Superbowl halftime - scantily dressed women and very covered up men

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Anonymous wrote:These PPs are basically telling her sons that women don’t have choices about their bodies—I’m sure they’re pro-lifers too.


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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.

Out of the mouths of babes.






This was my exact thought! As a young person, I went to many punk shows and the girls who crowd surfed got groped while the girls who jumped in the mosh pit got punched.


Are you guys so stupid that you think the "crowd" was just random people. They were part of the show. Holy Camole!




My thought was that I hope the "crowd" were paid performers. I know what can and does happen to girls and women. I also had the thought that Shakira could've been groped. Not because of what she is wearing or because she was body surfing, but because there are disgusting, rapey people in this world. The fact that the thought even occurred to some of us is not a sign of stupidity but, rather, a sad reality of how girls and women are viewed and treated.
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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.



You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.


Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.


Yep, agree with you here.


She is raising a Brock Turner so no... no family values.


Curious how you made the leap from recognizing inappropriate sexual content to raising a Brock Turner. Care to elaborate on this mental leap? Can’t wait to hear what you come up with.


Dp but I’ll make the leap since you are trying to play dumb and confused. If you cannot teach your son not to grope women or if he is associating that being groped is determined by what a woman wears that’s a problem. If your son believes men will automatically grope a woman for what she is wearing, then the male figures aren’t doing much to lead by example. Women can wear whatever they want. Performers can wear any costume they want to perform in. Men do not have the right to touch a woman no matter what she is wearing or if she is passed out (ie Brock Turner). How many people want to blame a woman for getting raped bc of what she is wearing. Nope nope nope. Teach your sons better.


So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped?

I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly!

Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is.

For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs -
That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing.

In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud.
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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.



You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.


Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.


Yep, agree with you here.


She is raising a Brock Turner so no... no family values.


Curious how you made the leap from recognizing inappropriate sexual content to raising a Brock Turner. Care to elaborate on this mental leap? Can’t wait to hear what you come up with.


Dp but I’ll make the leap since you are trying to play dumb and confused. If you cannot teach your son not to grope women or if he is associating that being groped is determined by what a woman wears that’s a problem. If your son believes men will automatically grope a woman for what she is wearing, then the male figures aren’t doing much to lead by example. Women can wear whatever they want. Performers can wear any costume they want to perform in. Men do not have the right to touch a woman no matter what she is wearing or if she is passed out (ie Brock Turner). How many people want to blame a woman for getting raped bc of what she is wearing. Nope nope nope. Teach your sons better.


So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped?

I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly!

Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is.

For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs -
That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing.

In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud.


I’m sure this is exactly what Brock Turner’s mother said as well. I’m sure they are proud of their son too.
Anonymous
I thought it was kind of boring. Both artists were very good, but it was the same thing over and over.
Anonymous
Shakiras tongue gesture is an a Lebanese tradition a ululation. You do it when you celebrate! Maluma pointing at Jlos ass is just that. Its a hip hop thing he's not gesturing a fingering.
Their costumes are pretty typical Carnavales costume which is starting soon.
Maybe this was too much culture for you people. I watched it a few more times I'm trying to find the exploitation of the situation. I can't. Sorry not sorry
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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.

Out of the mouths of babes.






This was my exact thought! As a young person, I went to many punk shows and the girls who crowd surfed got groped while the girls who jumped in the mosh pit got punched.


Are you guys so stupid that you think the "crowd" was just random people. They were part of the show. Holy Camole!




My thought was that I hope the "crowd" were paid performers. I know what can and does happen to girls and women. I also had the thought that Shakira could've been groped. Not because of what she is wearing or because she was body surfing, but because there are disgusting, rapey people in this world. The fact that the thought even occurred to some of us is not a sign of stupidity but, rather, a sad reality of how girls and women are viewed and treated.


If you think she should not body surf to avoid being groped there is a problem. You should think, I hope they have security that can catch somebody if a disgusting rapist is in the crowd.
Anonymous
Enjoyable, but too much Latina dancing for my tastes. Would have preferred on of the artist to be from a different genre.
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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.



