UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:His mother, family members, or friends likely recognized him and possibly notified NYPD or the FBI, but that information was not released to the public. That wouldn't necessarily help law enforcement find him.

They specifically said that nobody had called in with his name.

I really think there was disbelief that their friend, their son, their relative was the shooter. They probably thought it was funny that the shooter look like their friend.

Wow.

Bet they had already lawyered up and screen grabbed all his socials.

His social in the form of “ X “ was briefly reinstated by one Elon Musk yesterday.

Know what jumps out at you? His book list.

It’s mostly nonfiction concerning PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOMS.

Plus the Dr Suess book, The Lorax.

He is 26 years old, but his parents still reported him “missing” to police back in November. Several of his friends reported Luigi stopped communicating in September.

A mental health crisis was suffered by Luigi in the September - November time frame.

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Anonymous wrote:His mother, family members, or friends likely recognized him and possibly notified NYPD or the FBI, but that information was not released to the public. That wouldn't necessarily help law enforcement find him.

They specifically said that nobody had called in with his name.

I really think there was disbelief that their friend, their son, their relative was the shooter. They probably thought it was funny that the shooter look like their friend.

Wow.

Bet they had already lawyered up and screen grabbed all his socials.

His social in the form of “ X “ was briefly reinstated by one Elon Musk yesterday.

Know what jumps out at you? His book list.

It’s mostly nonfiction concerning PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOMS.

Plus the Dr Suess book, The Lorax.

He is 26 years old, but his parents still reported him “missing” to police back in November. Several of his friends reported Luigi stopped communicating in September.

A mental health crisis was suffered by Luigi in the September - November time frame.

Wasn’t he in Hawaii for part of that time?

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If he was upset about his mother’s treatment, why did he cut off contact leaving her to file a missing person report?

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Anonymous wrote:If he was upset about his mother’s treatment, why did he cut off contact leaving her to file a missing person report?

THE MANIFESTO ABOUT HIS MOTHER IS A FAKE.

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Anonymous wrote:Vigiliantism is un-American.

Apparently it is very American - we’re about to see Trump pardon the January 6th folks so here we are.

Exactly. People here who are talking about his background and debating his back pain issues are not getting the bigger picture, which is the support Luigi has among the non DCUM population. This has parallels to the OJ trial and acquittal.

Eh the more people find out about the the less relatable he will be. He looks like a person born with a silver spoon in his mouth who had a tantrum when life finally gave him lemons. People will want to see his comeuppance once they know who he really was.

This is your perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:If he was upset about his mother’s treatment, why did he cut off contact leaving her to file a missing person report?

I guess he thought all that worry and anxiety on his behalf would be good for her health.

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Anonymous wrote:Vigiliantism is un-American.

Apparently it is very American - we’re about to see Trump pardon the January 6th folks so here we are.

Exactly. People here who are talking about his background and debating his back pain issues are not getting the bigger picture, which is the support Luigi has among the non DCUM population. This has parallels to the OJ trial and acquittal.

Eh the more people find out about the the less relatable he will be. He looks like a person born with a silver spoon in his mouth who had a tantrum when life finally gave him lemons. People will want to see his comeuppance once they know who he really was.

This is your perspective.

I’m glad your heroes are man children who have deadly tantrums because they can’t get laid or keep a job.

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Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

His manifesto does not say this. He talked about his mom’s and his treatment being denied by UHC.

Someone found his Reddit posts about wanting the spine surgery and the doctor wouldn’t do it. His mom had the money to pay for whatever treatment she needed, insurance or not- I cannot imagine she went without anything she deemed she needed. No way UHC forced limits to her care she couldn’t have over ridden herself and payed for

You really do not know what she could or could not afford. You have zero idea about their life. It’s pretty clear she was going through a lot of health problems from his manifesto. He had back surgery and his sister is a doctor.

They own MULTIPLE country clubs and assisted living facilities plus had the finances for cover expensive private school and Ivy college for perhaps multiple kids. I’m sure they could scrounge up some money for her meds and treatment. They were not limited to what UHC would provide.

Truth. One kid attended Vandy and med school. Another is an artist. Expensive lives.

They may have money on paper but sometimes assets aren’t liquid. I don’t know their situation, nor do you.

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is there is a whole lot of untreated mental illness in the pretty package of a wealthy and attractive family. I would not be surprised if he showed signs of significant mental illness prior. Yes, it's hard to find the right help, but extreme wealth helps. mom could afford to go out of pocket for her health issues and his surgery. There were definitely issues there if they or the father or whoever wasn't willing to just throw some of their own money at this and even sue later rather than delay treatment. Instead this got dragged out and you have an unstable ticking time bomb hearing mom can't get treatment yet and wondering about the cost of his surgery. Money is a buffer. Use it.

I really don’t think this was a money issue. They could have afforded any treatment out of pocket. My theory is someone had an undesirable outcome from surgery/treatments and then the blame game started. Medicine and surgery can’t fix everything.

Ugh. If true this is so self centered.

Was he going to target his surgeon next?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Vigiliantism is un-American.

