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My thought was that I hope the "crowd" were paid performers. I know what can and does happen to girls and women. I also had the thought that Shakira could've been groped. Not because of what she is wearing or because she was body surfing, but because there are disgusting, rapey people in this world. The fact that the thought even occurred to some of us is not a sign of stupidity but, rather, a sad reality of how girls and women are viewed and treated. |
So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped? I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly! Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is. For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs - That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing. In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud. |
I’m sure this is exactly what Brock Turner’s mother said as well. I’m sure they are proud of their son too. |
| I thought it was kind of boring. Both artists were very good, but it was the same thing over and over. |
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Shakiras tongue gesture is an a Lebanese tradition a ululation. You do it when you celebrate! Maluma pointing at Jlos ass is just that. Its a hip hop thing he's not gesturing a fingering.
Their costumes are pretty typical Carnavales costume which is starting soon. Maybe this was too much culture for you people. I watched it a few more times I'm trying to find the exploitation of the situation. I can't. Sorry not sorry |
If you think she should not body surf to avoid being groped there is a problem. You should think, I hope they have security that can catch somebody if a disgusting rapist is in the crowd. |
| Enjoyable, but too much Latina dancing for my tastes. Would have preferred on of the artist to be from a different genre. |
If you’re judging these women as lesser bc of what they’re wearing, you’re sending that same message to your son, whether intentional or not. If he later thinks these women are slutty or deserving of negative attention, he may be more likely to treat them accordingly. There’s no getting away from that. |
| Loved the show, except for J Lo's political stunt. I am so sick of all the politics 24-7 that I didn't need this shoved in my face. |
I get it your are old, you are teaching your kids that women are responsible for men's actions. It's sad actually how much you think you are right. But your way of thinking is why Brock Turners exist. |
So you have nothing of substance to say? Just insults? |
I got $5 says if they came out like this you'd say, "It's 2020, these are professional, talented, established women. So why do they need to cover their bodies?"
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I love Shakira but J Lo owned that stage. Shakira should have worn something different from her dancers, she did t stand out enough. Also her hair was a disaster. |
What is “Latina dancing”—you need to get out more. |