You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.


Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.


Yep, agree with you here.


She is raising a Brock Turner so no... no family values.


Curious how you made the leap from recognizing inappropriate sexual content to raising a Brock Turner. Care to elaborate on this mental leap? Can’t wait to hear what you come up with.


Dp but I’ll make the leap since you are trying to play dumb and confused. If you cannot teach your son not to grope women or if he is associating that being groped is determined by what a woman wears that’s a problem. If your son believes men will automatically grope a woman for what she is wearing, then the male figures aren’t doing much to lead by example. Women can wear whatever they want. Performers can wear any costume they want to perform in. Men do not have the right to touch a woman no matter what she is wearing or if she is passed out (ie Brock Turner). How many people want to blame a woman for getting raped bc of what she is wearing. Nope nope nope. Teach your sons better.


So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped?

I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly!

Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is.

For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs -
That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing.

In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud.


If you’re judging these women as lesser bc of what they’re wearing, you’re sending that same message to your son, whether intentional or not. If he later thinks these women are slutty or deserving of negative attention, he may be more likely to treat them accordingly. There’s no getting away from that.
Anonymous
Loved the show, except for J Lo's political stunt. I am so sick of all the politics 24-7 that I didn't need this shoved in my face.
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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.



You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.


Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.


Yep, agree with you here.


She is raising a Brock Turner so no... no family values.


Curious how you made the leap from recognizing inappropriate sexual content to raising a Brock Turner. Care to elaborate on this mental leap? Can’t wait to hear what you come up with.


Dp but I’ll make the leap since you are trying to play dumb and confused. If you cannot teach your son not to grope women or if he is associating that being groped is determined by what a woman wears that’s a problem. If your son believes men will automatically grope a woman for what she is wearing, then the male figures aren’t doing much to lead by example. Women can wear whatever they want. Performers can wear any costume they want to perform in. Men do not have the right to touch a woman no matter what she is wearing or if she is passed out (ie Brock Turner). How many people want to blame a woman for getting raped bc of what she is wearing. Nope nope nope. Teach your sons better.


So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped?

I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly!

Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is.

For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs -
That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing.

In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud.


I get it your are old, you are teaching your kids that women are responsible for men's actions.

It's sad actually how much you think you are right.

But your way of thinking is why Brock Turners exist.
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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.



You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.


Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.


Yep, agree with you here.


She is raising a Brock Turner so no... no family values.


Curious how you made the leap from recognizing inappropriate sexual content to raising a Brock Turner. Care to elaborate on this mental leap? Can’t wait to hear what you come up with.


Dp but I’ll make the leap since you are trying to play dumb and confused. If you cannot teach your son not to grope women or if he is associating that being groped is determined by what a woman wears that’s a problem. If your son believes men will automatically grope a woman for what she is wearing, then the male figures aren’t doing much to lead by example. Women can wear whatever they want. Performers can wear any costume they want to perform in. Men do not have the right to touch a woman no matter what she is wearing or if she is passed out (ie Brock Turner). How many people want to blame a woman for getting raped bc of what she is wearing. Nope nope nope. Teach your sons better.


So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped?

I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly!

Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is.

For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs -
That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing.

In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud.


I’m sure this is exactly what Brock Turner’s mother said as well. I’m sure they are proud of their son too.


So you have nothing of substance to say? Just insults?
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Anonymous wrote:It's 2020, these are professional, talented, established women. So why do they need to perform in lingerie?

I got $5 says if they came out like this you'd say, "It's 2020, these are professional, talented, established women. So why do they need to cover their bodies?"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Shakira upstaged j.lo.


I love Shakira but J Lo owned that stage. Shakira should have worn something different from her dancers, she did t stand out enough. Also her hair was a disaster.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Enjoyable, but too much Latina dancing for my tastes. Would have preferred on of the artist to be from a different genre.


What is “Latina dancing”—you need to get out more.
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