dr Suess book, The Lorax.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

We the public do not know if he got surgery or not, if he recovered or not, if he paid off his part of his care or not
.
We know nothing. Young adults posting online to friends or strangers is 80% BS and posturing.

This will be a fascinating case in that the 26 yo left BS and true social media posts and emails and reviews everywhere. Some true, many false (as is the nature with people’s online self).

It will also play into the current court case where the young adult with the AI friend commit suicide. My VC/ psychologist contact is as expert witness on that one. It’s a lot to process. also in any court system I believe.

Moral of the story: Delete ALL your reviews and posts on social media and news sites NOW!

Better yet...don't put posts and reviews out there.

I’m 40s and stopped

I did a name search of myself when I moved states since my new neighborhood is so nosy and talkative they were bringing up all sorts of topics when speaking to em.

Sure enough- my TripAdvisor reviews, my Facebook comments in Caitlyn clark, my politics posts in washington post (less traceable), my advice to friend or strangers on social media - all linked to one of my emails which is linked to other personal email accounts.

It was hilarious! I spent two hours deleting five years of what I could find.