UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of disbelief- ppl think it’s a setup:
https://x.com/lawyerleew/status/1866607817534173479?s=46

Lawyer Lee is in it for the clicks and YouTube revenue.

He’s pushing his narrative hard:
I have a great connection with my new client!

I would be honored to rep him in a Pa and a NY trial!

I will speak with his parents soon about how well it’s going.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mangione is no better than the Unabomber or the Columbine killers. An oversized sense of moral superiority, leading to vigilantism.

Correct

He got laid off and something about back pain.

Billions of people have lived through both of those and more and not murdered anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vigiliantism is un-American.

Apparently it is very American - we’re about to see Trump pardon the January 6th folks so here we are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Luigi hired an Altoona, PA-based attorney, Tom Dickey. Did he just pull out the yellow pages at the local jail? I hope this lawyer is good.

I saw that. And the attorney made a statement along the lines of “I have seen no evidence that leads me to believe they have the right man.”

Um….ok. Good luck talking through that one.

Stall tactics and he hope a cop somewhere screwed something up and it gets dismissed.

Ironically, anti capitalist and noble Do Gooder by Killing Luigi has landed himself in the most F’s lying and twisted circus he could imagine: USA litigation cases.

Lies and muck abound.

Gaslighting and false accusations galore.

Technicalities and rights over Morals and ethics.

It will be a show for the masses. Suck down millions of dollars and time. The outcome is known: he’s guilty as F, but rolling the dice on a big Horse & Pony show is the strategy. And sometimes it works, due to the above (muck, lies, denials, technicalities).

Media plays a huge role in the muck as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

We the public do not know if he got surgery or not, if he recovered or not, if he paid off his part of his care or not
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We know nothing. Young adults posting online to friends or strangers is 80% BS and posturing.

This will be a fascinating case in that the 26 yo left BS and true social media posts and emails and reviews everywhere. Some true, many false (as is the nature with people’s online self).

It will also play into the current court case where the young adult with the AI friend commit suicide. My VC/ psychologist contact is as expert witness on that one. It’s a lot to process. also in any court system I believe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

I was referring to his supporters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

His manifesto does not say this. He talked about his mom’s and his treatment being denied by UHC.

His note- not a manifesto- does not say either of the above. That’s Fake News. Drop it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tragic insurance stories happen but they didn’t happen to this guy-his mental illness caused violent and angry ruminations in response to unpleasant but not unusual things many (including many in this thread) have faced without resorting to murder.

Correct

Shapiro was spot on.

Congrats to Atoona public and police.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think his mother knew it was him? I mean, she probably couldn’t quite bring herself to believe it, but a little nagging feeling ?

Probably. He’d gone missing/become estranged, and when the full facial pics came out, you’ve got to think she recognized him.

What about his father? Are we only blaming the mom when Luigi has a dad, two siblings, around 30 cousins and 16-20 aunts and uncles?

Lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

His manifesto does not say this. He talked about his mom’s and his treatment being denied by UHC.

Someone found his Reddit posts about wanting the spine surgery and the doctor wouldn’t do it. His mom had the money to pay for whatever treatment she needed, insurance or not- I cannot imagine she went without anything she deemed she needed. No way UHC forced limits to her care she couldn’t have over ridden herself and payed for

Link? The other manifesto was fake and I haven’t seen links to any Reddit posts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His mother, family members, or friends likely recognized him and possibly notified NYPD or the FBI, but that information was not released to the public. That wouldn't necessarily help law enforcement find him.

They specifically said that nobody had called in with his name.

I really think there was disbelief that their friend, their son, their relative was the shooter. They probably thought it was funny that the shooter look like their friend.

Wow.

Bet they had already lawyered up and screen grabbed all his socials.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Luigi hired an Altoona, PA-based attorney, Tom Dickey. Did he just pull out the yellow pages at the local jail? I hope this lawyer is good.

Was wondering the same. You’d think he could have his pick of lawyers for this case.

He probably hired the local attorney to handle the local issues: extradition and bond hearing. This does not mean he can’t hire another lawyer once he is extradited to NY (which he is fighting but he will eventually be sent). The Altoona lawyer apparently has handled high profile cases (including death penalty ones) and is well regarded. This lawyer may have been assigned to him or he could have gone to him to offer his services or his parents may have hired him.

His parents probably hired the lawyer.

Mr Ivy League was not smart to wear the mask in Altoona. He looked exactly like the many photos released of him.

Should have plucked or thinned his eyebrows and stayed on the bus to Canada or Mexico with his $8k and gun

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mangione is no better than the Unabomber or the Columbine killers. An oversized sense of moral superiority, leading to vigilantism.

Correct

He got laid off and something about back pain.

Billions of people have lived through both of those and more and not murdered anyone.

Yes, exactly!

Finally the voices of sanity and reason are emerging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

His manifesto does not say this. He talked about his mom’s and his treatment being denied by UHC.

Someone found his Reddit posts about wanting the spine surgery and the doctor wouldn’t do it. His mom had the money to pay for whatever treatment she needed, insurance or not- I cannot imagine she went without anything she deemed she needed. No way UHC forced limits to her care she couldn’t have over ridden herself and payed for

Are his parents divorced and she lives in another state?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vigiliantism is un-American.

Apparently it is very American - we’re about to see Trump pardon the January 6th folks so here we are.

Exactly. People here who are talking about his background and debating his back pain issues are not getting the bigger picture, which is the support Luigi has among the non DCUM population. This has parallels to the OJ trial and acquittal.