Apparently it is very American - we’re about to see Trump pardon the January 6th folks so here we are.

Exactly. People here who are talking about his background and debating his back pain issues are not getting the bigger picture, which is the support Luigi has among the non DCUM population. This has parallels to the OJ trial and acquittal.

Eh the more people find out about the the less relatable he will be. He looks like a person born with a silver spoon in his mouth who had a tantrum when life finally gave him lemons. People will want to see his comeuppance once they know who he really was.

I don’t think so because this isn’t a case where the victim is sympathetic.

If he shot up a playground, sure we’d all want blood. But even if this is a spoiled kid, a broken clock is right twice a day.

I’m not going to be protesting in the streets for him to go free, but if he gets off on a technicality or gets mental health treatment instead that would also be fine with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906

Yeah. Mangione was a member of the underclass. /s

But even the wealthy get f***ed by insurance companies. We have a HHI but had a huge problem with an insurance company. I completely understand Mangione’s rage. I have felt it (still do from time to time) but obviously I didn’t go shoot the CEO of Aetna. I was literally running the cost of suing Aetna against the cost of paying for a procedure out of pocket. Suing a large insurance company is super expensive because they have a team of lawyers whereas I would probably be penniless from hiring one lawyer to sue. I don’t think most people understand how expensive a lawsuit is and how draining emotionally and financially it would be. You may win coverage but you will spend everything in lawyer fees.

But that doesn’t sound like what even happened to him. He wanted a particular spinal surgery and the doctor refused to do it. Seems like it wasn’t indicated, wouldn’t help, risk didn’t out weigh the benefits, etc. It wasn’t even a matter of insurance. But this stuff happens ALL the time. People think they need a lot of things that they really don’t. And him being as “smart” of course thinks he knows better than the doctors and it’s all a conspiracy

His manifesto does not say this. He talked about his mom’s and his treatment being denied by UHC.

Someone found his Reddit posts about wanting the spine surgery and the doctor wouldn’t do it. His mom had the money to pay for whatever treatment she needed, insurance or not- I cannot imagine she went without anything she deemed she needed. No way UHC forced limits to her care she couldn’t have over ridden herself and payed for

You really do not know what she could or could not afford. You have zero idea about their life. It’s pretty clear she was going through a lot of health problems from his manifesto. He had back surgery and his sister is a doctor.

They own MULTIPLE country clubs and assisted living facilities plus had the finances for cover expensive private school and Ivy college for perhaps multiple kids. I’m sure they could scrounge up some money for her meds and treatment. They were not limited to what UHC would provide.

Truth. One kid attended Vandy and med school. Another is an artist. Expensive lives.

They may have money on paper but sometimes assets aren’t liquid. I don’t know their situation, nor do you.

His BIL (married to sister) is a DOCTOR. His family is so entangled in health care.
They had a HUGE indian wedding in California.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vigiliantism is un-American.

Apparently it is very American - we’re about to see Trump pardon the January 6th folks so here we are.

Exactly. People here who are talking about his background and debating his back pain issues are not getting the bigger picture, which is the support Luigi has among the non DCUM population. This has parallels to the OJ trial and acquittal.

Eh the more people find out about the the less relatable he will be. He looks like a person born with a silver spoon in his mouth who had a tantrum when life finally gave him lemons. People will want to see his comeuppance once they know who he really was.

I don’t think so because this isn’t a case where the victim is sympathetic.

If he shot up a playground, sure we’d all want blood. But even if this is a spoiled kid, a broken clock is right twice a day.

I’m not going to be protesting in the streets for him to go free, but if he gets off on a technicality or gets mental health treatment instead that would also be fine with me.

Trump is hinting at a pardon.

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I am completely disgusted with insurance companies AND with this violent brat.

Also, what’s missing from the discourse about this is that some insurance denials (many!) are because of predatory or fraudulent practices on the part of insurance companies but plenty would happen in any system simply because of finite resources-see nhs stories!

denials and reviews are always going to be part of healthcare even if we suddenly had mother Teresa at the helm of UHC.

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Mangione should be prosecuted.
Health insurance companies should become less evil.
Americans should rise up against for profit health insurance or demand single payer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vigiliantism is un-American.

Apparently it is very American - we’re about to see Trump pardon the January 6th folks so here we are.

Exactly. People here who are talking about his background and debating his back pain issues are not getting the bigger picture, which is the support Luigi has among the non DCUM population. This has parallels to the OJ trial and acquittal.

Eh the more people find out about the the less relatable he will be. He looks like a person born with a silver spoon in his mouth who had a tantrum when life finally gave him lemons. People will want to see his comeuppance once they know who he really was.

I don’t think so because this isn’t a case where the victim is sympathetic.

If he shot up a playground, sure we’d all want blood. But even if this is a spoiled kid, a broken clock is right twice a day.

I’m not going to be protesting in the streets for him to go free, but if he gets off on a technicality or gets mental health treatment instead that would also be fine with me.

Trump is hinting at a pardon.

Then they could go have lunch together at the Altoona McDonalds